tollo2000

Any ideas is Carlsson CM50K worth the trouble?

Any idea how much will that kompressor kit cost?

4.9s 0-62mph and 178mph top speed are better performance values than CLK 55 AMG!

Chi500

I would go with Kleeman for supercharging. I think it was about $12,000 if you have it done at their shop in Colorado. They claim about 500 hp.

tollo2000

Really? Tell me more.

C43AMG

Try here : http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main

pth611

how much does carlsson charge for their compressor?

vraa

I hope this helps for the Carlsson info.


If you want more information on the Carlsson products, email info@euroteckmotorsports.com
If you want more information on the Kleemann products, email sales@evosport.com

Good luck!

tollo2000

Could it be that those price listed are for the full engines, but not engine conversions? Seems a lot of money for a kompressor unit and exhaust system installation.

Does anyone have Kleemann pricelist?

Chi500

Those prices are just for the supercharger and installation. Yes, it is high but you're not supercharging a Honda here.

tollo2000

Those Carlsson prices are ridiculous. There is absolutely no reason to buy the CM50 K or CM32 K packages. You can replace your CLK500 to the AMG version with much much less and get more horsepower, the AMG look, AMG rims, AMG suspension etc. Too bad Carlsson has completely out priced themselves.

The Carlsson kompressor replacement kit for SLK 55 AMG (360hp->480hp)cost around 16'000€ / 16'000$ and I dont see any justification for CM50 K kit being more expensive. They consist of about the same parts.

And by the way, there is not much difference today whether you are fitting a kompressor / turbo charger to a Honda or Mercedes, both are highly advanced engines. I do not own a Honda and propably newer will, but that is the simple truth.

mleskovar

and more reliability, and come with a warranty. The AMG version engines are tuned from the inside out and not just bolt on enhancements. The internal differences seem minor but are there for a reason.

Josh K

I agree with the statements above if if you're buying bolt on parts. I've visited the Carlsson factory and their work is worth every penny.

Chi500

1. I didn't suggest the Carlsson set up, I suggested the Kleeman one
2. The difference is that they have to engineer these kits for a Mercedes. They won't sell nearly as many superchargers/turbos for Mercedes cars as those who develop F/I for Hondas. Also, how many Mercedes owners will put a supercharger and void a warranty on a very expensive engine to replace? That and the fact that you own a Mercedes and they think you have more money for them to suck out of you, elasticity of demand. The Mercedes tuners also don't have very much competition. Hence, the higher price.
3. If you don't like the price, don't buy it. You're right when you say Carlsson outpriced themselves, because I'm looking to go with Kleeman once my warranty is up.

tollo2000

Carlsson is a great choice if someone wants a completely hand built real Carlsson Mercedes and wants more horsepower than the amg version can offer. Otherwise the kompressor kits just aren't worth the money. Carlsson has Mercedes/AMG quality, atleast thats what I have been told. I have also seen the quality of the real Carlsson cars. They're amazing inside and outside. The interior is superior to anything I have seen from Merdedes, including Designo.

Yet Carlsson has generally better price/performance ratio than Brabus.

Does anyone have the Kleemann kompressor prices? They seem as the best choice for a kompressor tune up.

Chi500

Kleeman costs $12,000 if you send your car to their shop in CO. I think thats only for the supercharger. The shop near me wants $14,500 for that, and 16,000 for the supercharger plus the ECU. I think it was almost $20,000 for all of that plus the exhuast and headers. Best thing you can do is call Kleeman.

tollo2000

12'000$ doesnt seem that bad. It's around 10'000€. The price difference between CLK 500 and CLK 55 AMG is much more than 10'000€ and AMG has only 61hp more than 500. With the kompressor kit you get more than 100hp.

I checked the Kleemann website and they are developing a new line of kompressors for V8s that have 0.3b turbo pressure instead of 0.45b and they expect 25% drop in the price (the new line should be more reliable too). If those prices you listed are "old line" prices, then it could be possible to get one with less than 10'000$!!

tollo2000

Dunno really about USA prices, but in Europe Carlsson CLK 55 kompressor kit (480hp) costs 17'000€ (including labour work) and it's about 20'000$. That is much less than 32'000$... I suggest u guys check your prices or switch to another vendor .