W209 CLK 55 AMG Kompressor
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W209 CLK 55 AMG Kompressor
Hi all,
AMG will release a small production run of the W209 CLK 55 AMG which is supercharged. It will be the same engine as the SL 55 AMG has (500 HP).
AMG will release a small production run of the W209 CLK 55 AMG which is supercharged. It will be the same engine as the SL 55 AMG has (500 HP).
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I bet we will not see it the US.
I am watching the DTM A.1 race right now and you know the 209 CLK looks really good in DTM dress...very slippery...Alesi is leading...Race over...fantastic finish....1 Fassler 2 Schneider 3 Alesi all MB's!!
Schneider went from 7th to 2nd in two laps...awesome!
I am watching the DTM A.1 race right now and you know the 209 CLK looks really good in DTM dress...very slippery...Alesi is leading...Race over...fantastic finish....1 Fassler 2 Schneider 3 Alesi all MB's!!
Schneider went from 7th to 2nd in two laps...awesome!
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The MB website says 368 hp for W209CLK55.
You mean you've heard that an even more limited run will have the 469-500 hp supercharged engine?
Why would AMG run 2 separate engines through for the same model?
That would require an entire overhaul of the suspension, settings, dynamics etc, all for a very few cars.
Would not be a profitable move, I'd have to guess.
No precedent for this, either.
Where did you hear this?
You mean you've heard that an even more limited run will have the 469-500 hp supercharged engine?
Why would AMG run 2 separate engines through for the same model?
That would require an entire overhaul of the suspension, settings, dynamics etc, all for a very few cars.
Would not be a profitable move, I'd have to guess.
No precedent for this, either.
Where did you hear this?
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It's probably going to be the Special Vehicle from AMG only offered in Europe. Like the C32 AMG sports coupe and the past C55, S63, etc.
If a CLK55 AMG cost around $70k-80k, the CLK55 with kompressor could be near $90-100k.
If a CLK55 AMG cost around $70k-80k, the CLK55 with kompressor could be near $90-100k.
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Oh my god...
you have no C 32 sportscoupe in the US? No C 55??? LOL....
Every german automobile manufacturer makes cars for the european market first. After that they are procuding other versions for the US market and the last step is to export cars to the arabic states like dubai.
The special versions of some cars like the CLK GTR (612 HP) from LeMans are always exported to the arabic market. They pay very well...
you have no C 32 sportscoupe in the US? No C 55??? LOL....
Every german automobile manufacturer makes cars for the european market first. After that they are procuding other versions for the US market and the last step is to export cars to the arabic states like dubai.
The special versions of some cars like the CLK GTR (612 HP) from LeMans are always exported to the arabic market. They pay very well...
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Originally posted by FrankW
It's probably going to be the Special Vehicle from AMG only offered in Europe. Like the C32 AMG sports coupe and the past C55, S63, etc.
If a CLK55 AMG cost around $70k-80k, the CLK55 with kompressor could be near $90-100k.
It's probably going to be the Special Vehicle from AMG only offered in Europe. Like the C32 AMG sports coupe and the past C55, S63, etc.
If a CLK55 AMG cost around $70k-80k, the CLK55 with kompressor could be near $90-100k.
how about CLK AMG with kleemann compressor.. daz prolly be a better value eh..!?
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Originally posted by tango
how about CLK AMG with kleemann compressor.. daz prolly be a better value eh..!?
how about CLK AMG with kleemann compressor.. daz prolly be a better value eh..!?
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Originally posted by FrankW
It's probably going to be the Special Vehicle from AMG only offered in Europe. Like the C32 AMG sports coupe and the past C55, S63, etc.
If a CLK55 AMG cost around $70k-80k, the CLK55 with kompressor could be near $90-100k.
It's probably going to be the Special Vehicle from AMG only offered in Europe. Like the C32 AMG sports coupe and the past C55, S63, etc.
If a CLK55 AMG cost around $70k-80k, the CLK55 with kompressor could be near $90-100k.
CLK55 F1 would do nicely with ceramic breaks
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CLK 55 AMG March 2000
The Kleemann-Kompressor for the CLK 55 - including installation in Brüggen costs Euro 25 000,- like I was offered by Kleemann Germany.
Then You would need wider and bigger tires too, I dont know exactly the Kleemanns price for it.
AMG offered me to have new rims, tires in 18 inch for about Euro 4000,-, including eventually necessary work on the body. The work would be done at AMG- Affalterbach.
But the most important thing :This rim and tire change would be legal, documented in the registration. Our technical surveillance agency here (TÜV) told me that they wont except anything else than AMG-approved alterations at this car.
Stefan
Then You would need wider and bigger tires too, I dont know exactly the Kleemanns price for it.
AMG offered me to have new rims, tires in 18 inch for about Euro 4000,-, including eventually necessary work on the body. The work would be done at AMG- Affalterbach.
But the most important thing :This rim and tire change would be legal, documented in the registration. Our technical surveillance agency here (TÜV) told me that they wont except anything else than AMG-approved alterations at this car.
Stefan
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You are wrong, please sometimes do your homework before you post to the whole world false information.
1.
The approx. € 25.000,00 is not the price for the CLK, it's the price for the new 640 HP version for the new 55 with compressor from AMG, like SL, CL, S and E 55.
We all know that the new 209 CLK is the " normal " aspirated 5,5
engine, so the price is approx. € 21.000,00 for 562 HP / 718 NM.
2.
Ofcause all Kleemann parts comes with TÜV, and all mods. will be written in your " Fahrzeugbreif ", without TÜV on the products, KLEEMANN or anybody else would leave the customer without insurance on the car in case of an accident.
So you can bring your 209 to KLEEMANN GmbH and have 19" or 20" with all TÜV approvals in your papers.
18" !!!! isn't that a size real men use for winter tires. :p :p :p
You are wrong, please sometimes do your homework before you post to the whole world false information.
1.
The approx. € 25.000,00 is not the price for the CLK, it's the price for the new 640 HP version for the new 55 with compressor from AMG, like SL, CL, S and E 55.
We all know that the new 209 CLK is the " normal " aspirated 5,5
engine, so the price is approx. € 21.000,00 for 562 HP / 718 NM.
2.
Ofcause all Kleemann parts comes with TÜV, and all mods. will be written in your " Fahrzeugbreif ", without TÜV on the products, KLEEMANN or anybody else would leave the customer without insurance on the car in case of an accident.
So you can bring your 209 to KLEEMANN GmbH and have 19" or 20" with all TÜV approvals in your papers.
18" !!!! isn't that a size real men use for winter tires. :p :p :p
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CLK 55 AMG March 2000
Lucas,
I am new at this forum but I am not stupid, neither I want to provide false informations.E-Mail from Mr.Kristensen ,Oktober 2002 :
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Sehr Geehrter Herr Heringer
Wir bedanken uns für Ihr Interesse an unseren Veredlungsprodukten für Mercedes Benz.
Die Leistung und Preisgestaltung für Ihren Mercedes CLK 55 AMG ist wie folgt:
Kleemann CLK 55 K 404KW/ 550 PS und 710 NM.
Basis CLK 55 AMG
Preis: € 21.430,- Zzgl. 16% Mwst Inkl. Einbau, inkl. 12 Monate Garantie
Dauer: Für den reinen Kompressor Einbau 3 – 4 Tage.
Hinterachstraktion: Empfehlenswert wäre breitere Reifen!
Welche Reifenbreite fahren sie Im Moment?
Ich würde Sie auch gerne gleichzeitig zu einer Probefahrt einladen, wenn Sie zeit und lust haben
Mal nach Brüggen zu kommen.
Würde mich sehr freuen.
Wenn Sie weitere Fragen haben sind Sie jederzeit herzlich willkommen mich zu kontaktieren
mations.
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So take a calculator and do the following addition :
Euro 21 430,- plus 16 % MWSt.(German sales tax)
My result is Euro 24 858,80
Expecting Your statement
Stefan
I am new at this forum but I am not stupid, neither I want to provide false informations.E-Mail from Mr.Kristensen ,Oktober 2002 :
Quote:
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Sehr Geehrter Herr Heringer
Wir bedanken uns für Ihr Interesse an unseren Veredlungsprodukten für Mercedes Benz.
Die Leistung und Preisgestaltung für Ihren Mercedes CLK 55 AMG ist wie folgt:
Kleemann CLK 55 K 404KW/ 550 PS und 710 NM.
Basis CLK 55 AMG
Preis: € 21.430,- Zzgl. 16% Mwst Inkl. Einbau, inkl. 12 Monate Garantie
Dauer: Für den reinen Kompressor Einbau 3 – 4 Tage.
Hinterachstraktion: Empfehlenswert wäre breitere Reifen!
Welche Reifenbreite fahren sie Im Moment?
Ich würde Sie auch gerne gleichzeitig zu einer Probefahrt einladen, wenn Sie zeit und lust haben
Mal nach Brüggen zu kommen.
Würde mich sehr freuen.
Wenn Sie weitere Fragen haben sind Sie jederzeit herzlich willkommen mich zu kontaktieren
mations.
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So take a calculator and do the following addition :
Euro 21 430,- plus 16 % MWSt.(German sales tax)
My result is Euro 24 858,80
Expecting Your statement
Stefan
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Stefan :
1.
I see your point
. And nobody said anything about anybody beeing stupid.
But you are writing on a " VERY " American board and even international board.
Then another time, just write incl. German VAT if you give out prices, then we all know what you are talking about.
Should I give out prices incl. Danish sales tax which is 25%, who
should benefit from that ???
A S 500 with not too many extras here in Denmark, cost €/$ 300.000,00 incl. tax, what can you use that information for, other
than, good I am not living there.
Tax or VAT is your local " PROBLEM ", live with it or do something about it.
I stay in Denmark because of the nice weather and the worlds highest taxes.
.
What's your excuse for staying in Germany ???
2.
Where I right about the TÜV, or am I stupid.
1.
I see your point
. And nobody said anything about anybody beeing stupid.But you are writing on a " VERY " American board and even international board.
Then another time, just write incl. German VAT if you give out prices, then we all know what you are talking about.
Should I give out prices incl. Danish sales tax which is 25%, who
should benefit from that ???
A S 500 with not too many extras here in Denmark, cost €/$ 300.000,00 incl. tax, what can you use that information for, other
than, good I am not living there.
Tax or VAT is your local " PROBLEM ", live with it or do something about it.
I stay in Denmark because of the nice weather and the worlds highest taxes.
.What's your excuse for staying in Germany ???
2.
Where I right about the TÜV, or am I stupid.
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CLK 55 AMG March 2000
I originally posted , quote:
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The Kleemann-Kompressor for the CLK 55 - including installation in Brüggen costs Euro 25 000,- like I was offered by Kleemann Germany.
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This is the amount of money I have to pay after installation according to the bill which i would receive. I see nothing wrong to calculate with this sum.
The reason for living here or there should not be discussed here, btw. I lived in US too.
I am convinced that Kleemann has an exemption from the TÜV to install the wheels they offer.
The local authorities would only accept a AMG-Approved combination of wheels and tires, like I was told recently.
That is my knowledge,I did my homework well, as You should do when posting about another country where You are not living in.
Stefan
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The Kleemann-Kompressor for the CLK 55 - including installation in Brüggen costs Euro 25 000,- like I was offered by Kleemann Germany.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the amount of money I have to pay after installation according to the bill which i would receive. I see nothing wrong to calculate with this sum.
The reason for living here or there should not be discussed here, btw. I lived in US too.
I am convinced that Kleemann has an exemption from the TÜV to install the wheels they offer.
The local authorities would only accept a AMG-Approved combination of wheels and tires, like I was told recently.
That is my knowledge,I did my homework well, as You should do when posting about another country where You are not living in.
Stefan
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Stefan :
1.
I can't see why you post a price nobody else can use, because you don't write incl. 16% German tax.
Then later be pissed off because I tell you the price is wrong, if it's
incl. VAT you where right, if it was excl. you where wrong.
So to me incl. or excl. local tax in a price written in an international forum is quite important.
2.
Sorry to **** you off again, but you have done a poor home work,
or the person you have asked should put a sock in it.
AMG is the only company who can sell a wheel/tire combination with a TÜV approval in Germany, is that what you are posting and claim is good home work.
So your claim is, KLEEMANN, BRABUS, CARLSSON, MAE, ect.ect.
don't have a TÜV on their wheels and don't have a TÜV for the application on the specific car.
I am close to use the word stupid now, but I will try and calm my self down.
I can promise you these companies use millions in TÜV approving their parts and each specific application. No matter what you change on a car in Germany, with more or less the exception from the floor matt's, has to have a TÜV approval, and be written in the Fahrzeugbreif, with manufactor, part number, ect.ect.
If the car is in an accident and it have a part on it without TÜV or written in the paper, there is simply no insurance on the car.
Every KLEEMANN part on my S class, compressor, brakes, spoilers
exhaust, wheels, steering wheel, body lowering, ect.ect. have a TÜV teilgutachten.
Nobody can work with an exemption in Germany, eather you have the TÜV and can sell or you don't.
Speak to some people who knows what they are talking about, and have a happy new year.
1.
I can't see why you post a price nobody else can use, because you don't write incl. 16% German tax.
Then later be pissed off because I tell you the price is wrong, if it's
incl. VAT you where right, if it was excl. you where wrong.
So to me incl. or excl. local tax in a price written in an international forum is quite important.
2.
Sorry to **** you off again, but you have done a poor home work,
or the person you have asked should put a sock in it.
AMG is the only company who can sell a wheel/tire combination with a TÜV approval in Germany, is that what you are posting and claim is good home work.
So your claim is, KLEEMANN, BRABUS, CARLSSON, MAE, ect.ect.
don't have a TÜV on their wheels and don't have a TÜV for the application on the specific car.
I am close to use the word stupid now, but I will try and calm my self down.
I can promise you these companies use millions in TÜV approving their parts and each specific application. No matter what you change on a car in Germany, with more or less the exception from the floor matt's, has to have a TÜV approval, and be written in the Fahrzeugbreif, with manufactor, part number, ect.ect.
If the car is in an accident and it have a part on it without TÜV or written in the paper, there is simply no insurance on the car.
Every KLEEMANN part on my S class, compressor, brakes, spoilers
exhaust, wheels, steering wheel, body lowering, ect.ect. have a TÜV teilgutachten.
Nobody can work with an exemption in Germany, eather you have the TÜV and can sell or you don't.
Speak to some people who knows what they are talking about, and have a happy new year.
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CLK 55 AMG March 2000
Quote:
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Speak to some people who knows what they are talking about, and have a happy new year.
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Why bother other people when You know it all ?
Thank You for the lesson.
And have a happy new year too
Stefan
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Speak to some people who knows what they are talking about, and have a happy new year.
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Why bother other people when You know it all ?
Thank You for the lesson.
And have a happy new year too
Stefan
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In any event.....
In the USA you will not get these limited production AMG cars. The CLK, G and ML will have standard (albeit slightly improved HP/TQ) N/A 55 engines.
Im sure one could find a way to import such a car once it was available (If it even comes). The premium you would pay is to the moon and back. Why not buy the 500 the way you want it here and then let KLEEMANN build you a personalized killer?
Anybody can buy what AMG sells- whats special about that?
In the USA you will not get these limited production AMG cars. The CLK, G and ML will have standard (albeit slightly improved HP/TQ) N/A 55 engines.
Im sure one could find a way to import such a car once it was available (If it even comes). The premium you would pay is to the moon and back. Why not buy the 500 the way you want it here and then let KLEEMANN build you a personalized killer?
Anybody can buy what AMG sells- whats special about that?
