over rich fuel mixture condition
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Hi, we had a very cold weather today for Chicago at about 1 and after work when I got off the train it was about 3. I have about 8 miles drive home and I stopped at the store on the way back. Once I got to the garage, I backed up and getting out of the car I could smell exhaust/ gas. I never smelled that before so got alarmed. There was no smell inside the car or the trunk. I could not find any fuel leak. I let the car sit for maybe 40 min and checked back. I could still smell it, a bit less and no leaks I could locate.
I checked the air filter cover and it was sitting fine. Is it possible that due to the extreme cold and short drive I experienced over rich fuel mixture condition?
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Darius
I checked the air filter cover and it was sitting fine. Is it possible that due to the extreme cold and short drive I experienced over rich fuel mixture condition?
Thanks
Darius
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You will be running winter fuel Chicago which has more light ends so you will be more inclined to notice the smell. Presume the gas cap is on properly. It should trigger an EECS warning.
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Thanks, yes the cap is fine, no errors. Before that I drove the car on Sunday morning with 15 F temps for maybe 6 miles for a mountain bike ride on the local single tracks. No smell then and the car was outside for the 2.5 hour ride.
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A common problem is leaks from the seal rings on top of the tank where the fuel sender and fuel pump attach. Cold weather makes them shrink and they can leak fumes, usually very strong under the rear wheel wells. The parts are less than $40 for both of tem, and changing them is fairly easy - remove the seats, remove the access covers, unscrew the seal clamps, replace the seals.
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I thought of that Rudney but the OP's car has the old bottle jar caps & not the newer circular clamps. Have you seen this problem with the old rings? I've only experienced it with the clamps. We don't experience your huge temperature swings.
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well I went to the garage this morning and can't smell much anymore. I'm working from home today but maybe I will take the car out for a short drive and see whats going on. By noon it should be warmer at 21
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I will see today if the smell is going to be there. Its a bit warmer here in Chicagoland today. On the train back now so will know in an hour.
I will have to google a bit to find some details on the seal rings.
I filled up the tank two days earlier and only put on maybe 20 miles so the tank was almost full
I will have to google a bit to find some details on the seal rings.
Cold weather and a full tank of gas is a big contributor.
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Glyn, are the seal rings the Sectional sealing rings (item 12 and 14) shown in the PDF in your old post here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/4781093-post6.html
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https://mbworld.org/forums/4781093-post6.html
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