Tire Setup
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Tire Setup
Hey Guys & Ladies,
I have a staggered set AMG Monoblocks 18 Inch Rims 225/40/18 Front---265/35/18--- I had the car lowered using Eibach springs-- My shocks are in good condition- Car has less than 30K Miles-- The question I have are as follows, I will appricate some candid answers-- Thanks in Advance
1. Can I mix tire brands-
2.I currently have all P zero Neros- the rear is still very new cause I replaced less than 5k miles ago but the front has very bad wear on the inner part- I was told the car had negative camber-- Is it worth using camber bolts or should I just purchase 2 new front tires--
3.If I mixed tires- what brands will be recommended to be used in the front-apart from the P zero Neros--
I have a staggered set AMG Monoblocks 18 Inch Rims 225/40/18 Front---265/35/18--- I had the car lowered using Eibach springs-- My shocks are in good condition- Car has less than 30K Miles-- The question I have are as follows, I will appricate some candid answers-- Thanks in Advance
1. Can I mix tire brands-
2.I currently have all P zero Neros- the rear is still very new cause I replaced less than 5k miles ago but the front has very bad wear on the inner part- I was told the car had negative camber-- Is it worth using camber bolts or should I just purchase 2 new front tires--
3.If I mixed tires- what brands will be recommended to be used in the front-apart from the P zero Neros--
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Re: Tire Setup
Originally posted by prince_30144
Hey Guys & Ladies,
I have a staggered set AMG Monoblocks 18 Inch Rims 225/40/18 Front---265/35/18--- I had the car lowered using Eibach springs-- My shocks are in good condition- Car has less than 30K Miles-- The question I have are as follows, I will appricate some candid answers-- Thanks in Advance
1. Can I mix tire brands-
2.I currently have all P zero Neros- the rear is still very new cause I replaced less than 5k miles ago but the front has very bad wear on the inner part- I was told the car had negative camber-- Is it worth using camber bolts or should I just purchase 2 new front tires--
3.If I mixed tires- what brands will be recommended to be used in the front-apart from the P zero Neros--
Hey Guys & Ladies,
I have a staggered set AMG Monoblocks 18 Inch Rims 225/40/18 Front---265/35/18--- I had the car lowered using Eibach springs-- My shocks are in good condition- Car has less than 30K Miles-- The question I have are as follows, I will appricate some candid answers-- Thanks in Advance
1. Can I mix tire brands-
2.I currently have all P zero Neros- the rear is still very new cause I replaced less than 5k miles ago but the front has very bad wear on the inner part- I was told the car had negative camber-- Is it worth using camber bolts or should I just purchase 2 new front tires--
3.If I mixed tires- what brands will be recommended to be used in the front-apart from the P zero Neros--
2.) I suggest purchasing new tires for the front & getting a camber kit... changing your tires won't get rid of the negative camber... the negative camber will just eat through the new front tires.. however, if you get a camber kit now on your tires, if the tires already show real bad negative camber, the kit won't help as the tire will want to ride the way it has been riding...
3.) refer to #1
as a side note, you don't have properly matched tire sizes right now...
The proper combo fit should be one of the two:
Front: 225/40/18
Rear: 255/35/18
-OR-
Front: 235/40/18
Rear: 265/35/18
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Thanks Danny-- So If I put 235/40/18-- I will not experience any rubbing even though my car has been lowered slightly-- thanks in advance-- I think I will heed to your advice-
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Originally posted by prince_30144
Thanks Danny-- So If I put 235/40/18-- I will not experience any rubbing even though my car has been lowered slightly-- thanks in advance-- I think I will heed to your advice-
Thanks Danny-- So If I put 235/40/18-- I will not experience any rubbing even though my car has been lowered slightly-- thanks in advance-- I think I will heed to your advice-
235/40/18s are actually wider tires, so if it rubs now, it will only rub more...
what I am referring to is that the overall size of the tires are better matched when you have a 235/40 & 265/34 combo instead of what you have now....
your 225/40 tire should be matched with a 255/35 rear... this way, the overall size (diameter) of the tires are the same... different sized diameter tires can effect your ABS/ESP functionality...
negative camber is caused by you lowering your car... in that case, you need to do an alignment... if the alignment can't correct the problem, then you need to get a camber kit to correct the negative camber.... changing tires won't fix a camber issue
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oh, and to answer your question regarding rubbing, as long as the wheel's offsets are correct, you shouldn't get any rubbing issues with either of the tire sizes...
well, unless your car is lowered beyond 2", then you may have issues...
well, unless your car is lowered beyond 2", then you may have issues...
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Originally posted by prince_30144
Thanks Danny-- So If I put 235/40/18-- I will not experience any rubbing even though my car has been lowered slightly-- thanks in advance-- I think I will heed to your advice-
Thanks Danny-- So If I put 235/40/18-- I will not experience any rubbing even though my car has been lowered slightly-- thanks in advance-- I think I will heed to your advice-
Personally, I don't like mixing tires even within the same manufaturer. I like to replace everything at the same time. Worn tires perform differently than new tires. They change throughout their life. If they are purchased at different times, you might get a car that now wants to understeer or worse (for the average driver), oversteer in the corners. ESP will help save you from becoming roadside art but even that is not 100% foolproof.
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I've got the staggered 18" Monoblocks on my CLK. I have 235/40/18 an 265/35/18. I've got Pirelli P7000 all around. I don't have any problems if anything I feel my car handles alot better than when I had the stock amg's. But then again my car isn't lowered at all. It's still at stock height.
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Guys, currently I have 225, 255 P7000 on my clk, the car is lowered using Carlsson shocks+springs. I'm thinking of upgrading the tires to 235, 265 P-Zero Rosso. Is it going to work without rolling the fenders???
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Originally posted by D-5
Guys, currently I have 225, 255 P7000 on my clk, the car is lowered using Carlsson shocks+springs. I'm thinking of upgrading the tires to 235, 265 P-Zero Rosso. Is it going to work without rolling the fenders???
Guys, currently I have 225, 255 P7000 on my clk, the car is lowered using Carlsson shocks+springs. I'm thinking of upgrading the tires to 235, 265 P-Zero Rosso. Is it going to work without rolling the fenders???
my car is lowered EXACTLY 2" running 235/35/19 & 265/30/19 and I didn't have to roll anything....
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Originally posted by mmgrad
as long as your car isn't lowered more than 2", then you shouldn't have to lower anything...
as long as your car isn't lowered more than 2", then you shouldn't have to lower anything...
Danny, tHe sentence should be
".... shouldn't have to roll anything."
Also, you have to get the proper offset for the wheels. With the proper offset of the wheels, you should be able to fit 235 and 265 tire sizes.
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Originally posted by hinhin7
Danny, tHe sentence should be
".... shouldn't have to roll anything."
Also, you have to get the proper offset for the wheels. With the proper offset of the wheels, you should be able to fit 235 and 265 tire sizes.
Solihin
Danny, tHe sentence should be
".... shouldn't have to roll anything."
Also, you have to get the proper offset for the wheels. With the proper offset of the wheels, you should be able to fit 235 and 265 tire sizes.
Solihin
and yes, correct offsets are very important, but i figured he'd already have the correct offsets since the wheels are already on the car...
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Re: Re: Tire Setup
Originally posted by mmgrad
... if you get a camber kit now on your tires, if the tires already show real bad negative camber, the kit won't help as the tire will want to ride the way it has been riding...
... if you get a camber kit now on your tires, if the tires already show real bad negative camber, the kit won't help as the tire will want to ride the way it has been riding...
Thanks,
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Re: Re: Re: Tire Setup
Originally posted by hinhin7
Hey Danny, are you saying that eventhough the car has been aligned properly, the tire will still get more camber wear?
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Hey Danny, are you saying that eventhough the car has been aligned properly, the tire will still get more camber wear?
Thanks,
Solihin
if the camber is excessive, even after being corrected, the tires will still want to ride in the same way it was (at an angle) due to the way the tread was worn out...
you have to catch it early, or, its an early funeral for your tires...
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Tire Setup
Originally posted by mmgrad
once a tire has excessive camber wear, even though an alignment or camber kit will correct the problem, the damage will already be done...
if the camber is excessive, even after being corrected, the tires will still want to ride in the same way it was (at an angle) due to the way the tread was worn out...
you have to catch it early, or, its an early funeral for your tires...
once a tire has excessive camber wear, even though an alignment or camber kit will correct the problem, the damage will already be done...
if the camber is excessive, even after being corrected, the tires will still want to ride in the same way it was (at an angle) due to the way the tread was worn out...
you have to catch it early, or, its an early funeral for your tires...
Thanks,
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tire Setup
Originally posted by hinhin7
Ok ok, I think I need to start bringing my car to alignment shop then.
Thanks,
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Ok ok, I think I need to start bringing my car to alignment shop then.
Thanks,
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tire Setup
Originally posted by mmgrad
most definitely.. if your car has been recently lowered, you should let the suspension set for about 3-400 miles, then get an alignment done ASAP....
most definitely.. if your car has been recently lowered, you should let the suspension set for about 3-400 miles, then get an alignment done ASAP....
hahahaha... :-)
I think I have given too much time for the suspension too settle.
about 1500-2000 miles...
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tire Setup
Originally posted by hinhin7
hahahaha... :-)
I think I have given too much time for the suspension too settle.
about 1500-2000 miles...
Solihin
hahahaha... :-)
I think I have given too much time for the suspension too settle.
about 1500-2000 miles...
Solihin
