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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 08:39 PM
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All good. Working for me now.

By the way, for anyone interested, I bought Shell ATF 134 at a local (Tampa) distributor today for $65/case of 12 quarts. I suspect they'll even be open to haggling, if you're so inclined. Best deal I could find online was Parts.com for $6.50/qt, not including shipping. Obviously the Shell distributor is the way to go.
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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wodeshed
By the way, for anyone interested, I bought Shell ATF 134 at a local (Tampa) distributor today for $65/case of 12 quarts. I suspect they'll even be open to haggling, if you're so inclined. Best deal I could find online was Parts.com for $6.50/qt, not including shipping. Obviously the Shell distributor is the way to go.
$6.50US is great, compared to MB's $25CAN.
I have found a place in Canada which sells these Shell ATF for similar price. I am still a bit nervous mixing Shell and MB fluids because I only do pan flush. I will probably bite the bullet next time, this forum have not steered me wrong yet.

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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 07:58 AM
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I hear you on MB prices. I bought a genuine Mercedes valve cover gasket online at AutohausAZ.com for $14, but must have misaligned when putting back in place. Had to redo the job, and bought the identical gasket at a MB dealer. Price for the same part at the dealer was $54.
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 10:33 PM
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The $14 (each) valve cover gasket at AutohausAZ is the aftermarket Victor Reinz brand, and these simply don't work. They are too thin and will leak. AutohazAZ does sell genuine MBZ valve cover gaskets, for $26 each.
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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 03:03 AM
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Yep prices outside the US are sometimes not pretty. Valve cover gasket was NZ$110 (US$86) here for both from the dealer. ATF is NZ$52 (US$40) from dealer.
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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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Rodney, you're probably right on that. For that plug/valve cover job I bought some parts from AutohausAZ and some from Pelican Parts. I may have confused who I bought the valve gaskets from. My recollection, however, is that I got the gaskets from AutohausAZ on sale for $14 for the gen-u-ine Mercedes. At any rate I'm absolutely certain that my gaskets were the real thing. Believe it or not, I actually listen to the advice on this forum!

Addendum: Just went to my online orders file to check, and dammit you're right. What I bought from Autohaus was the $26 Mercedes gasket, and it wasn't on sale. I must have confused it with the transmission gasket/filter kit I found for $14. I ordered that before reading that the dealer part was better, so I'd be interested to know if you believe that is in fact true.

Damn...memory is going, I guess.

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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 08:46 PM
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This is why I prefer MB parts. I am not a DIY person and it's a real hassle to have to pay twice (labor) and go twice to get something fixed; especailly this is my daily commute.

On the other hand, it is irresponsible for AutohausAZ to sell something that does not work.

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Originally Posted by Wodeshed

Addendum: Just went to my online orders file to check, and dammit you're right. What I bought from Autohaus was the $26 Mercedes gasket, and it wasn't on sale. I must have confused it with the transmission gasket/filter kit I found for $14. I ordered that before reading that the dealer part was better, so I'd be interested to know if you believe that is in fact true.

Damn...memory is going, I guess.
I think I used an aftermarket transmission pan gasket as I've seen no reports on problems with those. And I always contend that a poor memory is good thing - can you imagine how boring it would be to remember everything?
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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mis3
This is why I prefer MB parts. I am not a DIY person and it's a real hassle to have to pay twice (labor) and go twice to get something fixed; especailly this is my daily commute.

On the other hand, it is irresponsible for AutohausAZ to sell something that does not work.
I am not sure why the Victor Reinz gaskets have this problem. I am wondering if maybe MBZ changed the valve covers to require a larger diameter gasket. Anyhow, AutohausAZ simply sells parts and passes on the manufacturer's specs on compatibility . I didn't bother to tell them they didn't work. I wonder if anyone has?
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Here's the entire Merc Auto Trans Service Kit (# MERCTRANSKIT) for $91.62 (w/ FREE SHIPPING). Includes all... gasket, filter, fluid, plus new drain plug and gasket. Fantastic warranty. Guaranteed fitment and guarantee the part, for it's entire life on top of their unlimited returns.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...t-merctranskit



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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudeney
The $14 (each) valve cover gasket at AutohausAZ is the aftermarket Victor Reinz brand, and these simply don't work. They are too thin and will leak. AutohazAZ does sell genuine MBZ valve cover gaskets, for $26 each.
Valve Cover Gaskets @ FCP Euro...

https://www.fcpeuro.com/Mercedes~Ben...30&m=20&page=1
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudeney
I am not sure why the Victor Reinz gaskets have this problem. I am wondering if maybe MBZ changed the valve covers to require a larger diameter gasket. Anyhow, AutohausAZ simply sells parts and passes on the manufacturer's specs on compatibility . I didn't bother to tell them they didn't work. I wonder if anyone has?
With all due respect, it's not up to you to tell the vendor if a part that they sell would fit your car. Since they are selling the parts, they should know. It's one thing if one parts is more durable or better quality than another parts, there should be no question on the fitment.

I order parts by entering the information of my car (make, year, model, etc) and rely the expertise of the vendor to pull the parts which fit my car.

Lets say I order Merc Auto Trans Service Kit as suggested by Syfi. What do I do if the pan gasket does not fit after I drop the pan? Yes, I am sure that the vendor would exchange the parts but when, how..and what do I do in the meantime.....

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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mis3
what do I do in the meantime.....
You go and get one from the dealer.

I can understand spark plugs, ignition leads and a whole bunch of other things but as you already mentioned, these are items best bought from the dealer. They are well priced and you are guaranteed they will work. They may cost double the aftermarket options but they are still cheap enough that no one here should be overly concerned.

Its like most things if someone buys a crappy part, its not very expensive, it doesn't work, they then buy the genuine part.... someone has to tell the vendor their part is sub-standard or they will never know. Of course they might not care either.

I double check any part numbers etc when I buy from anyone other than the dealer. You would be surprised how often their database and expertise are terrible even when you explain it to them.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Prices in Canadian dealerships are not reasonable at all. Usually, they are 50-200% more than their counterparts is US. Of course, I am talking about MB parts.

I always like to give fuel filter as an example. I changed mine last year and I first called the local dealership, they wanted $145CAN. I checked online and bought the same MB fuel filter for $43US. The exchange rate at the time was less than 10%.

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Not .14 transmission fluid

Originally Posted by syfi
Here's the entire Merc Auto Trans Service Kit (# MERCTRANSKIT) for $91.62 (w/ FREE SHIPPING). Includes all... gasket, filter, fluid, plus new drain plug and gasket. Fantastic warranty. Guaranteed fitment and guarantee the part, for it's entire life on top of their unlimited returns.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...t-merctranskit



If you look closer the transmission fluid corresponds to the 236.10 spec which is no longer recommended by MB having been (quickly) superseded by 236.14. I would pass... I would get the Shell ATF 134 or another fluid that MB currently recommends as meeting the .14 spec. (See above in this thread.) If you need the other parts go to sponsor http://www.mymercedesparts.com for a substantial discount if you are in NA. They are part of an MB dealership and they sell genuine MB parts only. I have been doing business with them for years.

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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 01:08 PM
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If you look closer the transmission fluid corresponds to the 236.10 spec which is no longer recommended by MB having been (quickly) superseded by 236.14. I would pass...
Yes, I would definitely go with the new ATF. I started this thread because I could not find 236.10 fluid and was concerned about the compatibility of 236.14.

I finally did pan flushes with 236.14 and I can confirm that the new fluid works very well with our 722.6 transmissions.
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If you look closer the transmission fluid corresponds to the 236.10 spec which is no longer recommended by MB having been (quickly) superseded by 236.14. I would pass... I would get the Shell ATF 134 or another fluid that MB currently recommends as meeting the .14 spec. (See above in this thread.)
From Rudy @ Speedriven:
These cars, especially the SRT's need a fluid that is approved for the 236.10 spec. Mobil1 ATF is NOT on the list and from my personal observations, not a fluid I would recommend. I won't even recommend the newest 236.14 fluid for our cars as Mercedes only wanted to cut down the different part numbers on their shelves and since most people driving these cars could really care less if their performance is slightly degraded as a result. For most, it goes unnoticed. I for one can tell you first hand the 236.10 fluid shifts firmer and more predictably than the 236.14.
Our Owners manual says to use Shell 3403 ATF.
Here's how the specs go...

236.10 - MB P/N 001-989-21-03-10 - Designed for the 722.6 5-speeds in our cars and will produce the firmest and most accurate shifts.

236.12 - MB P/N 001-989-45-03-10 - Designed for the 722.9 7-speeds and MB also used it in the 5-speeds to reduce the number fluids they had to stock.
236-14 - MB P/N 001-989-68-03-10 - Redesigned fluid for the 722.9 7-speeds to mitigate customer complaints of firm shifting.

I use Amsoil (Product Code: ATF) in the 722.6 with great results. It is speced for 236.10. They make a different one for 236.12 & 236.14 which goes by Product Code: OTL, so I would think there is some kind of difference between the specs.

If you need the other parts go to sponsor http://www.mymercedesparts.com for a substantial discount if you are in NA. They are part of an MB dealership and they sell genuine MB parts only. I have been doing business with them for years.

FCP Euro will price match any price from any online MB dealer and besides guaranteeing the fit also offers a Lifetime Warranty & free shipping over $49.



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Meyle transmission pan gasket and filter kit: $14
12 Qts Shell ATF 134 (1 case): $65
Drain plug and gasket: Minimal

Total: $79, maybe $89, and you get the new spec fluid.
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From Rudy @ Speedriven: Quote:
These cars, especially the SRT's need a fluid that is approved for the 236.10 spec. Mobil1 ATF is NOT on the list and from my personal observations, not a fluid I would recommend. I won't even recommend the newest 236.14 fluid for our cars as Mercedes only wanted to cut down the different part numbers on their shelves and since most people driving these cars could really care less if their performance is slightly degraded as a result. For most, it goes unnoticed. I for one can tell you first hand the 236.10 fluid shifts firmer and more predictably than the 236.14.


Monsieur Ruck may have a word or two in response to that.
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Let's not revisit the debate of 236.10 and 236.14 again. For those interested, please read this thread from Page 1.

I put in 236.14 and never look back.

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Let's not revisit the debate of 236.10 and 236.14 again. For those interested, please read this thread from Page 1.
I put in 236.14 and never look back.
No argument here. Just stating that I'll only use the fluid that's spec for the 722.6 which is 236.10. The .12 & .14 were specced for the 722.9 7-speed which is a whole different animal.
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Here we go again.

I also used the new spec fluid from the dealer. It is backwards compatible and an improvement on the old fluid. Car shifts great.
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I just changed my filter and fluid at our last tech session on my 1996 SL 500. I asked the MB master Tech about AT transmission fluids.He told me that he uses nothing but MB recommended fluids which is the ATF 134 on my 722.6 transmission.The price you pay is insignificant when you change the fluid every 5 years or 40,000 miles.He has been a Master Tech for 25 years.I don't argue with someone who knows everything there is to know about the 722.6 transmission.Avoding problems is my #1 goal.I also use Mobil 1 0W-40 Synthetic oil as is recommended.
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Just finished reading the entire thread and feel better for doing so. Going with the .14
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