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09-10-2010, 02:33 AM
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lol me and badblack both know how to run our cars we have done it many times before, we both ware on the phone during the run, telling each other what gear we are in. There was no auto mode what so ever. Both cars ware in the same gear.
09-10-2010, 12:15 PM
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'05 C200K SS, '05 Kleemann CLK500K, '08 Hummer H3 & '92 Z34 5sp (track car in Canada)
This winter when the racetracks open up again I'm going to start looking for a custom tune shop here in Dubai as I plan on doing what I did back home when I modded my cars - base runs followed by additional runs after every mod. I'll be able to post a thread up on what the actual gains are for all the mods we're talking about on this forum & I imagine that they will be 3hp here and 5hp there.
What I'd really like to do though is find a tuner that will work with Speedtunning and see if we can flash the ECU here so I can get some numbers on the dyno for it. Then do a custom tune based on my setup and elevation.
I'm very interested in seeing the numbers posted by someone who has already done the tune including a wideband O2 reading. Most flashes/chips lean up a half a point (adds a few hp since cars from the factory run very rich, as well as increases milage), advance the timing half or one degree but also re-map the throttle (just like a sprint booster). Although the car feels quite a bit faster the actual gains are fairly low - seen a lot of 10-15hp gains in actual dyno testing.
In the end, the price for this tune is fantastic, if you can pick up a few hp, a few mpg, improve the throttle response and retain healthy a/f ratio's I think you're all making a good/fun investment.
What I'd really like to do though is find a tuner that will work with Speedtunning and see if we can flash the ECU here so I can get some numbers on the dyno for it. Then do a custom tune based on my setup and elevation.
I'm very interested in seeing the numbers posted by someone who has already done the tune including a wideband O2 reading. Most flashes/chips lean up a half a point (adds a few hp since cars from the factory run very rich, as well as increases milage), advance the timing half or one degree but also re-map the throttle (just like a sprint booster). Although the car feels quite a bit faster the actual gains are fairly low - seen a lot of 10-15hp gains in actual dyno testing.
In the end, the price for this tune is fantastic, if you can pick up a few hp, a few mpg, improve the throttle response and retain healthy a/f ratio's I think you're all making a good/fun investment.
09-10-2010, 01:56 PM
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This winter when the racetracks open up again I'm going to start looking for a custom tune shop here in Dubai as I plan on doing what I did back home when I modded my cars - base runs followed by additional runs after every mod. I'll be able to post a thread up on what the actual gains are for all the mods we're talking about on this forum & I imagine that they will be 3hp here and 5hp there.
What I'd really like to do though is find a tuner that will work with Speedtunning and see if we can flash the ECU here so I can get some numbers on the dyno for it. Then do a custom tune based on my setup and elevation.
I'm very interested in seeing the numbers posted by someone who has already done the tune including a wideband O2 reading. Most flashes/chips lean up a half a point (adds a few hp since cars from the factory run very rich, as well as increases milage), advance the timing half or one degree but also re-map the throttle (just like a sprint booster). Although the car feels quite a bit faster the actual gains are fairly low - seen a lot of 10-15hp gains in actual dyno testing.
In the end, the price for this tune is fantastic, if you can pick up a few hp, a few mpg, improve the throttle response and retain healthy a/f ratio's I think you're all making a good/fun investment.
What I'd really like to do though is find a tuner that will work with Speedtunning and see if we can flash the ECU here so I can get some numbers on the dyno for it. Then do a custom tune based on my setup and elevation.
I'm very interested in seeing the numbers posted by someone who has already done the tune including a wideband O2 reading. Most flashes/chips lean up a half a point (adds a few hp since cars from the factory run very rich, as well as increases milage), advance the timing half or one degree but also re-map the throttle (just like a sprint booster). Although the car feels quite a bit faster the actual gains are fairly low - seen a lot of 10-15hp gains in actual dyno testing.
In the end, the price for this tune is fantastic, if you can pick up a few hp, a few mpg, improve the throttle response and retain healthy a/f ratio's I think you're all making a good/fun investment.
.Andy
09-10-2010, 02:05 PM
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I'm very interested in seeing the numbers posted by someone who has already done the tune including a wideband O2 reading. Most flashes/chips lean up a half a point (adds a few hp since cars from the factory run very rich, as well as increases milage), advance the timing half or one degree but also re-map the throttle (just like a sprint booster). Although the car feels quite a bit faster the actual gains are fairly low - seen a lot of 10-15hp gains in actual dyno testing..
Well said.
09-10-2010, 03:01 PM
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'05 C200K SS, '05 Kleemann CLK500K, '08 Hummer H3 & '92 Z34 5sp (track car in Canada)
Like you Klinh, I've been involved in building/racing cars and around a lot of ECU tuning, both as a customer in the past and as a custom tuner/driver not so long ago. It'll will be great to see several of us on this board pull our resourses and post up actual results and unbais information that will help others make decisions based on our colaborated findings.
You're certainly no stranger to tuning and working on/with CLK's and cars in general yourself by the sounds of it, I look forward to continuing to read and use the information in your threads as I get myself more familiar with my 'new' CLK as well and hope to be able to contribute useful articles as several of you already have.
Now, a great starting point would be to have a Speedtuning representative give us a couple of basic tid-bits of info on this flash, ie; a/f ratio's, timing advance and elevation correction. None of this would compromise the sales/integrity of the product as it can all be deciphered by any tuner with access to a flashed ECU.
Again, great price and I'm sure a well thought-out and engineered flash.
You're certainly no stranger to tuning and working on/with CLK's and cars in general yourself by the sounds of it, I look forward to continuing to read and use the information in your threads as I get myself more familiar with my 'new' CLK as well and hope to be able to contribute useful articles as several of you already have.
Now, a great starting point would be to have a Speedtuning representative give us a couple of basic tid-bits of info on this flash, ie; a/f ratio's, timing advance and elevation correction. None of this would compromise the sales/integrity of the product as it can all be deciphered by any tuner with access to a flashed ECU.
Again, great price and I'm sure a well thought-out and engineered flash.
09-13-2010, 12:48 AM
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Skimmed through the replies here, as I'm interested in getting my ECU done with Speedtuning as well, but something caught my eye; the talk about 93 octane fuel. Seeing as I've only got a 350, I've just been putting in the mid grade fuel, which is I believe 89 octane, and I've yet to have any problems with it. Would I need to start putting in 93 if I were to get my ECU reflashed?
09-13-2010, 03:31 AM
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Skimmed through the replies here, as I'm interested in getting my ECU done with Speedtuning as well, but something caught my eye; the talk about 93 octane fuel. Seeing as I've only got a 350, I've just been putting in the mid grade fuel, which is I believe 89 octane, and I've yet to have any problems with it. Would I need to start putting in 93 if I were to get my ECU reflashed?
Since you have a 350 like me. Note your performance improvements for me
Not many people did the flash with our engine.
09-13-2010, 11:04 AM
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I think the ECU tune is designed for 93, but you can ask Oliver to customize it for you. Over in cali, 91 octane is the highest so I would need to customize it for 91 octane. Oliver said you get better performance with 93 over 91 with the tune. Btw why are you using 89? It's bad for the engine. Lowest you should go is 91/93.
Since you have a 350 like me. Note your performance improvements for me Not many people did the flash with our engine.
Since you have a 350 like me. Note your performance improvements for me
Not many people did the flash with our engine.
09-13-2010, 02:21 PM
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Now that I think about it, it may be 91 that I've been seeing and not 93. Not sure. I'm down in Tampa now though, and I've only refueled once, so idk what it is down here; I'll have to check.
09-13-2010, 05:24 PM
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Our cars are designed for 95 octane 91 minimum. You may not notice any difference, but using 89 could have long term damages to your engine.
But it's up to you. I just want to throw some information so you know.
09-13-2010, 06:50 PM
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"The octane rating of gasoline tells you how much the fuel can be compressed before it spontaneously ignites. When gas ignites by compression rather than because of the spark from the spark plug, it causes knocking in the engine. Knocking can damage an engine, so it is not something you want to have happening. Lower-octane gas (like "regular" 87-octane gasoline) can handle the least amount of compression before igniting."
Our cars are designed for 95 octane 91 minimum. You may not notice any difference, but using 89 could have long term damages to your engine.
But it's up to you. I just want to throw some information so you know.
Our cars are designed for 95 octane 91 minimum. You may not notice any difference, but using 89 could have long term damages to your engine.
But it's up to you. I just want to throw some information so you know.
09-13-2010, 07:00 PM
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I know the risk, I guess you could say. Like I said, when I get the ECU tune, I'll definitely start using 93/91 (forget what's around here). I'm actually going to start doing so now. But again, like I said earlier, my dad's done it for years and not had any averse effects, so he told me to do the same, and he pays for my gas, so...
09-13-2010, 10:48 PM
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It's ok, I am similar. 20 hrs old. With daddy paying for my gas. I feel no shame in it. We all drive the same car, and we all love it, I hope.
