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DevJ

I've been on this forum almost as long as you have

Glad the MB owners I know in real life aren't like a few of you on the interwebs..

BaLLzZz

It has been discussed numerous times on this thread. I just cant see it happening unless the 4 idiots in the m3 are shifting at 6500 rpms lOl. I mean the 550s have punch but an m3 in the right gear shifting correctly should have no problem making minced meat of a clk550. Just my honest opinion.

lowpost

FWIW I also have to see it to believe it.

Also all the new e92 members had reasonable posts in here except for one who sounds like a real dick. A little bit of an overreaction based on the actual original post.

I test drove an e92 and a c63 last august and if I was babyless I'd go with the M3 - it's a much angrier car from a pure driving standpoint. But I'd probbaly get the C63 so I can throw a babyseat in the back.

Shoomakan

This was a very entertaining 30 minutes of my life. I read everything here and will just comment on what I remember:

1. The E92 M3 is faster on the track than a C63, and this has been proven in mags and Top Gear, who someone referenced. In fact, it also beat a 4 door Audi RS4, which ALSO beat the C63 AMG, if I remember correctly.

2. C63's come in 450 and 480bhp variants. (480 being the 2009 PP packages)

3. A C6 Vette is very closely matched to E92 M3's, seen them head to head myself.

4. My dad OWNS a German CLK500 (American 550). I know exactly what it can and can't do. I steal it when he goes to bed.

5. The higher revving your engine, the better top speed it will have. Think of old muscle cars: 425 bhp, 7,132,541 ft/lbs of torque, and a top speed of 110-130 mph. If that. While a slightly modded Honda B18 engine will go the far side of 150. High horsepower and high revs are the key to fast top end acceleration, NOT big displacement alone.

6. My favorite Benz in the whole wide world right now is a CLK 63, so I'm not being biased. I'm just being a realist.

7. I have coined a Goddess called Pistonette, who I use to blame all totally weird drag related incidents to. Think of this: My old 240bhp E30 Touring beat a late model E500 at the top end. Many such incidents happen, and it can be the result of many things. Car was cold, A/C on or off, literally a plethora of things that add up to make for really weird results.

8. My opinion, then? Dude, don't try it again, because the M3 is up the C63's *** in a drag, which is almost 100 horses ahead of you. I guess if you install some bolt ons you'd take it, but you're not stock anymore, now are you? If you really won, just walk away. And you would have avoided all this by changing your topic statement waaay back in page 1. You should have written: "Hey guys, I drag raced an E92 the other day and won. I know this shouldn't have happened, but now I'm curious. Anyone have an M3 around so we can give it a friendly shot?" This adds to your credibility, speaks well of your attitude, and generally leaves a more believable response simply because you're admitting it shouldn't have happened. Anyways, all this was my opinion, no one jump down my neck, be kind and respond nicely.

BadBlack550

all i have to say is I did it and i stick to original story.
anybody wants to prove me wrong, i would love to have a quick race.
i have a camera and a car camera mount.

If you are in NYC bring it.

PS. i am not here to brag, just stating facts. if you find it hard to believe i dont blame you, I was surprised myself!

supacrazykev

almost 100 horses? we're talking about 550 engine not the 500. It's only 38 hp difference. 382 hp vs. 420 hp. (Stock and stock)

Shoomakan

I was referring to the difference between the C63 and the 550, not the M3. Sorry, I should have made that clearer.

wildmark

Good god man your so full of **** it's scary!

BLKCLK550

I can second his claim i have ran multiple times on a roll against a E92 m3 and beat them, we have a lot more TQ, from stand still diff story we need 305 tires then from the digg we can have a small chance.
I toped my car the 1st night i got it at 155 engine was still pulling but the damn delimiter grrr.


you forgot to count clks torque over M3's torque there buddy.

wildmark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYojs78Tf9Y

Need I say more!

BLKCLK550

Video coming

wildmark

What a load of ****!

speedee911

An E92 M3 is not THAT much faster than the old E46 M3, or the stock 335i.. There's videos on Youtube of the E92 getting beat by a 335i, stock vs stock, although that's probably a driver's mistake. But a chipped 335i can EEEEASILY keep up with an E92 M3. And a stock 135i too..

Stock 135i beats M3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0uw2W_94PI

Modded 335i keeps up with M3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrGx7b_1juY

I think M3 vs CLK550 would be close, because of the 550's torque (391), but the M3 MIGHT win if they had equally skilled drivers. On a track, M3 would win hands down, I dont think anyone doubts that.. But these are all opinions, I would love to see a video of that race.

speedee911

Lets review the facts..

2009 CLK550
5.5L V8
382 HP @ 6,000 RPM
391 FT @ 2,800 RPM
Weight = 3,720 pounds (automatic)

2010 BMW M3 Coupe
4.0L V8
414 HP @ 8,300 RPM
295 FT @ 3,900 RPM
Weight = 3,704 pounds (manual)

Even on paper thats pretty darn close to me.. It could go either way. The 16 pounds weight difference is really nothing. Thats like my left nut right there lol.. And the -32 hp and +96 lb-ft torque would probably benefit the MB..

M-bENZ

Anything can happen on the streets.

Andy

kevblah

I never really looked at the raw numbers like that, that does seem pretty close lol.

vikasdesai

e92 m3's are amazing rides, but they make great test cars, how about a car to drive every single day? well they only put 295 pounds of tourque, they having a high revving f1 style v8. Not exactly a car that has everyday power, that's why a clk can beat it in certain situations, on a track the m3 is the best regular car you can buy, but when you need to drive a car everyday in rush hour traffic >25000 miles a year? i'll take the reliable MB v-8

advans

I've driven a E92 M3, and those things are QUICK, it feels quicker than my C55!

AND I have mods on my C55, maybe you should race me one day, if you can beat me, then you'll have a chance.

dumpsta

It is pretty hard to gauge speed just by seat of the pants. My CLK550 pulls very hard and without actually racing it side by side with the C63 I really can't tell which one is faster (maybe I have no skills?), and I drive both of them on a daily basis.

Those of you though that consistently say the M3 would be faster around a track, well, you are probably right given the same driver. But on the track it is more about the driver, and the track is really where 'anything' can happen. It is not uncommon to see great drivers in rust buckets running circles around exotics at the track.

user 76208202

Well i can tell you that the C63 will smoke you (you don't have to have skills to know that). Maybe you meant the C55?

speedee911

this is so true..

dumpsta

What I meant is that I also have a C63, and acceleration feels just about the same from the inside; that just by driving the cars its hard to tell which one is faster.

TrueracerMB

I would lovee to blow the doors off another M3. new or old.