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Hypocrisy, exemplified:
BUSTED!!
Lou,
I can't figure out what your CLK/MB/MB dealer/this board has done to infuriate you. Why, just a short year ago, you were one of the faithful....
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...0&pagenumber=4
And yes, I was one of the faithful, just like CLKAL, until i started having nothing but issues with my car. The, that was the end of my love.. Now she sits outside under a tree, not to be moved until its sold.
Um, my Audi, which I picked up on Saturday, was listed at 52600, and I picked it up for 49500. It has everything but NAV.
My CLK, which I picked up new two years ago, was listed at 65, 600, configured, and I picked it up for 59900. So, pricing, irrelevant as it may be, may be different on each coast.


Or, how about these (incorrect) attempts at bragging, which I proved to be false with a direct pricing comparison and a company info sheet for Porsche:


LOL, busted again...all you've *done* since hopping into this thread is spew out one lie after another and brag about your new Volkswagon.
Dang, dude, don't you ever get tired of being made to look stupid? Isn't too hard, really, but it sure is fun!!
It's great that you enjoy your new Porsche, but you know what: I've got a CLK55, a Lexus, *and** a BMW, and I could damn sure afford whatever car you and mr. ignorantelli are currently driving if I was so inclined.
So, you love your new porsche. Good for you. So why don't you get your happy *ss over to the porsche boards where it belongs and stop polluting our boards already? You have become a total d*ck since leaving this board, and I'm starting to get really tired ot it.
And please, spare me this stupid boy-racer wannabe crap about how the relative track capabilities of these cars should be "the" determining factor as to their relative worth. Your criterion for choosing a car are just that:: YOUR CRITERION. They are NOT OUR CRITERION, dummy. I can't believe the arrogance of people like you: once you change your minds and adopt a new position, everyone who still holds the position you held before is suddenly an idiot and so forth: it seems to stem from some pathetic need to rationalize your new purchase by putting down anyone who still owns and enjoys the car you previously owned. Well, screw you. I like my car. If you don't, I could care less, just like I could care less if you like my watch, my house, or my clothes, nor could I give two sh*ts about what you think of them in general, or your reasons and rationale for me not to purchase them.
Finally, it seems that you share mr idiotelli's position that if one car, driven at 10/10 by a pro, is a fraction of a second faster around a track, then the other car is somehow unworthy of being mentioned in the same sentence. This is frankly the most ignorant, uninformed nonsense I've ever heard. The fact is that people DO NOT DRIVE AT 10/10 ON THE STREET, unless they have any brains, which might rule you out...but if you're enough of a nut to drive at 10/10 on your daily commute, then your opinion is worthless to me anyway.
The fact is that if LESS THAN ONE SECOND separates two cars in the hands of a PRO DRIVER on a TRACK, then when driven at a rapid pace on curvey ROADS, the two cars will be EQUAL, because most drivers ARE NOT CRAZY OR STUPID enough to DRIVE AT 10/10 ON THE STREET.
ALL of these cars involve tradeoffs. God, it's like arguing about religion with you people: you truly act as though YOUR choice is the Way, the Truth, and the Light, and anyone who believes otherwise is damned to eternal damnation in car hell. Well, guess what: you ain't the car messiah, and YOUR OPINIONS ARE YOUR OWN.
Is that clear?? I doubt it, but hope springs eternal....why don't BOTH of you follow mr ignorantelli's original advice in the lexus thread, and GO TO THE BOARDS FOR ENTHUSIASTS FOR YOUR NEW CARS???
Is that so uard to understand? Oh, wait, I forgot who I'm dealing with here...
Last edited by Improviz; Jun 14, 2004 at 01:46 PM.
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Furthermore, a few pages back you giving praise about the S4, so who is really being hypocritical now? Looser. You are such a looser. I am more than happy to own a car that is truly owned by a german car company and not co-owned by an american disaster. Man, it's ok man, we all know you were sold a bad bunch of goods..
Last edited by ldangeli; Jun 14, 2004 at 02:25 PM.
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Originally posted by PerformanceCLK
What i dont understand is why this forum's central theme of late is basically a "What is wrong with my clk/i want to sell it/ how much is it worth" progression. Granted my clk has numerous minor "issues" but my clk could start 10% of the time, backfire, get 8 mpg and drop to a retail value of $1,500 and i'd still keep it.... for the exact same reasons i liked it in the first place, and accepting the minor wrinkles that have been there all the while. This is as much a modification forum as an actual discussion of clk specs, and honestly i dont mod my car so that its resale value goes up. I don't think anyone does. Take some pride in ownership people. And NO car, Japanese or German, is unavoidably without minor problems.
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I see this echoed on many Mercedes forums. Visit a BMW forum and you will read about how much people dislike the Bangle designs of the recent cars. Visit a Porsche forum and read about how people feel Porsche has lost it’s heritage.
The situation with Mercedes is just as real as the others, Mercedes quality is down. Mercedes was once at the top of every major quality and safety report available. They are now below average in the vast majority, Check out http://www.autooninfo.info . In particular check out Mercedes from 2000. http://www.autooninfo.info/RelPerMerBenzCharts.htm
I don’t think you are reading lack of pride in ownership but rather disappointment. I know I am disappointed to see one of the best marks in the history the automotive industry slip. Pride in ownership should not mean you can’t point out a fault. I have great pride in keeping my daughters 1985 325e with 280k running well, but I can assure you I don’t always have positive things to say about it.
Do You Live In New Jersey ? If So, I think you need to express your feelings to me face to face. I didn't offend all CLK55 owners - It's a great car - It's just not what some of you try to make it out to be, JERK ! And Not once did I mention my PORSCHE, Not Once - So Instead of going back and forth, let's meet - then let's see if your AS^ can cash the checks your mouth is writing. Randolph New Jersey - ANYTIME...
Mercedes data from the site you linked:
And here's Audi:
Audi data from the site you linked:
Each table gives an average 1995-1999 reliability percent ranking for each manufacturer, where higher is better.
Mercedes scored a 0.52, and Audi scored a 0.46.
Which means Mercedes scored higher on reliabliity, according to the site you linked.
Thank you for pointing out what we already knew.

As posted by Fletch:
you're doing a much better job of it than I can!
Must be all of that toxic Jersey waste seeping into your brain, what little there is left of it...Anyway, enjoy your Veedub!
Hey Improviz, I think your lunch break is over, their calling for you at register 5...
You, in return act the same way as us when you go on the offensive if we have something negative to say about the S4.
So how about this: The E46 BMW M3 OWNS the VW (audi) S4.
The M3 Handles Better thant the S4.
The M3 is Faster than the S4.
The M3 is better looking than the S4.
The M3 attracts more female attention than the S4.
The M3 is the Original and the S4 is the Imitation.
That being said, shouldn't you now start posting on Roadfly and Bimmer.org? Hurry! You don't want to waste any more time, every second that passes more and more people are bashing you worthless VW!!
And this is with six gears to the CLK's five, pitting a brand new, "never follow" audi chassis against a 1998 Mercedes chassis.
Wow.

So, since earlier in this thread, you mentioned that because the M3 was tested faster around a track than the CLK55, it was an "unworthy" opponent to the M3, I'm sure that you now will admit that the S4 is an unworthy opponent to the CLK55, which beat the S4 by a larger margin, right?

Hey Improviz, if you are going to post statistical info from non-biased websites, go to the www.track-challenge.com, and take a look at how you so called superior CLK did agains, the 03' S4 Avant. Looks like we went head to head.
Last edited by Improviz; Jun 14, 2004 at 07:00 PM.
What, what was that
Loudspeaker: Gimproviz, please report the front, you're needed on register 5...
Better run sally. They're calling for you. I'll tell you what. Out of all the cars I have owned, some more expensive, some less expensive than the CLK, I truly have never driven a more uncomfortable, less reliable tank like the CLK. Oh wait, you already told me, the Audi is worse. Right, you got me. Well like I said before. We'll wait and see.






