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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 02:27 AM
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My 2008 CLK550 has a + and - setting on the shifter, as well the usual C and S mode switch.

Does anyone have a simple explanation, please, if one exists for the use of the + - function. The owner's manual is somewhat fuzzy with the explanation.

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The + - function is for "manual shifting". + is for higher gear and - for lower gear.
If you hold the gearstick 1-2sec on - it will shift down to the lowest gear possible.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mikata
The + - function is for "manual shifting". + is for higher gear and - for lower gear.
If you hold the gearstick 1-2sec on - it will shift down to the lowest gear possible.
Thank you for your post.

So, the shifter +- option augments the paddle shifters or acts in the same way, but using the shifter to change gear..?

Sorry to be so dim.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Nanoflex
Thank you for your post.

So, the shifter +- option augments the paddle shifters or acts in the same way, but using the shifter to change gear..?

Sorry to be so dim.
Exactly!
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mikata
Exactly!
Thanks again...

It seemed odd to have a shift option with the paddles AND with the stick...

I guess my mind is too linear

God Jul
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nanoflex
Thanks again...

It seemed odd to have a shift option with the paddles AND with the stick...

I guess my mind is too linear

God Jul
You are right in your thinking but older CLKs 2003-2004-5(?) dont have the paddles so we can only shift from the stick

Where are you from?

God Jul!
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 03:13 AM
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You are right in your thinking but older CLKs 2003-2004-5(?) dont have the paddles so we can only shift from the stick

Where are you from?

God Jul!
Ah...my former fiancee is Swedish...

Karlstad....she, not I
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 03:23 AM
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Ah...my former fiancee is Swedish...

Karlstad....she, not I
Ah cool
They have some nice ladies in Karlstad.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nanoflex
My 2008 CLK550 has a + and - setting on the shifter, as well the usual C and S mode switch.

Does anyone have a simple explanation, please, if one exists for the use of the + - function. The owner's manual is somewhat fuzzy with the explanation.

thanks
+ & - , u mean Tiptronic Or Touch-Shift!

for ur car, u have the 7 speed gearbox... (tones of threads here to read about that)

do a google search on Tiptronic & u'll get tones of stuff online.. this is implemented in gearboxes since 2000/2001 (assuming).

it means shifting Up(+) or Down(-) gears without the use of a clutch
(example below is on 5 speed gearbox)
if u r in Drive "D" > Shift Down > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1

Up Shifting is the reverse of Down Shifting

For instance, u r going down a hill and u need to set a bigger gear, Ur in D mode & need to go to 2nd Gear, all u need to do is
* Keep Pressing the Shifter to the right side (-) till u get "2" on ur cluster screen (near ur ODO meter)


Dont worry about hurting ur gearbox/engine, for safety reason if u forgot ur in 1st gear & accelerated to the red line & forgot to change, the car would change for u.. just so u don't end up with a burned transmission or engine at the end of the day.

so it like driving a manual without the clutch and just nudging the stick either left or right for changing gears...

what did u use to drive before ur Merc? was it a manual or a normal auto?
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by boull
+ & - , u mean Tiptronic Or Touch-Shift!

for ur car, u have the 7 speed gearbox... (tones of threads here to read about that)

do a google search on Tiptronic & u'll get tones of stuff online.. this is implemented in gearboxes since 2000/2001 (assuming).

it means shifting Up(+) or Down(-) gears without the use of a clutch
(example below is on 5 speed gearbox)
if u r in Drive "D" > Shift Down > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1

Up Shifting is the reverse of Down Shifting

For instance, u r going down a hill and u need to set a bigger gear, Ur in D mode & need to go to 2nd Gear, all u need to do is
* Keep Pressing the Shifter to the right side (-) till u get "2" on ur cluster screen (near ur ODO meter)


Dont worry about hurting ur gearbox/engine, for safety reason if u forgot ur in 1st gear & accelerated to the red line & forgot to change, the car would change for u.. just so u don't end up with a burned transmission or engine at the end of the day.

so it like driving a manual without the clutch and just nudging the stick either left or right for changing gears...

what did u use to drive before ur Merc? was it a manual or a normal auto?
Thanks for the post.

I had an Infiniti before and it had the clutchless shift using the stick.

With my 550, the presence of the paddles complicated my thinking.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Nanoflex
Thanks for the post.

I had an Infiniti before and it had the clutchless shift using the stick.

With my 550, the presence of the paddles complicated my thinking.
great 2 cars.. Infiniti & Mercs...

well make sure to know how to turn "On" dyno mode & that would give a new experience to ur tiptronic driving .... Good Luck
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by boull
great 2 cars.. Infiniti & Mercs...

well make sure to know how to turn "On" dyno mode & that would give a new experience to ur tiptronic driving .... Good Luck
does using dyne mode not void the warranty... and can't they detect that..?

Mine has done only 3,700 miles
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 05:29 AM
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Don't mess with dyno mode - you can do big damage. Another warning. Doing donuts in dyno mode invariably leads to power steering pump failure - go figure??? I have yet to be given a plausible technical explanation for this. Yet time & time again it happens.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Nanoflex
does using dyne mode not void the warranty... and can't they detect that..?

Mine has done only 3,700 miles
Dyno mode is an option of which u can Turn On/Off the safety features of the car.
When Dyno Mode is On, ESP & ABS is turned off.. that is why u would see your instrument cluster lighting up with different warning signals... Dyno Mode would give u the edge of leaving a green light with a trail of rubber behind u & unleashing the drift 550 monster.

just make sure to turn the Dyno Mode OFF when u go for an inspection at the dealer so that the car would go back to normal... i guess they cant know if ur playing with that option ...

nevertheless, be carefull when u r in Dyno mode, the car has no safety features on... so dont go Dyno mode on the highway doing 140 Miles per hour and trying to curve a 45 degree angle corner! that wouldn't end up in a fun way

Dyno Mode On:
- Make sure you have the default screen cluster showing ur temp or Speed as a start.
- put ur ignition key & turn one click only (u will get the srs and brake light on i guess only)
- directly press 3 times consecutively the "R" stick (located to ur right of the instrument cluster).
- The cluster would show the Battery Voltage
- scroll down & u would see the Dyno Mode.

Good LucK!
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Don't mess with dyno mode - you can do big damage. Another warning. Doing donuts in dyno mode invariably leads to power steering pump failure - go figure??? I have yet to be given a plausible technical explanation for this. Yet time & time again it happens.
I read some of his threads.... This guy "Glyn M Ruck" seriously knows what he is talking about .. So do listen to him !
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Don't mess with dyno mode - you can do big damage. Another warning. Doing donuts in dyno mode invariably leads to power steering pump failure - go figure??? I have yet to be given a plausible technical explanation for this. Yet time & time again it happens.
I appreciate your comments...

I am past the "crazy" part of my life..!

It comes to us all, one day
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 05:46 AM
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BTW - All non AMG flash Boxes with S & C pull away in 1st in S mode & 2nd in C or comfort mode (old winter mode on early 722 series 5 speeds)

From the 722.9 technical training manual:

S (Sport) first gear start
C (Comfort) or E (Economy) second gear start, earlier upshifts and later down shifts. Auto default to E on Blue Efficiency models.

Note: Transmission will start in first gear if any of the following apply.
1st gear manually selected.
3/4 to full throttle applied from stationery start.
Engine cold (catalytic converter warm up)

Now - to precis the following: Certain high torque diesel models will pull away in first gear in both modes to protect the torque converter.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by boull
Dyno mode is an option of which u can Turn On/Off the safety features of the car.!
It also cancels some of the engine & transmission protection modes. Selecting dyno mode is stored on an EPROM. There is limited storage capability. The dealer can detect it if it is recent & still stored with the Star DAS.
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Originally Posted by Nanoflex
I appreciate your comments...

I am past the "crazy" part of my life..!

It comes to us all, one day
Indeed! I did some real dumb things in cars in my early years & have grenaded my fair share of Alfa engines, racing engines etc.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
It also cancels some of the engine & transmission protection modes. Selecting dyno mode is stored on an EPROM. There is limited storage capability. The dealer can detect it if it is recent & still stored with the Star DAS.
That was my information...

Mercedes are not going to willingly pick up the bill for someone wantonly trashing the vehicle.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nanoflex
Thanks again...

It seemed odd to have a shift option with the paddles AND with the stick...

I guess my mind is too linear

God Jul
Not all 550s have the paddles, but all have the manual capability on the shifter. Those with wood steering wheels have no paddles.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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Not all 550s have the paddles, but all have the manual capability on the shifter. Those with wood steering wheels have no paddles.
Ah....now it makes more sense...thank you.

I wish the owner's manual would have been as easy to comprehend
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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Shift +/-

Originally Posted by Nanoflex
My 2008 CLK550 has a + and - setting on the shifter, as well the usual C and S mode switch.

Does anyone have a simple explanation, please, if one exists for the use of the + - function. The owner's manual is somewhat fuzzy with the explanation.

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Minus = shift down to a lower gear (provided car is in an allowable range, dependent on year/model. Example: cannot shift into 1st at 75 mph). Mainly used as engine-braking.

Plus = Shift up to normal, where the transmission would be at the current speed [before it was monkeyed with ]
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nanoflex
Ah....now it makes more sense...thank you.

I wish the owner's manual would have been as easy to comprehend
Owner's manuals try to cover gazillions of subjects and do few of them well. I bought my 2007 CLK 550 as a CPO, and the factory spec sheet for the vehicle said it had paddle shifters. However, it doesn't - apparently because it has the wood steering wheel. In the early days wooden wheels weren't available with paddle shifters. I understand later (2009) you get a wood wheel with paddles.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by brbhan
Minus = shift down to a lower gear (provided car is in an allowable range, dependent on year/model. Example: cannot shift into 1st at 75 mph). Mainly used as engine-braking.

Plus = Shift up to normal, where the transmission would be at the current speed [before it was monkeyed with ]
Not that I would attempt to do anything stupid with my transmission...

is there a limited to prevent inadvertent gear selection that could be catastrophic..?
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Limited = limiter?
All automatics, as far back as my memory serves, have this limiter designed in as a safety measure. So, even if you shift down into 2nd at 90mph, the tranny will refuse to obey until a safe speed range met. By the same token, later autos wil not shift up until the road speed meets the designed-in specs. A similar safety device is 'built' into the Cruise Control wherein it will not connect until, say 25 mph - also wired into the rear brake-lamps switch.
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