430 Soft Suspension
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430 Soft Suspension
I've noticed that the CLK430's suspension is so soft. It's not as tight I would have expected it to be for a sports coupe. Does anyone else experience this thought? Do the 320's feel the same?
I say all this because I got a C240 loaner today from the dealer and the suspension on it is pretty tight and responsive compared to my CLK.
If I had to change the suspension, can anyone recommend a moderately aggressive setup? I don't want anything too aggressive nor "slammed". I would also like to keep my original rims if possible. Thanks.
I say all this because I got a C240 loaner today from the dealer and the suspension on it is pretty tight and responsive compared to my CLK.
If I had to change the suspension, can anyone recommend a moderately aggressive setup? I don't want anything too aggressive nor "slammed". I would also like to keep my original rims if possible. Thanks.
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I have H&R springs and Koni sport adjustables shocks, which will lower your car arpund 1.5" all around and give you a stiffer ride.
As you can see I still have my original wheels, but even with this setup, you can go with 18 or 19 inch wheels and wider with no problem.
As you can see I still have my original wheels, but even with this setup, you can go with 18 or 19 inch wheels and wider with no problem.
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The boys on the forum don't like me much. Their ignorance about whom they are out weighs my ignorance or lack of expert experience with dropping 13k into the car for better performance.
MB has yet to design a vehicle that's suspension out performs its engines. Their suspension is very soft, and gives a luxury ride, as it is meant to. Unfortunately, that is just the way they are. You can add all kinds of upgrades, but don't expect MB to align your vehicle or support any sort of suspension concerns you have once you do.
I added H&R/Koni over a year ago and have yet to get an alignment done by MB because I modified the factory original. I don't know about you, but I think that is BS. Not that they won't do it, but apparently they can't get the laser machine under the car now, and want an extra 300 for labor to force it.
Good luck with the car, mine is crap, purchase new and in the shop more than I drive it. Had ordered an E55, and cancled the order as I will spend 100k elsewhere..
Two words about Mercedes... Not impressed....
The boys on the forum don't like me much. Their ignorance about whom they are out weighs my ignorance or lack of expert experience with dropping 13k into the car for better performance.
MB has yet to design a vehicle that's suspension out performs its engines. Their suspension is very soft, and gives a luxury ride, as it is meant to. Unfortunately, that is just the way they are. You can add all kinds of upgrades, but don't expect MB to align your vehicle or support any sort of suspension concerns you have once you do.
I added H&R/Koni over a year ago and have yet to get an alignment done by MB because I modified the factory original. I don't know about you, but I think that is BS. Not that they won't do it, but apparently they can't get the laser machine under the car now, and want an extra 300 for labor to force it.
Good luck with the car, mine is crap, purchase new and in the shop more than I drive it. Had ordered an E55, and cancled the order as I will spend 100k elsewhere..
Two words about Mercedes... Not impressed....
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Brabus will do the trick
That's a great question you are asking. I bought my 2002 CLK 430 brand new and went with Brabus Springs and OEM shocks as my suspension choice, and I must tell you that I am very impressed.
The ride is comfortable, the lowering is 1.25 inches and the handling is much improved. Although it is not a Porsche or a 540 suspension-wise, the benefit in ride quality and overall prestige and solidity of the vehicle more than outweigh the disadvantage in the suspension.
However, if you want a lowering look that is slightlly more cool than that of a CLK 55 AMG, while keeping a smooth and consistent ride and improving handling 35%, without spending too much money, then the Brabus Springs only should do the trick for the CLK 430.
P.S. Not too many on this forum have the Brabus springs (I think MMGrad has the Full [springs and shocks] Brabus suspension), and thus Brabus suspensions are often overlooked.
The ride is comfortable, the lowering is 1.25 inches and the handling is much improved. Although it is not a Porsche or a 540 suspension-wise, the benefit in ride quality and overall prestige and solidity of the vehicle more than outweigh the disadvantage in the suspension.
However, if you want a lowering look that is slightlly more cool than that of a CLK 55 AMG, while keeping a smooth and consistent ride and improving handling 35%, without spending too much money, then the Brabus Springs only should do the trick for the CLK 430.
P.S. Not too many on this forum have the Brabus springs (I think MMGrad has the Full [springs and shocks] Brabus suspension), and thus Brabus suspensions are often overlooked.
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How much is a full brabus suspension setup?Id definitely leaning more towards Brabus than Kleeman right now due to the huge difference in price...
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MMGrad has the full set-up
J - I would definitely talk to MMGrad about the costs and performance of the Full Brabus Suspension. I have heard it costs around 1000-1200??
Also, don't forget to ask around regarding the AMG Full Suspension. I have heard it goes for $900-1100 and you may be surprised by the amount of handling and comfort you get...
I have the springs only and they ran around $400-600 installed....
Also, don't forget to ask around regarding the AMG Full Suspension. I have heard it goes for $900-1100 and you may be surprised by the amount of handling and comfort you get...
I have the springs only and they ran around $400-600 installed....
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Actually it is specially made for the CLK 430
From what I understand AMG makes a seperate suspension for the CLK 430 that is not the same one from the 55.
We know that AMG was a tuner for MBZ (like Lorinser and Brabus) before they were bought by the company. Thus, aftermarket parts (like exhaust and suspension) were made for most MBZ models.
I know there is a seperate full suspension made for the 430 that is available. As far as ride height and performance characteristics, I would contact the authorized retailer CEC Wheels in Santa Monica.
My feeling is that AMG is a good quality name and makes good products, might be worth a look.
We know that AMG was a tuner for MBZ (like Lorinser and Brabus) before they were bought by the company. Thus, aftermarket parts (like exhaust and suspension) were made for most MBZ models.
I know there is a seperate full suspension made for the 430 that is available. As far as ride height and performance characteristics, I would contact the authorized retailer CEC Wheels in Santa Monica.
My feeling is that AMG is a good quality name and makes good products, might be worth a look.
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Must agree about the soft suspension, I have had my 01 CLK 430 for about a week and I must admit it handles no where near my old BMW 3 coupe. I think the suspension tweaks will be my 1st mod. I want to keep the luxury ride but I want to take the vagueness out of the steering and the float out of the ride.
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The AMG uses the same suspension and steering hookup, just uses different sway bars. Its the same ride height as the 430. It also uses the same transmission, but different brakes. I am not sure why MB likes to mass produce vehicles, but they do. Money I guess.
I put H&R / Koni in and it lowered the car 1.4 (F), 1.2(R), and took some of the sway / float out of the ride, but my theory is, I paid 60+ k for the car, if I am going to dump more in, I will go get something else. I too was dissapointed with the 430.
I put H&R / Koni in and it lowered the car 1.4 (F), 1.2(R), and took some of the sway / float out of the ride, but my theory is, I paid 60+ k for the car, if I am going to dump more in, I will go get something else. I too was dissapointed with the 430.
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There are people who spend 100,000 + on cars and still pour money into modding. Unless you get a car custom build for you, it cant live up to everything you want out of a car... My suggestion to you would be to get in a few test drives before purchasing... I cant understand how people buy a car and then say they dont like the way it drives...
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There are people who spend 100,000 + on cars and still pour money into modding. Unless you get a car custom build for you, it cant live up to everything you want out of a car... My suggestion to you would be to get in a few test drives before purchasing... I cant understand how people buy a car and then say they dont like the way it drives...
If that was a ref. to me I must say that I didn't go into this blindly and I fully understand that the Benz is not a sports car, but a sporty coupe. MB is and always will be like driving your couch. I think the point here is that people are led to believe that the CLK is something it is not. Not matter how much you put into it. I love my clk look, handling and style, but I sure wouldn't compare it to anything else other than another CLK. It can't compete.
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First, Idangeli is wrong about the only difference between the 430 and 55 being the sway bars. The 55 uses different stock shocks and a beefier transmission. Second, Idnageli is clueless about MB tuning. While the CLK will never have the balance to handle like a true sports car, there is huge room for improvement. Before you start babbling again Idangeli, why don't you take a look at the numbers Renntech was putting up in their CLK GTX. They have the CLK pulling close to a G on the skidpad and ran very competitive time in the supertuner shootout. Idangeli is obviously pissed because he was too ignorant to understand what he was buying before he bought it and too cheap to do something about his dissatisfaction. He posts innacurate information and doesn't have any useful knowledge when it comes to MB tuning.
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Have you seen ben from evosports clk lately? Ask him who and what he runs on the track with his clk... You can make it into whatver you want it to be, you just have to have the money to be able to do so. I think the point @ which most people start to get frustrated with the clk is when they realize all the things they want to do to it, they cant because its just too expensive... if you want to try to change the clk to your liking, it will cost you a bundle and most people just dont have that extra cash to mod their clk's to their liking with the exception of a few...
Originally posted by ldangeli
If that was a ref. to me I must say that I didn't go into this blindly and I fully understand that the Benz is not a sports car, but a sporty coupe. MB is and always will be like driving your couch. I think the point here is that people are led to believe that the CLK is something it is not. Not matter how much you put into it. I love my clk look, handling and style, but I sure wouldn't compare it to anything else other than another CLK. It can't compete.
If that was a ref. to me I must say that I didn't go into this blindly and I fully understand that the Benz is not a sports car, but a sporty coupe. MB is and always will be like driving your couch. I think the point here is that people are led to believe that the CLK is something it is not. Not matter how much you put into it. I love my clk look, handling and style, but I sure wouldn't compare it to anything else other than another CLK. It can't compete.
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Its my od friend sleesy-stack. According to MBUSA, the transmission is the same. I thought it was different as well, but according to the dealer / MBUSA Tech Reference its not. Oh anh you are so right about
. I forgot you are and always will be the infinitely wise one about MB. Relax Sleesboy. We forgot you are perfect. F a Rentech. I am doing something about it. I am buying a better car.
My point again, since you are too thick headed to understand it, let me spell it out for you, its not cost, sorry your a class warrior with no class, its principle. You pay decent money for a car that isn't worth it. Look on this forum alone at all the unhappy owners complaining about poor performance and relentless problems. Unlike you, everyone else has a full time job and can't waste their every waking moment strokin' their car.
It is always a pleasure to hear from you. We really should get together sometime.... It would be fantastic.
Idangeli is obviously pissed because he was too ignorant to understand what he was buying before he bought it and too cheap to do something about his dissatisfaction.
My point again, since you are too thick headed to understand it, let me spell it out for you, its not cost, sorry your a class warrior with no class, its principle. You pay decent money for a car that isn't worth it. Look on this forum alone at all the unhappy owners complaining about poor performance and relentless problems. Unlike you, everyone else has a full time job and can't waste their every waking moment strokin' their car.
It is always a pleasure to hear from you. We really should get together sometime.... It would be fantastic.
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Originally posted by J Lucas
Have you seen ben from evosports clk lately? Ask him who and what he runs on the track with his clk... You can make it into whatver you want it to be, you just have to have the money to be able to do so. I think the point @ which most people start to get frustrated with the clk is when they realize all the things they want to do to it, they cant because its just too expensive... if you want to try to change the clk to your liking, it will cost you a bundle and most people just dont have that extra cash to mod their clk's to their liking with the exception of a few...
Have you seen ben from evosports clk lately? Ask him who and what he runs on the track with his clk... You can make it into whatver you want it to be, you just have to have the money to be able to do so. I think the point @ which most people start to get frustrated with the clk is when they realize all the things they want to do to it, they cant because its just too expensive... if you want to try to change the clk to your liking, it will cost you a bundle and most people just dont have that extra cash to mod their clk's to their liking with the exception of a few...
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And why is it slees, that you think I don't have the money to mod. I PERSONALLY see it as a waste of time to try and achieve something that PERSONALLY think it will never be. I don't understand why you can't see that. IT IS MY OPINION. It has nothing to do with money. I see it as a waste. Yes it is a beautiful car, but to me just not that beautiful.. I guess I can't have my own opinion. Isn't that what this board is for? And come to think of it, you are referring to a post sometime back, that you and your A$$ Clown friend couldn't even answer a simple technical question about brakes. It was all about who's wallet was bigger and who knew more about Mods.
So really, who cares...
So really, who cares...
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Originally posted by ldangeli
Its my od friend sleesy-stack. According to MBUSA, the transmission is the same. I thought it was different as well, but according to the dealer / MBUSA Tech Reference its not. Oh anh you are so right about . I forgot you are and always will be the infinitely wise one about MB. Relax Sleesboy. We forgot you are perfect. F a Rentech. I am doing something about it. I am buying a better car.
My point again, since you are too thick headed to understand it, let me spell it out for you, its not cost, sorry your a class warrior with no class, its principle. You pay decent money for a car that isn't worth it. Look on this forum alone at all the unhappy owners complaining about poor performance and relentless problems. Unlike you, everyone else has a full time job and can't waste their every waking moment strokin' their car.
It is always a pleasure to hear from you. We really should get together sometime.... It would be fantastic.
Its my od friend sleesy-stack. According to MBUSA, the transmission is the same. I thought it was different as well, but according to the dealer / MBUSA Tech Reference its not. Oh anh you are so right about . I forgot you are and always will be the infinitely wise one about MB. Relax Sleesboy. We forgot you are perfect. F a Rentech. I am doing something about it. I am buying a better car.
My point again, since you are too thick headed to understand it, let me spell it out for you, its not cost, sorry your a class warrior with no class, its principle. You pay decent money for a car that isn't worth it. Look on this forum alone at all the unhappy owners complaining about poor performance and relentless problems. Unlike you, everyone else has a full time job and can't waste their every waking moment strokin' their car.
It is always a pleasure to hear from you. We really should get together sometime.... It would be fantastic.
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Originally posted by ldangeli
And why is it slees, that you think I don't have the money to mod. I PERSONALLY see it as a waste of time to try and achieve something that PERSONALLY think it will never be. I don't understand why you can't see that. IT IS MY OPINION. It has nothing to do with money. I see it as a waste. Yes it is a beautiful car, but to me just not that beautiful.. I guess I can't have my own opinion. Isn't that what this board is for? And come to think of it, you are referring to a post sometime back, that you and your A$$ Clown friend couldn't even answer a simple technical question about brakes.
So really, who cares...
And why is it slees, that you think I don't have the money to mod. I PERSONALLY see it as a waste of time to try and achieve something that PERSONALLY think it will never be. I don't understand why you can't see that. IT IS MY OPINION. It has nothing to do with money. I see it as a waste. Yes it is a beautiful car, but to me just not that beautiful.. I guess I can't have my own opinion. Isn't that what this board is for? And come to think of it, you are referring to a post sometime back, that you and your A$$ Clown friend couldn't even answer a simple technical question about brakes.
So really, who cares...
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Again, oh wise one. You are so right, as usual. I got into my car, because of this board actually. And look where it landed me.. I am not giving misinformation, I am giving what I was told by MB, oh yeah, and a fellow MB owner who ridded himself of his AMG. And anyone who doesn't double check multiple sources, should wake up.
Riddle me this tool-boy. You buy a car, for 60K new, you dump 20K mods into it and by the first year its worth 39k? Want to talk accountability?? And the car isn't too much money. Its not enough car...
Riddle me this tool-boy. You buy a car, for 60K new, you dump 20K mods into it and by the first year its worth 39k? Want to talk accountability?? And the car isn't too much money. Its not enough car...
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Originally posted by ldangeli
Again, oh wise one. You are so right, as usual. I got into my car, because of this board actually. And look where it landed me.. I am not giving misinformation, I am giving what I was told by MB, oh yeah, and a fellow MB owner who ridded himself of his AMG. And anyone who doesn't double check multiple sources, should wake up.
Riddle me this tool-boy. You buy a car, for 60K new, you dump 20K mods into it and by the first year its worth 39k? Want to talk accountability?? And the car isn't too much money. Its not enough car...
Again, oh wise one. You are so right, as usual. I got into my car, because of this board actually. And look where it landed me.. I am not giving misinformation, I am giving what I was told by MB, oh yeah, and a fellow MB owner who ridded himself of his AMG. And anyone who doesn't double check multiple sources, should wake up.
Riddle me this tool-boy. You buy a car, for 60K new, you dump 20K mods into it and by the first year its worth 39k? Want to talk accountability?? And the car isn't too much money. Its not enough car...
I'm not sure how many times I have to say that tuning is a horrible value play. I think we agree on that. You are concerned about value when it comes to your cars, I am not.
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I will agree that moding is value play, but guys like you and I who can and have dumped a lot of money into a car(s), I feel can give the wrong impression to other board readers who are looking to get somewhere with the CLK without spending another 100k, and it will never be..
That is all I am sayin...
For 160k there is so much out there that just makes me all tingly in my pants.. unfortunately MB CLK ain't it.
BTW - thats a sickness you have...
That is all I am sayin...
For 160k there is so much out there that just makes me all tingly in my pants.. unfortunately MB CLK ain't it.
BTW - thats a sickness you have...
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Originally posted by ldangeli
I will agree that moding is value play, but guys like you and I who can and have dumped a lot of money into a car(s), I feel can give the wrong impression to other board readers who are looking to get somewhere with the CLK withouth spending another 100k.
That is all I am sayin...
For 160k there is so much out there that just makes me all tingly in my pants.. unfortunately MB CLK ain't it.
I will agree that moding is value play, but guys like you and I who can and have dumped a lot of money into a car(s), I feel can give the wrong impression to other board readers who are looking to get somewhere with the CLK withouth spending another 100k.
That is all I am sayin...
For 160k there is so much out there that just makes me all tingly in my pants.. unfortunately MB CLK ain't it.
