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02-27-2002, 06:48 PM
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Does anyone know what the quickest and easiest way to get more HP out of the CLK 430. Most upgrades involve rippin out the computer, mailing it in and then they do what needs to be done and mail it back. Is there anything else that can be done besides this?
02-28-2002, 09:37 AM
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$80 and buy some K&N drop in filters
resulted in some real hp / torque on the 55 - don't see why it wouldn't on a 430
cheap to do and easy to install (20 minutes)
http://members.aol.com/clk55amg2001/Dyno
(pics, dyno results)
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cheap to do and easy to install (20 minutes)
http://members.aol.com/clk55amg2001/Dyno
(pics, dyno results)
shell
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clk55
03-01-2002, 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by twboy
Kleeman supercharger......thats' what I WANT TO GET !!!
But.....I dont really want to void my MB warranty since my car is only 5 months old right now.
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Kleeman supercharger......thats' what I WANT TO GET !!!
But.....I dont really want to void my MB warranty since my car is only 5 months old right now.
:p
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03-04-2002, 10:38 AM
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If you were to be the first to have engine problems in the 15 years that Kleemann has been in business, you would always have the option of installing your old engine cover back on your engine before you take it in to the dealer. Then your engine would look as if it has never been touched.
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03-05-2002, 05:05 PM
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You appear to be your own best audience- however I dont understand your humor. It boggles my mind how people with little or no practical knowledge of the KLEEMANN system can make such sweeping statements. The problems you speak of sound like issues you might have with a Honda Civic Roots compressor or some other half thought out hunk.
Does MBZ have to change spark plugs in its C230 Kompressor engine every month? Do you have to listen with one ear for detonation? NO you dont- why? Sound engineering- intercooling, proper fueling, low boost on and on.
Brain surgery is dangerous- do you expect every brain surgeon to have killed a few people trying to get it right?
Does MBZ have to change spark plugs in its C230 Kompressor engine every month? Do you have to listen with one ear for detonation? NO you dont- why? Sound engineering- intercooling, proper fueling, low boost on and on.
Brain surgery is dangerous- do you expect every brain surgeon to have killed a few people trying to get it right?
03-06-2002, 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by kingman18
and newbie, you dont necessarily NEED a kit for nitrous.
and newbie, you dont necessarily NEED a kit for nitrous.
03-06-2002, 09:27 PM
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boost and plugs
I read the post about having to switch out your plugs when running high boost. Might just be an Eclipse issue becuase it's not with the Nissan guys...
I can only think of two things as variables that maybe should be investigated - (1) correct gap of the electrode (2) right temperature sparkplug (sounds weird but turbo guys run different plugs than NA guys on the same engine)
just something to think about
shell
I can only think of two things as variables that maybe should be investigated - (1) correct gap of the electrode (2) right temperature sparkplug (sounds weird but turbo guys run different plugs than NA guys on the same engine)
just something to think about
shell
03-07-2002, 03:41 PM
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I drove a E 210 V6 with KLEEMANN compressor for 2 years.
The car was factory new when the compressor was installed and
I sold it with over 40.000 miles on the clock, still running on the same plugs.
So nobody needs to drive with spare plugs in a KLEEMANN.
The whole idea behind KLEEMANN, is that the car should drive
just as comfortable and relayable as a OE car, just a lot faster.
KLEEMANN transforms a heavy / slow luxus car into a everyday
race car.
KLEEMANN could easyly make more power, but then there will only all the problems you all are discoussing and are so afraid of.
The car was factory new when the compressor was installed and
I sold it with over 40.000 miles on the clock, still running on the same plugs.
So nobody needs to drive with spare plugs in a KLEEMANN.
The whole idea behind KLEEMANN, is that the car should drive
just as comfortable and relayable as a OE car, just a lot faster.
KLEEMANN transforms a heavy / slow luxus car into a everyday
race car.
KLEEMANN could easyly make more power, but then there will only all the problems you all are discoussing and are so afraid of.
03-07-2002, 03:47 PM
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I have just checked and the site is back up- some kind of server problem on our end. You can always go to the DENMARK homepage at:
http://www.kleemann.dk
These are the same homepages.
http://www.kleemann.dk
These are the same homepages.
03-07-2002, 06:03 PM
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2002 CLK 430 Coupe
After reading all the posts about supercharging, I felt it was time to chime in. A properly set up forced induction engine will not detonate, will not eat spark plugs and will start, idle and drive as normal - until you tip hard into the throttle. How and why can I say this? Because I used to own a supercharged car that I did all the work on myself (well, except for the ECU programming). I started with a bone stock HO 5.0 Mustang, added headers/exhaust, larger throttle body, higher ratio roller rockers (more valve lift), rear end girdle (to handle the extra torque of the blower), sub frame connectors (to strengthen the chassis) and relieved the upper intake manifold in preparation for the supercharger. Then I added a 7 lb. centrifugal supercharger and the woes began. It took an entire summer of fooling with this thing to get it all right. I had detonation, burned electrodes, surge, rough idle - you name it. The cure was a combination of a bypass valve, colder spark plugs (by two ranges), much higher rate injectors, adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and of course a re-programmed ECU. They guy that burned the EPROM for the ECU took about 7 tries before he got it to my satisfaction. He was good about it and kept sending me new ones (he in Texas, me in NY) and as long as I returned the others, I was only charged for one. The result was a car that started and ran just as it did before the mods. It would give me 28 mpg on the highway at 75 mph cruise and would run like an animal when I punched it.
Now, the Kleeman unit is more linear than a centrifugal blower, and has an intercooler which mine didn't, so the issue of the exhaust headers getting glowing hot after a hard run may not apply, however, no matter what the adibiatic efficiency of the blower setup, compressed air gets hot and raises the combustion temperature. Even the header manufactures will not guarantee their ceramic coatings because of the higher exhaust gas temperatures. All in all, it appears as though Kleeman has worked out all the bugs that I had to do on my own to get the engine to perform as it should, so your worries should be naught.
However, one final thought - increasing the output of any given engine beyond it's initial design criteria will shorten it's life. That is a given - period! But, what are we talking about in reality? 150K vs 200K???? Who cares!
Thanks for your time reading this. I have no plans to force feed my CLK430, just wanted to clear a few things up that have been floating around.
Now, the Kleeman unit is more linear than a centrifugal blower, and has an intercooler which mine didn't, so the issue of the exhaust headers getting glowing hot after a hard run may not apply, however, no matter what the adibiatic efficiency of the blower setup, compressed air gets hot and raises the combustion temperature. Even the header manufactures will not guarantee their ceramic coatings because of the higher exhaust gas temperatures. All in all, it appears as though Kleeman has worked out all the bugs that I had to do on my own to get the engine to perform as it should, so your worries should be naught.
However, one final thought - increasing the output of any given engine beyond it's initial design criteria will shorten it's life. That is a given - period! But, what are we talking about in reality? 150K vs 200K???? Who cares!
Thanks for your time reading this. I have no plans to force feed my CLK430, just wanted to clear a few things up that have been floating around.
