Eaton

Find attached.

BenjaminKohl

Interesting, thanks!

BenzC400

I’ve been waiting for this. Thanks.

AnthonyWelker

Hi Eaton, any idea when these will be available to order?

Eaton

The order guide usually comes out when they are available to order.

MJP_43

Thanks Eaton!

I don't know where you find this info but it is MUCH appreciated. I am holding out for the CLE53 which will hopefully also launch in 2024, fingers crossed. When I get one I'll have to change my user name...

I'm off to a Mercedes Customer Loyalty event today in Huntington and this DOG has definitely given me some advance knowledge of what's going to be available.

Eaton

Any dealer will send if you ask nicely.
Glad you found it helpful! Here's some new info regarding the AMG models.

MJP_43

Thanks again. I speak a little German but had to use the translator for the technical terms.

449hp sounds healthy plus the 23 from the hybrid motor. But what they should really quote is Torque. I'm guessing that the electric motor will provide well over 150ft-lbs of torque right off idle. Torque moves cars, horsepower makes them go fast and that instantaneous extra torque will make all Mercedes mild hybrids very peppy off the line. Might improve mileage too since most engines use a lot of fuel to get the car moving. My C43 will get only about 18mpg in local stop-and-go but over 30mpg cruising on the highway.

The salesman, sorry Sales Consultant (SC), I spoke to today was very helpful and nice enough. He didn't have an ordering guide for the CLE53 yet. I will ask for it nicely when he does. But the online configurator is really what we need. It'll tell you what options go with which; i.e. "you must delete this package when ordering that package."

The SC felt that the AMG CLE's could lag by 6 months to a year. I hope we'll know by Jan 24.

BTW, the CLE configurator is on-line in Germany; https://www.mercedes-benz.de/passeng...E-KLASSE/COUPE. Alas only the CLE300.

splunge

Given that the CLE450 will have 375 hp and 369 torque , if the 53 has 449 hp I'm guessing the torque should be a similar number ,unless. the extra hp is obtained by going to higher revs . We should have all the details soon ; very exciting !! My interest is the Canadian cabriolet ,but presumably these numbers will be the same .

dbrown167

You can build a CLE on the UK site (https://www.mercedes-benz.co.uk)

splunge

I thank you for the heads up . I'm hoping the US/Canada build site is more flexible . I couldn't even combine a red exterior with a brown interior ! Is the UK build usually that restricted ?

dbrown167

the color combinations available are on the DOG listed previously as a PDF.

splunge

My point is It's disingenuous to advertise all the attractive options and then eliminate half of them by not allowing certain basic combinations , such as red with brown a very common combination .

MJP_43

My take is that MB is trying to save build costs by no longer offering the “have it your way” options. Predetermined color combinations reduces complexity (=cost to build) on the line.



Sad times when this happens. MB’s dilemma, maybe with a little arrogance thrown in:



MB: Zis ist Mercedes Benz und vee bilt ze finest automobiles in za verld.

Ant, vee haff chosen zee colour compinations zat vill be available, und you vill like it!



Me: Well, I might buy the car but I won’t like it!

W205C43PFL

Unfortunately, a lot of the newer MBs are leased instead of purchased, they also seems to want to keep the options pretty mainstream so they can sell it after the customer returns the leased vehicle. For context, 85% of MB Canada market vehicles are leased. I will be the minority though when the CLE comes out (hopefully not a lot of first model year issues), will be purchasing.

MJP_43

So we're all "victims of circumstance", controlled, and not having our own choice for someone else's profit...

If this is true, that resale determines my buying choices, I'm going to have a meltdown and buy a f*&k!ng Kia.

W205C43PFL

Well, the statistics I provided were from Canada, I am not sure if it is true for Europe or the rest of North America for example. Honestly it is a double-edge sword, dealerships in USA complained about too many vehicles and too many options then MB introduced those annoying trim lines. Even on the flagship S-Class... which I mean for some reason you spend all that money you can only buy what MBUSA wants you to buy and not what you want to buy. Sigh. Some people would want certain options when they choose pinnacle but is only available on executive line, that sort of thing. I think Burmester 4D was one of them.

MJP_43

I hope that all option combinations will be wide open in the USofA, but who knows.

Henry Ford famously said, "You can have any color you want, as long as it's Black." Is this where we're heading???

And, what does this say about MB demographics? Are they going to base their whole business model on "plain vanilla" second-hand buyers?

Unfortunately, the USofA accounted for less than MB 20% of sales in 2022 (I just looked it up, https://www.statista.com/statistics/...rious-markets/). We Americans have NO leverage...buy what MB is offering, und you vil like it!

And, yes, I am writing this to hopefully influence MB. Someone in Stuttgart is surely monitoring this forum. But what leverage do we have? If they give the US options and not other markets, maybe the Europeans and Chinese will be pissed off. We can't have that now can we.

splunge

I seem to remember seeing MB models in the past where the European models were more restricted in combinations than the equivalent in N America . Maybe optimistic thinking , but also I'll be purchasing the 53 cabriolet which being a sub group of a sub group may be available with different and more individual options . These first world problems are going to have to be dealt with !!

W205C43PFL

Unfortunately, looks like it is a repeat of history after all.... hopefully it isn't the case for real. Since you are talking about the latter two, I did read that if it wasn't for them MB wouldn't had created a new gen E-Class, not sure how true is that? That means, if the latter two markets finally stopped buying sedans and only buy SUVs, that will mean be wouldn't had got a new generation E-Class, yikes.

Edited to Add: Americans and the entire North America as a whole likes SUVs so sedan sales account for a very small amount of market share, unfortunately.

BenjaminKohl

UNOFFICIAL: CLE300 4Matic pricing starting at $56,500.

BenjaminKohl

Pricing now official, CLE300 at $56,500, CLE450 at $65,650. Pricing not including $1,150 for destination and the pinnacle trim adds $2,600.

https://media.mbusa.com/releases/rel...-new-cle-coupe

BenjaminKohl

Cars are released for sale now

MJP_43

Thank's for the update. The Great News continues to come in, seems like the CLE release is ahead of schedule from what I've been reading.

I'm thinking that the CLE's will make a real splash in the showrooms, there's no other model quite like it. It's the only real NEW 2-door coupe (Roadsters are still only '23's).

It makes nice executive transportation for two where both sets of golf clubs fit in the trunk - a must have for me.

Now, when do y'all think the CLE53"s will officially go on sale?

BenjaminKohl

It would be amazing to see them by May. I'm not holding my breath, but a number of recent releases have been far better then the disasters that were the 223 S, 206 C, and 206 C43. Good work mbusa.