Kleemen S/C Kit
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Kleemen S/C Kit
I was wondering what was included in the Kleemen S/C kit. From the pictures I saw it seems to be a screw?? type blower? From my experience Screw or Roots types have always been the least expensive. Why is the kit running 17k. I know everything for MB's is going to be expensive but Lingenfelter is making the same kind of blower kit for the vette for like 6k and a company is making one for the vipers for 6k. Not trying to be cheap, just trying to get a better understanding of the markets for modifications.
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Re: Kleemen S/C Kit
Originally posted by jrod178
I was wondering what was included in the Kleemen S/C kit. From the pictures I saw it seems to be a screw?? type blower? From my experience Screw or Roots types have always been the least expensive. Why is the kit running 17k. I know everything for MB's is going to be expensive but Lingenfelter is making the same kind of blower kit for the vette for like 6k and a company is making one for the vipers for 6k. Not trying to be cheap, just trying to get a better understanding of the markets for modifications.
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I was wondering what was included in the Kleemen S/C kit. From the pictures I saw it seems to be a screw?? type blower? From my experience Screw or Roots types have always been the least expensive. Why is the kit running 17k. I know everything for MB's is going to be expensive but Lingenfelter is making the same kind of blower kit for the vette for like 6k and a company is making one for the vipers for 6k. Not trying to be cheap, just trying to get a better understanding of the markets for modifications.
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Alright, I just wanted to make sure it wasnt just a bolt on and people were getting gouged because they own MB, but if its a quality unit, then thats great. How long is a typical install? Does it require any internal engine work? Heads, pistons, rods, etc.?
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i believe you give up your car for about a week for install, for test purposes and computer remapping and what not, i dont believe any major components of the engine are changed, although new cams, headers, and what not just means more HP!!!, i wish i could say more, Mach430, where are you???? lil help bud....
(Mach430 can answer all your questions as his car has the Kleemann, throw him an email)
(Mach430 can answer all your questions as his car has the Kleemann, throw him an email)
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Originally posted by jrod178
Alright, I just wanted to make sure it wasnt just a bolt on and people were getting gouged because they own MB, but if its a quality unit, then thats great. How long is a typical install? Does it require any internal engine work? Heads, pistons, rods, etc.?
Alright, I just wanted to make sure it wasnt just a bolt on and people were getting gouged because they own MB, but if its a quality unit, then thats great. How long is a typical install? Does it require any internal engine work? Heads, pistons, rods, etc.?
If you are looking for the same power gain from renntech, be prepared to pay in excess of $30,000.00.
The kompressor is a lysholm type twin screw supercharger. The most efficient supercharger on the market today. It is combined with a laminova type air to water intercooler. The intercooler alone has the capability to cool the charge air 85-95%, depnding on conditions. Boost is set at a conservitive .5 bar. This system is engineered to the same quality standards as MB. If you would like to out run your buddy's Viper at the drag strip, this is the system for you.
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Originally posted by jrod178
Thanks, does anyone know what exactly is included in one of these kits? New injectors? New fuel system totally? Thanks
Thanks, does anyone know what exactly is included in one of these kits? New injectors? New fuel system totally? Thanks
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Thanks so its the kompresser unit, necessary brackets for mounting, fuel pressure regulator and ECM tuning. What about intercoolers? Anything else? Has anyone ever installed one themselves or known someone to do it, I remember these types of blowers being fairly easy to install? Does the car retain the stock radiator and fans?
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Originally posted by jrod178
Thanks so its the kompresser unit, necessary brackets for mounting, fuel pressure regulator and ECM tuning. What about intercoolers? Anything else? Has anyone ever installed one themselves or known someone to do it, I remember these types of blowers being fairly easy to install? Does the car retain the stock radiator and fans?
Thanks so its the kompresser unit, necessary brackets for mounting, fuel pressure regulator and ECM tuning. What about intercoolers? Anything else? Has anyone ever installed one themselves or known someone to do it, I remember these types of blowers being fairly easy to install? Does the car retain the stock radiator and fans?
Just a side note: this is not a honda or chevrolet supercharger kit. This is a highly engineered and tested system that is CARB certified, and designed with the quality and dependability that Mercedes-Benz engineers into thier vehicles. The installation take several fairly specialized tools that most individuals, let alone shops will not have. They are not uncommon tools, just ones that are not needed for everyday use in a shop or garage.
Like I said, please email me with any other questions you might have about the KLEEMANN kompressor system. I will be happy to answer all of your questions.
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Re: what about...
Originally posted by w208amg
fuel consumption, engine wear, suspension needs. I would love to get one but I still am hesitant.
fuel consumption, engine wear, suspension needs. I would love to get one but I still am hesitant.
Engine wear will also increase but only to the tune of approx. 15-20%. Again, something you can't avoid when adding 50% more power. So, if your engine was designed to last 200,000 miles, you might expect it to last 170,000 with the KLEEMANN system.
Suspension upgrades are not needed. However, to get the best performance times, an upgraded suspension can only help.
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Engine wear will also increase but only to the tune of approx. 15-20%. Again, something you can't avoid when adding 50% more power. So, if your engine was designed to last 200,000 miles, you might expect it to last 170,000 with the KLEEMANN system.
Suspension upgrades are not needed. However, to get the best performance times, an upgraded suspension can only help.
Engine wear will also increase but only to the tune of approx. 15-20%. Again, something you can't avoid when adding 50% more power. So, if your engine was designed to last 200,000 miles, you might expect it to last 170,000 with the KLEEMANN system.
Suspension upgrades are not needed. However, to get the best performance times, an upgraded suspension can only help.
It was my understanding that Kleemann tests showed only a 3% increase in engine wear, however, I don't know if that holds true with the newer applications.
Suspension upgrades are needed not because of the SC, but rather, because stock Mercedes all come with a geriatric setup.
I would recommend upgrading your brakes.
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Re: what about...
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Suspension upgrades are needed not because of the SC, but rather, because stock Mercedes all come with a geriatric setup.
I would recommend upgrading your brakes.
Suspension upgrades are needed not because of the SC, but rather, because stock Mercedes all come with a geriatric setup.
I would recommend upgrading your brakes.
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Re: Re: Re: what about...
Originally posted by Sleestack
It was my understanding that Kleemann tests showed only a 3% increase in engine wear, however, I don't know if that holds true with the newer applications.
Suspension upgrades are needed not because of the SC, but rather, because stock Mercedes all come with a geriatric setup.
I would recommend upgrading your brakes.
It was my understanding that Kleemann tests showed only a 3% increase in engine wear, however, I don't know if that holds true with the newer applications.
Suspension upgrades are needed not because of the SC, but rather, because stock Mercedes all come with a geriatric setup.
I would recommend upgrading your brakes.
I like to give maximum numbers, as to not be deceptive. You might have a 3% increase in wear if you drive like grandma on her way to church on sunday. 15% would be hammering on your engine constantly- holding it in second or third gear at redline. Not likley, but conservative numbers are safer to quote than numbers like Renntech quotes. You are absolutly right on with the "geriatric" suspension. my point being that you don't have to upgrade your suspension when one gets our kompressor installed. Most people do though. Why not eh??
Thanks for mentioning the brakes. How do you expect to handle 50% more power if you use the small, less grippy brakes? Again, an upgrade not needed, but highly recommended for saftey and fun!
Can't wait to hear about the results of your project!!
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Wrong concept up there !!
Allow me to look insight of C32AMG & C320.
Different brake & suspension setup by "FACTORY" engineers
They're experts to determine what should be upgrade or not.
These two cars are 50% hp gap each other !!
Then look at those C32 guys, none of them feel the needs
to downgrade the factory setup to be like C320 because
the stock C320 is good enough, while few enthrusiasts even
find upgrade solution for their interests.
Once we decide the hp upgrade,said, 50% , they're in totally
different leagues, you may find the budget is constraint
well, try to optimize your mods in every penny.
I know those Turbo Civic or Subaru boys are happy upgrading their turbo,as larger as possible,then ran out of money....
left the chassis & brake "stock", God ! hope they
know what they're doing to themselves & other innocent ppl.
Allow me to look insight of C32AMG & C320.
Different brake & suspension setup by "FACTORY" engineers
They're experts to determine what should be upgrade or not.
These two cars are 50% hp gap each other !!
Then look at those C32 guys, none of them feel the needs
to downgrade the factory setup to be like C320 because
the stock C320 is good enough, while few enthrusiasts even
find upgrade solution for their interests.
Once we decide the hp upgrade,said, 50% , they're in totally
different leagues, you may find the budget is constraint
well, try to optimize your mods in every penny.
I know those Turbo Civic or Subaru boys are happy upgrading their turbo,as larger as possible,then ran out of money....
left the chassis & brake "stock", God ! hope they
know what they're doing to themselves & other innocent ppl.
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I think we all can agree the Kleenman is a well built supercharger and should be priced somewhat more, but 18k that is a lot of $$ for 150hp. I can Assure you there are probably several CLK owners that have the $$ and would love to put on the supercharger but have a hard time justifying the cost.
It's like the Tyco guy and the $6000.00 shower curtain. Maybe we can get a group of CLK owners that are interested and see if we can get some sort of volume discount. Because I am sure the price is also set due to the # they produce.
Just a thought.
It's like the Tyco guy and the $6000.00 shower curtain. Maybe we can get a group of CLK owners that are interested and see if we can get some sort of volume discount. Because I am sure the price is also set due to the # they produce.
Just a thought.
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Originally posted by stormy
I think we all can agree the Kleenman is a well built supercharger and should be priced somewhat more, but 18k that is a lot of $$ for 150hp. I can Assure you there are probably several CLK owners that have the $$ and would love to put on the supercharger but have a hard time justifying the cost.
It's like the Tyco guy and the $6000.00 shower curtain. Maybe we can get a group of CLK owners that are interested and see if we can get some sort of volume discount. Because I am sure the price is also set due to the # they produce.
Just a thought.
I think we all can agree the Kleenman is a well built supercharger and should be priced somewhat more, but 18k that is a lot of $$ for 150hp. I can Assure you there are probably several CLK owners that have the $$ and would love to put on the supercharger but have a hard time justifying the cost.
It's like the Tyco guy and the $6000.00 shower curtain. Maybe we can get a group of CLK owners that are interested and see if we can get some sort of volume discount. Because I am sure the price is also set due to the # they produce.
Just a thought.
$107 per HP?? Hmmmmm, can you say "smokin good deal"?
