Josh K

Just one part of my House of Power Type C-1 s/c kit. With it, I'll be putting out 370 rwhp. (this is only stage 1, folks) :0) More pics to come soon....

vraa

More pictures now plzkthx!
Man that looks really good! What kinda unit is it?

BklynBenz

when you getting it installed? thats the HoP joint right

Josh K

Install will start as soon as the rest of the parts come in and he finishes the install on the S55 that's in there right now.

Yep, that's the HoP system :0)))

vraa

What other parts are you waiting for? Intercoolor and tubing?

Josh K

Since it's not a positive displacement supercharger, no intercooler is needed at low boost levels. The stage 2 kit adds an aftercooler but I'm just doing stage 1 for now. I'm waiting for my hoses and for the ceramic and heat barrier coating on the piping

CHB

Very nice! Keep us updated

clkgeorge

Does it come with a new transmission?

3 bAn 2 PoW 0

when did vortech start making superchargers for mercedes? I thought they only made superchargers for jap and american cars?

-Greg

lowphat

Nothing like getting a delivery of shiny new power incereasing parts. Good luck with your install.

Josh K

Vortech doesn't "make superchargers for Mercedes" just like Autorotor or Eaton don't "make superchargers for Mercedes." Superchargers are universal application products, and tuners make kits for specific vehicle applications using different superchargers.

Kleemann doesn't make their own supercharger unit (they use Autorotor units, which are also used on Chevy's, trucks, Mustangs, etc. - a.k.a. "Whipplechargers")

AMG, HPS, GruppeM, Jackson Racing (for import compacts) don't make their own superchargers either (they use an Eaton unit which can also be found on trucks (F150 Lightning), american cars, japanese cars, etc.).

Vortech is just a different style of supercharger (Centrifugal instead of Roots) and is part of a kit developed by House of Power for application onto Mercedes cars.

Hopefully that clears it up - superchargers aren't made for a specific vehicle - they are universal products, and tuners develop kits for specific applications using them.

Example - Here's an Autorotor unit (what Kleemann uses) on a Chevy Dually:

Cory @ Kleemann

You're a little off base. Art Whipple USED to use autorotor units, however, has since switched to SRM units. Both are screw compressors, but the whipplecharger is NOT an autorotor.

KLEEMANN does not use off the shelf autorotor units. The rotor group is produced and assembled by Autorotor, however, it is by no means an off-the-shelf autorotor compressor.

Josh K

I never said that all tuners use off the shelf blowers. Some tuners enter agreements with the company and have certain specs (and logos) that they order them with, but it's no different from AMG using Bilstien shocks, Eibach sway bars, Eaton superchargers, or Saleen using Alcon brake calipers.

Perhaps I should have been more clear that the units aren't identical from application to application, but the point was that superchargers, be they roots or centrifugal, are pretty universal and it's tuners that make the kits for specific applications; there isn't a style or brand of supercharger that's only made for one particular car.

Cory @ Kleemann

I see your point, however, when you post a picture of an off the shelf autorotor and say "this is what kleemann uses", to me, it implies that anyone could call up Autorotor and order the compressor kleemann uses, when that's not true. Our rotor group is made by autorotor, but that is where the similarities end against the picture you posted. I just want to clarify that- I'm not trying to start a flame war here.

KLEEMANN was the FIRST company to integrate the intake manifold, kompressor and intercooler into one unit. AMG followed, as did GM and many of our competitors. There are those who lead, and many, many more that follow.

3 bAn 2 PoW 0

THanks for clearing things up josh!

-Greg

Josh K

Very very true :0) Just one more reason I'm opting for a centrifugal blower on my 208 :0)))

No prob ;0)

BrabusClK04

Ohhh, very nice. Question, who is doing your software, and where are you getting it installed. Looks great, cant wait to see the final product.

JamE55

Josh,

Very nice bro! When will your car be ready? How long is the install? Keep us poster!

Josh K

Keeping the stock software, and the install is being done at the House of Power in Huntington Beach.

dronellis

josh...any S/C for W209 mercedes?is there any website for HOP?thnx

BklynBenz

http://www.hopracing.com/

BrabusClK04

Hey Josh,

Ive been told and was told by people that had blown engineing running stock software that many problems occur in the near future. One of my buddies had a blown bmw and was using stock software at first, but later had many problems with. You think this might be an issue in the near future for the engine. Thanks for your input.

Josh K

This was something that was thought about in early testing, and Powerchips was originally going to do the software. But not only is sortware unnecessary because the fuel pressure can be tuned with the system, but the car actually made more horsepower and had better drivability when reverted to stock software. So far, the prototype car has upwards of 30k miles on the system with no problems whatsoever. I'm not one to spend money without doing the appropriate research. :0) If you have any concerns that I'm not adequately addressing, head over to the shop and talk to them, they'll be able to explain everything a thousand times better than I can.

Josh K

Yes. 202, 208, 209, 210, 220. I think there's a 203 one in the works, too.

BrabusClK04

Thanks for you input buddy.