Camshaft questions
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Still available. Pat has all the information and has offered to support this sale since VRP/PTE cams are limited production and exclusive as far as performance parts go in this market.
please email me as sunirghosal@hotmail.com for purchase inquiries.
have a great weekend everyone!
please email me as sunirghosal@hotmail.com for purchase inquiries.
have a great weekend everyone!
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I just bought these from Beuphus (Sorry Sunir). My custom tune does in fact move the shift points up 200 rpm so I do need the titanium retainers? Can you give the PN#, costs and the best place to get them? As for the valve springs I will take your word that the stock ones will be adequate. I also have 1mm oversized intake REV valves and ported valve openings and heads so will there be a clearance issue?
There is no need for Titanium Retainers. Stock springs are ok below 6700 , the stock shift points are at 6400 rpm unless your tuner moved it to 6600. These cams work quite well with The AMG stock Valve springs.
In Havoc's issue was one of the custom pistons , that where in his engine , did not have enough relief fly cut in the dish area , too have the proper clearence for the 1mm over sized intake & Exhaust valves , built for VRP by Ferrera . Plus I believe Havoc's engine had the deck surfaced on the block & Heads. I have over 29 sets of these cams out there . and no known fitment issue on stock m-113 engines. Sunir's cams were just too much for his driving taste . That's is why I posted my Youtube stuff. This cams are a good deal for somebody who wants more top end HP. With a willingness to give up a little of that velvet smooth idle quality.
Hope this helps . this debate could go on for a long time and still not be the right stuff for some peoples taste, Hence the youtude vidoes
Cheers _PTengineering
In Havoc's issue was one of the custom pistons , that where in his engine , did not have enough relief fly cut in the dish area , too have the proper clearence for the 1mm over sized intake & Exhaust valves , built for VRP by Ferrera . Plus I believe Havoc's engine had the deck surfaced on the block & Heads. I have over 29 sets of these cams out there . and no known fitment issue on stock m-113 engines. Sunir's cams were just too much for his driving taste . That's is why I posted my Youtube stuff. This cams are a good deal for somebody who wants more top end HP. With a willingness to give up a little of that velvet smooth idle quality.
Hope this helps . this debate could go on for a long time and still not be the right stuff for some peoples taste, Hence the youtude vidoes
Cheers _PTengineering
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I just bought these from Beuphus (Sorry Sunir). My custom tune does in fact move the shift points up 200 rpm so I do need the titanium retainers? Can you give the PN#, costs and the best place to get them? As for the valve springs I will take your word that the stock ones will be adequate. I also have 1mm oversized intake REV valves and ported valve openings and heads so will there be a clearance issue?
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Sure thing. Please PM me in 2 weeks if I change my mind about installing them. Richard Garcia at Dynocomp will give me a verdict once he starts the tuning phase.
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I realize that some folks are selling these cams for much less than what they are worth and what I (or they) have into them, these cams retail for $2800 and selling them at $1500 or so only hurts the folks that are trying to sell them at a fair price to recoup some of their cost, even at $2200 I still would not recoup my cost...and my cams are basically new, or in near new condition. As far as fire sales go I think they only hurt the market, it's sort of like a few people flipping houses for pennies on the dollar in a nice neighborhood when the rest of the sellers go to market their property values have taken a hit when they are ALREADY upside down on their mortgage and just want to recoup as much of their fair market value back in the re-sale. This is a very negative practice, Pat and I discussed this over the weekend in fact.
In addition I caution any buyers looking for the cheapest price out there, people sell for a number of reasons, just like when buying a car if you for the lowest price sometimes it can cost more in the longrun and more often then not like they saying goes "if it's too good to be true then it more than likely is just that"...
All this said, I realize that I have been serverly undercut and as a result I am willing to negotiate on the pricing a bit...however please understand that I am not ebay, I want to be fair for both parties and Pat is supporting the sale of these cams because he knows that I am a reputable seller and he wants to help me offer these cams at a good value to the buyer. My cams are still for sale and although I am motivated to sell I can't just give them away like others, that's just not fair considering what I have into these cams, the fact that regardless I will not be getting my whole amount invested back so I am trying to recoup some of my money, Pat's willingness to help and his support to the new buyer, and lastly the fact that my cams are practically still new and barely used.
I appreciate your consideration and understanding and look forward to hearing from you and working out a deal where we can both walk away satisfied,
Sunir
I realize that some folks are selling these cams for much less than what they are worth and what I (or they) have into them, these cams retail for $2800 and selling them at $1500 or so only hurts the folks that are trying to sell them at a fair price to recoup some of their cost, even at $2200 I still would not recoup my cost...and my cams are basically new, or in near new condition. As far as fire sales go I think they only hurt the market, it's sort of like a few people flipping houses for pennies on the dollar in a nice neighborhood when the rest of the sellers go to market their property values have taken a hit when they are ALREADY upside down on their mortgage and just want to recoup as much of their fair market value back in the re-sale. This is a very negative practice, Pat and I discussed this over the weekend in fact.
In addition I caution any buyers looking for the cheapest price out there, people sell for a number of reasons, just like when buying a car if you for the lowest price sometimes it can cost more in the longrun and more often then not like they saying goes "if it's too good to be true then it more than likely is just that"...
All this said, I realize that I have been serverly undercut and as a result I am willing to negotiate on the pricing a bit...however please understand that I am not ebay, I want to be fair for both parties and Pat is supporting the sale of these cams because he knows that I am a reputable seller and he wants to help me offer these cams at a good value to the buyer. My cams are still for sale and although I am motivated to sell I can't just give them away like others, that's just not fair considering what I have into these cams, the fact that regardless I will not be getting my whole amount invested back so I am trying to recoup some of my money, Pat's willingness to help and his support to the new buyer, and lastly the fact that my cams are practically still new and barely used.
I appreciate your consideration and understanding and look forward to hearing from you and working out a deal where we can both walk away satisfied,
Sunir
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I realize that some folks are selling these cams for much less than what they are worth and what I (or they) have into them, these cams retail for $2800 and selling them at $1500 or so only hurts the folks that are trying to sell them at a fair price to recoup some of their cost, even at $2200 I still would not recoup my cost...and my cams are basically new, or in near new condition. As far as fire sales go I think they only hurt the market, it's sort of like a few people flipping houses for pennies on the dollar in a nice neighborhood when the rest of the sellers go to market their property values have taken a hit when they are ALREADY upside down on their mortgage and just want to recoup as much of their fair market value back in the re-sale. This is a very negative practice, Pat and I discussed this over the weekend in fact.
In addition I caution any buyers looking for the cheapest price out there, people sell for a number of reasons, just like when buying a car if you for the lowest price sometimes it can cost more in the longrun and more often then not like they saying goes "if it's too good to be true then it more than likely is just that"...
All this said, I realize that I have been serverly undercut and as a result I am willing to negotiate on the pricing a bit...however please understand that I am not ebay, I want to be fair for both parties and Pat is supporting the sale of these cams because he knows that I am a reputable seller and he wants to help me offer these cams at a good value to the buyer. My cams are still for sale and although I am motivated to sell I can't just give them away like others, that's just not fair considering what I have into these cams, the fact that regardless I will not be getting my whole amount invested back so I am trying to recoup some of my money, Pat's willingness to help and his support to the new buyer, and lastly the fact that my cams are practically still new and barely used.
I appreciate your consideration and understanding and look forward to hearing from you and working out a deal where we can both walk away satisfied,
Sunir
I realize that some folks are selling these cams for much less than what they are worth and what I (or they) have into them, these cams retail for $2800 and selling them at $1500 or so only hurts the folks that are trying to sell them at a fair price to recoup some of their cost, even at $2200 I still would not recoup my cost...and my cams are basically new, or in near new condition. As far as fire sales go I think they only hurt the market, it's sort of like a few people flipping houses for pennies on the dollar in a nice neighborhood when the rest of the sellers go to market their property values have taken a hit when they are ALREADY upside down on their mortgage and just want to recoup as much of their fair market value back in the re-sale. This is a very negative practice, Pat and I discussed this over the weekend in fact.
In addition I caution any buyers looking for the cheapest price out there, people sell for a number of reasons, just like when buying a car if you for the lowest price sometimes it can cost more in the longrun and more often then not like they saying goes "if it's too good to be true then it more than likely is just that"...
All this said, I realize that I have been serverly undercut and as a result I am willing to negotiate on the pricing a bit...however please understand that I am not ebay, I want to be fair for both parties and Pat is supporting the sale of these cams because he knows that I am a reputable seller and he wants to help me offer these cams at a good value to the buyer. My cams are still for sale and although I am motivated to sell I can't just give them away like others, that's just not fair considering what I have into these cams, the fact that regardless I will not be getting my whole amount invested back so I am trying to recoup some of my money, Pat's willingness to help and his support to the new buyer, and lastly the fact that my cams are practically still new and barely used.
I appreciate your consideration and understanding and look forward to hearing from you and working out a deal where we can both walk away satisfied,
Sunir
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I've confirmed with quite a few owners that the loping/lumping/chugging sound is almost unbearable for some but delightful for others. If you like the sound of Harley's then this should not bother you at all.
I don't drive my car everyday so I don't think I would mind as long as the car does not stall or lunge. My tuner at Dynocomp should have no troube dialing it in but for others wondering about buying these. I would agree that a good custom tune needs to be in the budget in addition to 3-5 hrs of installation time and finally the cost of possible titanium retainers.
I don't drive my car everyday so I don't think I would mind as long as the car does not stall or lunge. My tuner at Dynocomp should have no troube dialing it in but for others wondering about buying these. I would agree that a good custom tune needs to be in the budget in addition to 3-5 hrs of installation time and finally the cost of possible titanium retainers.
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camshafts are sold...for those of you who were lowballers these do sell for fair market value...for the unscrupulous sellers who were undercutting these by giving them away at rediculous prices...ya shoulda held out...
Sure it took a bit longer than expected and sure it was stressful BUT in the end I got my price, and it was a fair deal for both parties.
Sure it took a bit longer than expected and sure it was stressful BUT in the end I got my price, and it was a fair deal for both parties.
