Alignment Specs are in after Camber kit install - do these seem right?
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Alignment Specs are in after Camber kit install - do these seem right?
After installing a K-Mac front camber kit, they aligned my car and here are the specs. Why are the 2 front caster settings so different and the rear camber as well?
Left Front
Camber -1.27’
Caster 4.42’
Toe 0.13’
Right Front
Camber -1.34’
Caster 4.17’
Toe 0.11’
Total Toe 0.24’
Left Rear
Camber -1.28’
Toe -0.16’
Right Rear
Camber -1.40
Toe 0.11’
Total Toe 0.27’
Also, the car is lowered on HR springs and Bilstein shocks. It was sitting on the lift for one week before it was taken on the alignment rack. Do the springs have to settle back down before getting it aligned??
Left Front
Camber -1.27’
Caster 4.42’
Toe 0.13’
Right Front
Camber -1.34’
Caster 4.17’
Toe 0.11’
Total Toe 0.24’
Left Rear
Camber -1.28’
Toe -0.16’
Right Rear
Camber -1.40
Toe 0.11’
Total Toe 0.27’
Also, the car is lowered on HR springs and Bilstein shocks. It was sitting on the lift for one week before it was taken on the alignment rack. Do the springs have to settle back down before getting it aligned??
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
How much and where did u get the k-mac camber kit?
www.k-mac.com.au
They have the front and rear camber kits for the car. They are kinda pricey, but considering how much tires cost and how quickly I go through them becasue of negative camber, it was worth it.
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
www.k-mac.com.au
They have the front and rear camber kits for the car. They are kinda pricey, but considering how much tires cost and how quickly I go through them becasue of negative camber, it was worth it.
They have the front and rear camber kits for the car. They are kinda pricey, but considering how much tires cost and how quickly I go through them becasue of negative camber, it was worth it.
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I get about 10-14k miles out of my tires. Im lowered on eibachs and my specs are as follows... front camber left@ -2.0 right@ -1.9
rear camber left@ -1.4 right@ -1.2
front toe @ .125
I cast alot of blame on fast tire wear more on spirited driving and the fact that a staggered setup has less rotating abilities than 4 rims w/ same specs.
Besides, i like trying new tires frequently anyways, otherwise i get bored.
rear camber left@ -1.4 right@ -1.2
front toe @ .125
I cast alot of blame on fast tire wear more on spirited driving and the fact that a staggered setup has less rotating abilities than 4 rims w/ same specs.
Besides, i like trying new tires frequently anyways, otherwise i get bored.
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Originally Posted by Tree Guy
I get about 10-14k miles out of my tires. Im lowered on eibachs and my specs are as follows... front camber left@ -2.0 right@ -1.9
rear camber left@ -1.4 right@ -1.2
front toe @ .125
I cast alot of blame on fast tire wear more on spirited driving and the fact that a staggered setup has less rotating abilities than 4 rims w/ same specs.
Besides, i like trying new tires frequently anyways, otherwise i get bored.
rear camber left@ -1.4 right@ -1.2
front toe @ .125
I cast alot of blame on fast tire wear more on spirited driving and the fact that a staggered setup has less rotating abilities than 4 rims w/ same specs.
Besides, i like trying new tires frequently anyways, otherwise i get bored.
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Originally Posted by mmgrad
how many miles do you get out of ur tires?
2K miles rear & 2K front with negative camber.
New set of the same tires after rear camber kit:
8K Rear 2K front again.
After installing the new front camber kit, I'm hoping for some more mileage.
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
My Bridgstone Potenza S03's:
2K miles rear & 2K front with negative camber.
New set of the same tires after rear camber kit:
8K Rear 2K front again.
After installing the new front camber kit, I'm hoping for some more mileage.
2K miles rear & 2K front with negative camber.
New set of the same tires after rear camber kit:
8K Rear 2K front again.
After installing the new front camber kit, I'm hoping for some more mileage.
you must be hardcore braking/burning out... no way in hell you can only get 2k from them
that's like.... almost one set of tires every oil change
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Originally Posted by myNAMESterry
list the last three tires you've tried and how your rate them from worst to best tire. thanks
Pirelli P7000 Supersport - Fun, medium stiffness sidewall, aggressive sidewall look and semi-aggressive tread. Road noise was higher than I wanted, and as usual, got noisier with wear. Got good mileage out of them and drove them hard. Overall, exceeded my expectations for the price.
Yokohama ES100 - Soft, cheap, good wet/dry traction, bad longevity. Got 'patchy' towards the last 50% of the tread. Will never by again.
Bridgestone Potenza S0-3's. By far, the best and most fun tires I have ever owned. Amazing wet/dry grip, stiff sidewall, aggressive design and sidewalls. However, terrible on snow (it's a summer tire) and the longevity short. Very soft tire, so if the camber is off, it will wear quickly. Also medium/high priced. But inspires confidence in the corners!
Pirelli PZero Nero - All season and marketed as Ultra high performance. Super quiet (they are new, so this might not stay) good grip dry, very good grip in the wet and expected grip in the snow. Soft sidewall, so nervous hard cornering, but overall so far, very comfortable and what I need right now.
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Originally Posted by myNAMESterry
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF NO F***ING WAY U GET ONLY 2,000 miles from the s03.. i know they are bad.. but not 2,000 MILES ONLY bad
you must be hardcore braking/burning out... no way in hell you can only get 2k from them
that's like.... almost one set of tires every oil change
you must be hardcore braking/burning out... no way in hell you can only get 2k from them
that's like.... almost one set of tires every oil change
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
Super sticky, super soft tire + really bad negative camber = 2K miles of inner edge tread wear. And yes, a donught now and then will get rid of the tread pretty quickly.
I've got at least 10,000 miles on front tires already... and I'm running Yoko AVS Sports, which is even softer then the S03s... treadwear rating for my tire is 180, and i think the S03 is like 220 or 280 (higher the better)...
oh, and my car is dropped about 2", so the camber is approx -2.5 all around...
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
Super sticky, super soft tire + really bad negative camber = 2K miles of inner edge tread wear. And yes, a donught now and then will get rid of the tread pretty quickly.
ordered tires from costco already ..s03 590$ shipping + tax included, mounted, road hazard protection plan for (2) 255/35/18.
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Originally Posted by mmgrad
god damn... you must be made of money to burn through ur tires so quickly...
I've got at least 10,000 miles on front tires already... and I'm running Yoko AVS Sports, which is even softer then the S03s... treadwear rating for my tire is 180, and i think the S03 is like 220 or 280 (higher the better)...
oh, and my car is dropped about 2", so the camber is approx -2.5 all around...
I've got at least 10,000 miles on front tires already... and I'm running Yoko AVS Sports, which is even softer then the S03s... treadwear rating for my tire is 180, and i think the S03 is like 220 or 280 (higher the better)...
oh, and my car is dropped about 2", so the camber is approx -2.5 all around...
NO, not made of money, my car steals it from me. I wanted to claim it as a dependant on my taxes!
Your camber in -2.5 all the way around AND you got 10K miles??? What the...well, mine was over -3.0 they said before them pulled them back in. It was crazy, but the fronts just ate up like there was no tomorrow. I took a trip to Chicago and back (300 miles) after I bought new fronts and noticed a difference in the inside edges!! Little secret though...eBay has some nice 'used' tires (S03's) for a 1/4 of the price, so replacing them wasn't all that bad.
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Originally Posted by myNAMESterry
that's amazing... i have s03's on with no drop and i already get only 13k from them... im running on threads in the rear and i took the car to work today :p
ordered tires from costco already ..s03 590$ shipping + tax included, mounted, road hazard protection plan for (2) 255/35/18.
ordered tires from costco already ..s03 590$ shipping + tax included, mounted, road hazard protection plan for (2) 255/35/18.
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
Costco! Nice... Tirerack.com quoted me $510.68 shipped to my door. But then mounted/balanced it comes out to the same...but you get the road hazard protection plan, so you got a deal! Enjoy them...I did!
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
$750 for front and rear camber kit for W208 according to Kmac website.
Yup, but that's the cost of a new set of tires too!
Eitherway, if you buy them, you can also use them and sell them when you sell your car for near what you have paid for them.
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Maybe I'm missing somethin....
but are the factory camber/crash bolts not enough for the front? My car is really low, and I don't have any trouble getting the front to spec....
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Originally Posted by allenjdmb
but are the factory camber/crash bolts not enough for the front? My car is really low, and I don't have any trouble getting the front to spec....
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In my opinion, too low...
see my frustrated post, "OK, springs again," below. H/R,Koni, 3F, 2R, 18 " Brabus V multipiece. Cabrio.
