STS Turbo kit $4,000
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STS Turbo kit $4,000
I tripped over this,while looking up GM Truck stuff. Any potential guys? http://www.ststurbo.com/home
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You can slap a turbo on anything. The most important part to getting it running right is engine management and fuel. You could put a turbo on a NA 55 easy and run low boost. No more than 5-8psi. But the compression ratio of the NA engine would hurt it for high boost applications. I am still surprised that no one has tried it yet. With all the money being spent on our cars for bolt on stuff, a turbo kit would be a pretty easy install but would require alot of R&D to do.
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i know this might sound liek a newbie question, but I always read about the diff between superchargers and turbochargers, and every place i read about them they become extremely bias about the other. In your opinion whats sets them apart besides the way they work the air(supers work off of belts and turbos off of exhuast stream). Brabus and etc do superchargers right(or wrong cause often i can be wrong)? What companies do turbos?
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I found it interesting,because of its rear location. If in the future a compatible piggyback(ECU) system can be found,then the boost can be increased. If a unit location problem doesn't exist,I'd think that an experienced exhaust person,could do the plumbing. The GTO dyno #'s are at 4 psi. http://www.ststurbo.com/gto_dyno
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I have seen a setup like that. Doesnt make much sense to me. You really want the turbo close to the exhaust manifold but i guess it works. Also would hate for something to hit all that piping and turbo while driving.
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Does anybody have an aftermarket turbocharged Benz, and if not then why? I've only seen superchargers. Just wondering why there are no turbos out there. I think a CLK55 turbocharged would be awesome because you'll still be able to move off the line and once the car gets going it'll fly. Then again, I have no experience with turbochargers. Hopefully someone can answer my questions. Thanks.
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I dont know anyone that offers a aftermarket turbo kit for MBs.
I think the main reason is because of cost to research and develope. Mixing and matching turbos, etc. But I still think the main reason is because of Engine management and because the NA engines have a high compression. I would think just to make it work you would need a MOtec or something.
The best bet to me would be to get a 55k engine and turbo it since the compression is already setup for boost. Again though the hard part would be matching fuel, turbos and engine management.
I think the main reason is because of cost to research and develope. Mixing and matching turbos, etc. But I still think the main reason is because of Engine management and because the NA engines have a high compression. I would think just to make it work you would need a MOtec or something.
The best bet to me would be to get a 55k engine and turbo it since the compression is already setup for boost. Again though the hard part would be matching fuel, turbos and engine management.
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What's the max boost one could run,without messing with the ECU? Or,are there other things still involved? Did the HPS Gen I,or the new cheaper Kleemann version need any ECU changes,to run correctly? Another issue,is where the oil filter adapter hooks up,for its cooling lines. I'm gonna just give these guys a call and get some info. I just hope that they don't start laughing and hang up on me,lol.
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What's the max boost one could run,without messing with the ECU? Or,are there other things still involved? Did the HPS Gen I,or the new cheaper Kleemann version need any ECU changes,to run correctly? Another issue,is where the oil filter adapter hooks up,for its cooling lines. I'm gonna just give these guys a call and get some info. I just hope that they don't start laughing and hang up on me,lol.
If you run low enough boost, which is what this turbo will give you, I don't think you would need any new software, just an FMU(rising rate fuel pressure regulator). If you wanted to you may be able to turn to someone like Powerchips to do a custom chip for you. These turbos are designed to reach full boost by 3000 rpm.
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Do you recall the cost of universal kit,I didn't see it listed? The underbody plumbing doesn't look like a big deal. The engine bay pipe looks more difficult,to run. Although we do have a large empty space front left. Also,the air-box assembly would be gone. I figure that the kleemann jr, is running about 4psi. It's been some time,since I've looked underneath,so does anybody feel that there's a turbo location problem? If all looks good,is the only remaining issue,the oil cooling lines,for the turbo?
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Do you recall the cost of universal kit,I didn't see it listed? The underbody plumbing doesn't look like a big deal. The engine bay pipe looks more difficult,to run. Although we do have a large empty space front left. Also,the air-box assembly would be gone. I figure that the kleemann jr, is running about 4psi. It's been some time,since I've looked underneath,so does anybody feel that there's a turbo location problem? If all looks good,is the only remaining issue,the oil cooling lines,for the turbo?
I never really go into the discussion on the oil cooling lines but I don't see it as being much of a problem. The theory is very sound, I just don't have anybody in my area to do the work. You may have more options in Chi-Town.
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I actually looked into the remote turbo for my CLK 55 when I lived in Jacksonville, FLand the shop told me he could do it but everything would be a tight fit. Then he wanted a crazy amount of money. I am looking for a shop in the Dallas, TX area to ask them about the remote setup. I did find a shop in Houston TX that said the would design a turbo system for about 8K, but they are about 4 to 5 hours away and that is hard for me to make that working 6 days a week. I know that no shop is offering a turbo setup at this time. If anyone has seen a shop on the internet that would do the cusom fab work in this area let me know, Thanks.
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I actually looked into the remote turbo for my CLK 55 when I lived in Jacksonville, FLand the shop told me he could do it but everything would be a tight fit. Then he wanted a crazy amount of money. I am looking for a shop in the Dallas, TX area to ask them about the remote setup. I did find a shop in Houston TX that said the would design a turbo system for about 8K, but they are about 4 to 5 hours away and that is hard for me to make that working 6 days a week. I know that no shop is offering a turbo setup at this time. If anyone has seen a shop on the internet that would do the cusom fab work in this area let me know, Thanks.
Try JOTECH RACING in Garland, TX. They've got an MB in their gallery. I really don't understand why people turn to MB specialists only for these types of upgrades. (IMO) these guys are like any other reputable company out there selling and installing superchargers or turbos. Why not go to Jackson Racing for superchargers or Turbonetics for turbos? After all these companies deal strictly with what they are selling and probably have more knowledge about force induction and can probably fabricate a one off system for you just as good if not better then the MB ONLY shops at half the price. Don't get me wrong here, these guys do sell quality parts but for prices that I just think are really ridiculuos.
Hope I didn't offend anyone....
Just my 2 cents.
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01 CLK 55
Originally Posted by CH2iS*
Try JOTECH RACING in Garland, TX. They've got an MB in their gallery. I really don't understand why people turn to MB specialists only for these types of upgrades. (IMO) these guys are like any other reputable company out there selling and installing superchargers or turbos. Why not go to Jackson Racing for superchargers or Turbonetics for turbos? After all these companies deal strictly with what they are selling and probably have more knowledge about force induction and can probably fabricate a one off system for you just as good if not better then the MB ONLY shops at half the price. Don't get me wrong here, these guys do sell quality parts but for prices that I just think are really ridiculuos.
Hope I didn't offend anyone....
Just my 2 cents.
Hope I didn't offend anyone....
Just my 2 cents.
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01 CLK 430
Originally Posted by shan12
I actually looked into the remote turbo for my CLK 55 when I lived in Jacksonville, FLand the shop told me he could do it but everything would be a tight fit. Then he wanted a crazy amount of money. I am looking for a shop in the Dallas, TX area to ask them about the remote setup. I did find a shop in Houston TX that said the would design a turbo system for about 8K, but they are about 4 to 5 hours away and that is hard for me to make that working 6 days a week. I know that no shop is offering a turbo setup at this time. If anyone has seen a shop on the internet that would do the cusom fab work in this area let me know, Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider
What was the name of the shop in Houston that said they would design you a custom setup?
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I think it was SGP. I would have to go back through my notes. I can do that if you are interested. I did see the Mosselman turbo website and he is doing turbo for c32 and other mercedes 6 cyl. There was no listing for the v8 and he is in Europe. Never know, I am going to email them and find out if they have any other applications.
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3 days ago i saw the same setup as this at the carwash. it was a woman who was it driving and i talked to her for about 30 min about turbos. it was a rear mounted t/c on a IROC camaro. the setup was very low to the ground..... standing up i could see the piping under the car. she said that this car was for a customer who drag races and that it will be a traler queen. it was interesting!
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