Yes, it's definitely possible. I know some guys over on the 203 forum @ benzworld that did it. The reality is that for the money, you'd be better of selling your pre-2005 model and buying a 2005+ model.
Yes, it's definitely possible. I know some guys over on the 203 forum @ benzworld that did it. The reality is that for the money, you'd be better of selling your pre-2005 model and buying a 2005+ model.
hahaha thanks for the info rudeney, but i cant sell this car though coz i just bought it and in my country (indonesia) its really rare to find an clk.you can take it as collector items in indonesia, only few people want to buy it coz it coupe. can you help me about ordering those part ? my trims was silver with motives (the avantgarde trims) i cant describe it lol.
Didnt dyno install the facelift console in his 320? If so you might want to send him a PM
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Yep he (Dyno) did. I hope you can find the thermatic used, I just had to replace itin my wife's C class - god almnighty is i ever expensive here...
thanks all for the info
can you do me last favor? where i can order this part? and can you help me about the part name/number ?
sorry for a lot of questions
thanks all for the info
can you do me last favor? where i can order this part? and can you help me about the part name/number ?
sorry for a lot of questions
If I remember correctly Dyno managed to get his hands on the entire console with climate control etc... I think he purchased it off ebay.
I myself was interested in doing the facelift as well, checked ebay everyday for 2 months but nothing came up and eventually forgot about it.
reviving an old thread rather than starting a new one.....too bad you can't "tag" someone in a post, as it would be great to get Wes Dynomite's input here. I'm looking at a digital HVAC control to replace my analog, or, as the seller put it, thermotronic to replace my thermatic. It comes out of a 2009 and my CLK is 2006. Parts.com says that the 2009 dash control unit "Fits years ( 07-09 )" so I checked with my very helpful Service Advisor at the dealership (I do just enough service there to foster this supportive relationship.) He says it will work, but the seller offered me this friendly pre-purchase advice, in his best English, which I don't fully understand:
-climate control make errors in the system, because:
-active carbon filter not installes in your car
-air ventil motor fault (not all installed, your car have 2, climatronic cars have 6)
-residual heat groove fault (your car never have).
Warning: the climate is then on, when the red knob is on. No more a/c off, turn a/c rest on.
This info came from germany friend, he have a CLK 2005 model instaled. He say, this part no have the latest software and hardware version. On climate control the right big ring have no mor function, while you can't make different air temperature and different air blowing place. the air come in the car, where sign the left big ring shows. I hope you understand that, sorry, my english not perfect, a litlle poor.
Now, I get the part that it might throw errors due to the missing parts, and may need coding at dealer, but does anyone know what he means by "No more a/c off, turn a/c rest on" and "the right big ring have no mor function, while you can't make different air temperature and different air blowing place"?
I know three things that definitely won't work because you don't have those functions in your vehicle: The active charcoal filter, the "REST" function, and the ability to control the air flow direction on the passenger side separately from the driver side. I know a lot of guys who did this in their W203's and it works fine with no error - you just don't get those features.
By the way, why do you want the upgraded controls? Just for looks? That's all you will get since those optional features won't work. Personally, I prefer rotary dials over push-buttons for adjusting temperature and fan speed. I find that when driving, it's much easier to grab a wheel and turn it than to find the right button in a row of ten and tap it several times. But that's just me.
I know three things that definitely won't work because you don't have those functions in your vehicle: The active charcoal filter, the "REST" function, and the ability to control the air flow direction on the passenger side separately from the driver side. I know a lot of guys who did this in their W203's and it works fine with no error - you just don't get those features.
Thanks Rodney; I appreciate your first-hand knowledge (and your English, lol!) What is the "REST function," btw? Is that something I have now that I'll lose? And are we saying that whatever I set on the left is what will happen on the passenger side too, both air flow direction and temp?
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By the way, why do you want the upgraded controls? Just for looks? That's all you will get since those optional features won't work. Personally, I prefer rotary dials over push-buttons for adjusting temperature and fan speed. I find that when driving, it's much easier to grab a wheel and turn it than to find the right button in a row of ten and tap it several times. But that's just me.
Absolutely for looks! Admittedly, I'm superficial, but it's not like putting an AMG sticker on the car, IMHO. My wife always gets the better-equipped Benz in our household, and this seems a simple way to jazz mine up, for under $300, plus I'm replacing my headunit (for the third time....long story) so I'll have the control unit out anyway.....
"REST" is a function that allows the heater to continue to operate after you shut off the engine. If you are leaving the vehicle briefly, for an hour or so, you can enable REST and it will continue to keep the cabin warm from using the residual engine heat still available to the heater system. This feature was discontinued later one (my 2007 does not have it).
Yes, whatever airflow you set for the driver is what the passenger will get. The passenger's airflow controls won't do anything, and neither will the carbon filter button in the middle of the passenger's airflow control. The passenger's temperature control setting should still function normally.
[REST] Will work if your car is built within the specs of the part you buy. Thermatronic head units are VIN specific to Build Date for them to work out of the gate - spot on. You will see many many versions, for what reason I do not know with HVAC HUs. You can code the car to operate [REST] if you have the auxiliary water pump near the coolant reservoir.
You WILL have error codes that will appear on STAR. Thermatic does not have 1.) Solar Sensor, 2.) Humidity / Dew / Smog Sensor 3.) 2 more PWM controlled stepper motors in the HVAC system. 4.) Charcoal filter.
To summarize here – and in other posts (I posted a bunch in the w203 and in the w203///AMG Forum) the right wheel will not work, you can not “gain hardware features you simply do not have ((Unless you add them)), [REST] can be added and they can swap in and work.
Plugs and clips are the same – ensure you release the locking tab and secure it correctly – and try not to cross thread / cut new threads with the large self tapping torx screws!
(IF you have Aluminum “look” trim – be warned – it will mar, dent, scratch and be damaged a lot faster and easier than it should!)
Glad I found this thread. I was looking on ebay for a digital display because it looked cooler... now looking at it though I don't want errors and I think Rodney hit in on the head as far as turning the dial is easier... I just tried this on the car and then went to my wifes car and without even realizing it I like being able to turn dials and not take my head off the road type deal...
Oh well.. if it weren't for errors or the possibility of things not working. I've read where some people no longer can control the air flow or ac with a digital one, and it's a hit or miss if it will work... I don't want to spend $200+ for something that might not work.
I tried to retrofit the digital luxury climate in my S203 with "wood" trim. I've got the luxury climate control out of a facelifted CLK, but it was clasped with torx screws and my climate control (the old rotary knobs) are fitted with just clips on the trim. Is there a difference between W203's and the wagons?
PS: I tried the digital control and it is working just fine.
There is no difference in the W230 coupe, wagon or sedan in this part, but there is a difference between the W203 and W209. They look the same, but aren't - they mount differently.
I am looking on the internet for the right part for my car. However, every unit i find have that fitting ( with the torx screws) even the non luxury unit of the facelift. The ONLY unit that would fit as far as i can see is the pre-facelifted luxury clima control.
Mine mounts look like this ebay offer. I am trying to fit this. Looking forward suggestions guys.
EDIT: After more reading i think the possibility is to "upgrade" to the prefacelifted luxury climate OR to replace the whole trim, essentially facelifting the console also ( which will be hard to find the buttons for, cuz rear wiper... and new wiring). I cannot send personal messages to the people, who actually did this upgrade to ask for some more info.
Any help will be appreciated and if it works out i will be also writing a detailed guide on How to DIY.
You'd have to "facelift" the entire center stack to use that. And then you'd have an additional issue in that the facelift was more than skin deep - some of the CAN bus protocols changed s othere are other parts that have to be changed out as well. I recall a guy with a W230 C-Class that did this, but it costs him thousands of dollars in parts and much research, plus access to SDS.
Okay I understand that it looks nicer, that is the point, but! The model of the climate control you have is with lots of functions and they won't work. The model a1698301485 got the same functions as mine a2038301785 ! The only button I do not recognize is the OFF button, all other functions are same as mine. How ever there is something else the connectors of the digital one are 3 and mine got only 2 at the back side. That is why I am asking if is possible to install the mercedes A/B class model on mine car, do i need extensions or it's impossible ?
