turbo 320?
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turbo 320?
Hi all, I've searched this site for info and came up blank. Is there any reason why a 320 can't be turbocharged? Pistons, fuel delivery, computer? I have the resources available to do this but only if there arent any huge issues. 11k for a supercharger is just insane to me, then again I've never had the pleasure of riding in one. Any info would help.
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The main issue is the difficulty with turboing V engined cars is making the intake manifold. There is alot of custom work involved with engineering all the ducting and software as well. The reason you see alot of turbo M3's and 4 cyls is because making a different manifold for an engine with its cylinders in a straight row is a lot easier. I think it would cost a lot more that 11k to turbocharge a 320, but if you look around you might be able to find someone with a used Kleeman kit. As far as its performance goes, ride in a CLK 55 and imagine it being slightly to moderately faster and you have a ballpark idea of what a Kleeman CLK320 will do.
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I know you would have to have stainless exhaust manifolds made, but why would you need a new intake manifold? I have seen countless domestic cars (v8) that use their O.E. intakes with centrifugal superchargers and turbos.The MAF would need to be recalibrated also. I have a direct contact with Turbonetics and would really like to see this happen. My biggest concerns are with the computer and pistons. Does anyone know if they are forged, cast, hypereutectic(sp?).I believe I read somwhere on this site that fuel delivery is an issue. I really want to do this but not at the cost of a great car. Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by King320
As far as its performance goes, ride in a CLK 55 and imagine it being slightly to moderately faster and you have a ballpark idea of what a Kleeman CLK320 will do.
According to the Kleemann article in Benzo a couple years ago, they compared a stock CLK55 to a supercharged Kleemann CLK430 and the 0-60 times were the same.
So, how is a Kleemann CLK320 going to be "slightly to moderately faster"?
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the more I look into this the better it looks. I read somewhere on this site, that someone was running a C class I believe 320 at .75 bars (10.5psi) with no problems. Does anyone know what type of reprograming for the MAF I will need or larger injectors?
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i dunno but i was thinking about getting a turbo over the summer...if you find out anything, that'd be cool. i know a guy over in daytona that does that sorta stuff, but i dont think he's done any of these kinds of engines
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http://www.silcom.com/~neilv/C36turbo/
This place is also a distrubutor of Mosselman Turbos. They said the guy would be in tomorrow morning:
Motronix
1910 Tigertail Blvd.
Dania Fl. 33004
Tel. 954-921-7442
This place is also a distrubutor of Mosselman Turbos. They said the guy would be in tomorrow morning:
Motronix
1910 Tigertail Blvd.
Dania Fl. 33004
Tel. 954-921-7442
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thanks for the contact info. I just read about Turbonetics new single turbo set up for the 350Z. They are using O.E. exhaust manifolds at 8psi reliably and over 300whp.Price was around 5300.00
If I can get this going, how many are interested?
If I can get this going, how many are interested?
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had my numbers wrong...
Originally Posted by Chappy
That's funny.
According to the Kleemann article in Benzo a couple years ago, they compared a stock CLK55 to a supercharged Kleemann CLK430 and the 0-60 times were the same.
So, how is a Kleemann CLK320 going to be "slightly to moderately faster"?
According to the Kleemann article in Benzo a couple years ago, they compared a stock CLK55 to a supercharged Kleemann CLK430 and the 0-60 times were the same.
So, how is a Kleemann CLK320 going to be "slightly to moderately faster"?
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Originally Posted by King320
For some reason i had my numbers mixed up. The AMG transmission will be faster than the 320 transmission, but the horsepower ratings are very similar and the Kleeman 320 is lighter by 200 lbs. A 55 has only 14 or so more HP than a Kleeman 320, HOWEVER, my mistake was in the torque numbers. I was comparing and 376 ft/lbs from a 55 to 441nm from a 320K without noticing the difference in units. My bad I do have a hard time believing that a 55 is as fast as a Kleeman 430 tho, maybe 0-60 because of the AMG gearing, but the 430K has a 60 HP advantage and a 50nm torque advantage. I'm not an expert on this, so i could be wrong, i just wanted to explain my statement.
I'll see if I can dig out that old copy of Benzo and post some of the specifics.
I did a search on Kleemann CLK320 performance on this site and there was a post a couple years ago where Ted Baldwin had reported a 0-60 time for his Kleemann CLK320 of 5.6 seconds. Hope this helps
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Yeh, it does. Thats a pretty slow time for a 330HP car though, its probably the slow transmission if the time's accurate. If my 320 last long enough for me to get out of school and get a job with some good money i'd like to Kleeman SC it and do a transmission swap using an SLK32 6-Speed manual. Renntech says it can be done, but it might be more of a pain than it's worth (esp with the prices of 55s and E46 M3s by that time).
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Originally Posted by Chappy
I'll see if I can dig out that old copy of Benzo and post some of the specifics.
