New Key for $68 (remote) + $4.50(blade key) + shipping
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I'm curious. Do you have Keyless Go? If you do, then thats why you didnt get the chrome key. My suspicion is that once they run out of the Black KG keys they will start selling the Chrome KG keys for the older models that did not originally come with them. But that is just speculation.
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I'm curious. Do you have Keyless Go? If you do, then thats why you didnt get the chrome key. My suspicion is that once they run out of the Black KG keys they will start selling the Chrome KG keys for the older models that did not originally come with them. But that is just speculation.
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I understand the blade key is cut and cannot be recut, but I have a hard time digesting that the electronic key cannot be simply reprogrammed. Please put my question to rest. Any reply would be greatly appreciated.
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What are the part #'s of the remote and blade that you bought? I know that the dealership wont take your key back, but I would like to check into it for you. If you want to PM me your VIN# I can see if I can figure out why you got the black key.
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Seems like you know quite a bit about dealerships and how everything operates. Thanks for your help and imput in this thread so far. May I ask, is it true that the keys cannot be reprogrammed at all? Are the dealers resisting to send my key to get it reprogrammed b/c it's actually not possible (they claim b/c it's lazer cut) or because it's a hastle and they just dont' want to do it?
I understand the blade key is cut and cannot be recut, but I have a hard time digesting that the electronic key cannot be simply reprogrammed. Please put my question to rest. Any reply would be greatly appreciated.
I understand the blade key is cut and cannot be recut, but I have a hard time digesting that the electronic key cannot be simply reprogrammed. Please put my question to rest. Any reply would be greatly appreciated.
Does Mercedes have the capabilities to reprogram keys? I do not know. I dont see why they couldn't do it, but they don't.
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Something isn't right about that then. You should have gotten a chrome key. Mercedes ran out of the black key in the first part of this year.
What are the part #'s of the remote and blade that you bought? I know that the dealership wont take your key back, but I would like to check into it for you. If you want to PM me your VIN# I can see if I can figure out why you got the black key.
Brian
What are the part #'s of the remote and blade that you bought? I know that the dealership wont take your key back, but I would like to check into it for you. If you want to PM me your VIN# I can see if I can figure out why you got the black key.
Brian
A 169 766 18 06 9999. Order # was 92820.
Mailed from Fort Worth, TX to Rallye. I'll PM my VIN to you next.
And thank you much, for your help with this.
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Found the link - it was my own thread!!. Jeez, getting old is a b1tch. See the MOVIELA post near the bottom:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ight=smart+key
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Someone posted recently, I can't recall where, that the programming is a hardware, one time programming, not software programming. If I can reword it as I recall, there is a latice of circuits inside the key. When they program it, they send an electrical current which destroys the parts of the latice that are not part of the programming. Hence, that is why the key cannot be reprogrammed. I'm a software guy, not hardware, so I am sure I have dumbed this down to understand it myself. If you search "smart key" on here I am sure you will find the original posters explanation.
jim
Found the link - it was my own thread!!. Jeez, getting old is a b1tch. See the MOVIELA post near the bottom:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ight=smart+key
jim
Found the link - it was my own thread!!. Jeez, getting old is a b1tch. See the MOVIELA post near the bottom:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ight=smart+key
I will look into your situation on monday. That part # is not the standard smart key that was used. The part #'s for the black key is 203-766-62-06-9999 & 203-766-70-06-9999. MB alternated those #'s frequentley before they went to the chrome key.
Carry On,
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I should have realized this, but I didn't until I looked it up. Wagons have a different key associated with them because they dont have the 'trunk popper' button. The chrome key will work with it, and should cost the same amount, depending on the dealership. The extra button would just be useless.
The parts guy more than likely looked it up by VIN and ordered the key that came up in the parts catalog.
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I should have realized this, but I didn't until I looked it up. Wagons have a different key associated with them because they dont have the 'trunk popper' button. The chrome key will work with it, and should cost the same amount, depending on the dealership. The extra button would just be useless.
The parts guy more than likely looked it up by VIN and ordered the key that came up in the parts catalog.
The parts guy more than likely looked it up by VIN and ordered the key that came up in the parts catalog.
So, alls good. I had 1 key, now I have 3 keys. If I see a cheap chrome key on Ebay, I might pick it up and see if I can swap the housing, just for the fun of seeing if I can do it. I know the blade would be an issue (before I get flamed).
Thanks for your time in looking into this.
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On a similar topic, I just picked up my S600 recently (used '04 still under Factory Warranty). The car has KeyLess Go.
I received 3 sets of keys, but only one operates the KeyLess Go. The other 2 unlock the doors and will start the car, but not via wireless....
I'm guessing all 3 keys should operate similarly - or are they operating properly?
If the 2 need repair/reprogram, is this pretty easy for the dealer to accomodate?
Thanks!
I received 3 sets of keys, but only one operates the KeyLess Go. The other 2 unlock the doors and will start the car, but not via wireless....
I'm guessing all 3 keys should operate similarly - or are they operating properly?
If the 2 need repair/reprogram, is this pretty easy for the dealer to accomodate?
Thanks!
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On a similar topic, I just picked up my S600 recently (used '04 still under Factory Warranty). The car has KeyLess Go.
I received 3 sets of keys, but only one operates the KeyLess Go. The other 2 unlock the doors and will start the car, but not via wireless....
I'm guessing all 3 keys should operate similarly - or are they operating properly?
If the 2 need repair/reprogram, is this pretty easy for the dealer to accomodate?
Thanks!
I received 3 sets of keys, but only one operates the KeyLess Go. The other 2 unlock the doors and will start the car, but not via wireless....
I'm guessing all 3 keys should operate similarly - or are they operating properly?
If the 2 need repair/reprogram, is this pretty easy for the dealer to accomodate?
Thanks!
Brian
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If your car is still under warranty, I would set up an appointment at the dealer to bring the car in, along with the keys. They should warranty the 2 keys and get you 2 new keys. The new keys should be chrome. One of my co-workers just ordered a Keyless Go key for one of our customers. The chrome key came in today, instead of the black key that he ordered. I think it was for an '03 E-Class.
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Could you clarify a little bit?
Unless I misunderstood you, in the post that's just before the this one in reference, you mentioned that he should get a replacement chrome key for his 04'. And now you're stating that he should get a black one.
Do you mean to say that the 04' should have come with black keys when they're first sold?
Also, under what circumstance can a dealership justify replacing the keys under warranty?
Thanks!
Jon
Unless I misunderstood you, in the post that's just before the this one in reference, you mentioned that he should get a replacement chrome key for his 04'. And now you're stating that he should get a black one.
Do you mean to say that the 04' should have come with black keys when they're first sold?
Also, under what circumstance can a dealership justify replacing the keys under warranty?
Thanks!
Jon
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Could you clarify a little bit?
Unless I misunderstood you, in the post that's just before the this one in reference, you mentioned that he should get a replacement chrome key for his 04'. And now you're stating that he should get a black one.
Do you mean to say that the 04' should have come with black keys when they're first sold?
Also, under what circumstance can a dealership justify replacing the keys under warranty?
Thanks!
Jon
Unless I misunderstood you, in the post that's just before the this one in reference, you mentioned that he should get a replacement chrome key for his 04'. And now you're stating that he should get a black one.
Do you mean to say that the 04' should have come with black keys when they're first sold?
Also, under what circumstance can a dealership justify replacing the keys under warranty?
Thanks!
Jon
Yes, The '04's came with the black key originally. When I wrote that post earlier, I was thinking that the E-Class Keyless Go key would be the same as the S-Class KG key. But, I was wrong. There is something different internally about the two.
As long as the car is still under warranty, and there is something wrong with key. It will be covered under warranty. Such problems as the key not communicating with the car, or cracked buttons are covered under warranty
Brian
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Thank you very much for the clarification!
One more question please. Does it have to be the standard 4 year 50k mi warranty for key replacement? Or does Starmark warranty work as well?
Jon
One more question please. Does it have to be the standard 4 year 50k mi warranty for key replacement? Or does Starmark warranty work as well?
Jon
Yes, The '04's came with the black key originally. When I wrote that post earlier, I was thinking that the E-Class Keyless Go key would be the same as the S-Class KG key. But, I was wrong. There is something different internally about the two.
As long as the car is still under warranty, and there is something wrong with key. It will be covered under warranty. Such problems as the key not communicating with the car, or cracked buttons are covered under warranty
Brian
As long as the car is still under warranty, and there is something wrong with key. It will be covered under warranty. Such problems as the key not communicating with the car, or cracked buttons are covered under warranty
Brian
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