C55-06 TCU in CLK 55-04
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I'd much prefer to be able to disable ESP and roast the rears at will, and I suspect others would too. This particularly makes sense at the drag strip where you have a finite amount of time to get staged and pressing one button twice is far better than cycling power on the car. If swapping TCUs can affect this then I think it's a good pursuit for all. 
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The idea here is that swapping the TCU MIGHT change this. One of the '06 E55 guys swapped to a CLK55 TCU (for 3.06 gears) and as a side effect can now do burnouts without being in dyno mode.
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This 2 cars that are showing in the video is for my friends ,
1st one is CLK 55 RED 2005 ( STOCK CLK55 TCU )
2nd one E55 2004 Black ( STOCK E55 TCU )
As well, burnout was made by only switching off the ESP .
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Great videos! A little more information - we're pretty sure at least for E55s that there was some production overlap in '05 - some cars can do burnout with just ESP off, and some can't. If the TCU programming across the MB line holds somewhat constant than it's possible that '05 has one of the earlier TCUs. If we could get part numbers from the EGS52 I'll bet we would see a consistent trend.
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Great videos! A little more information - we're pretty sure at least for E55s that there was some production overlap in '05 - some cars can do burnout with just ESP off, and some can't. If the TCU programming across the MB line holds somewhat constant than it's possible that '05 has one of the earlier TCUs. If we could get part numbers from the EGS52 I'll bet we would see a consistent trend.
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Great videos! A little more information - we're pretty sure at least for E55s that there was some production overlap in '05 - some cars can do burnout with just ESP off, and some can't. If the TCU programming across the MB line holds somewhat constant than it's possible that '05 has one of the earlier TCUs. If we could get part numbers from the EGS52 I'll bet we would see a consistent trend.
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I have a 2005.5 E55 in the garage - I'm going to go take apart the passenger footwell this afternoon and see which module I have. To confirm, are you saying you have that module and CAN do burnouts? Thanks!
Edit: the next question is if it's the TCU or the ESP+PML module, or some combination of the two, that allows for this. We have had people change only TCUs and become able to do burnouts.
Edit: the next question is if it's the TCU or the ESP+PML module, or some combination of the two, that allows for this. We have had people change only TCUs and become able to do burnouts.
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I have a 2005.5 E55 in the garage - I'm going to go take apart the passenger footwell this afternoon and see which module I have. To confirm, are you saying you have that module and CAN do burnouts? Thanks!
Edit: the next question is if it's the TCU or the ESP+PML module, or some combination of the two, that allows for this. We have had people change only TCUs and become able to do burnouts.
Edit: the next question is if it's the TCU or the ESP+PML module, or some combination of the two, that allows for this. We have had people change only TCUs and become able to do burnouts.
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I have, I'm also participating in that thread (see page 3) Not all of the variables have been isolated yet to answer conclusively how and what makes 3.06 gear swaps with CLK/C55 TCUs plus burnouts possible.
Not all of the variables have been isolated yet to answer conclusively how and what makes 3.06 gear swaps with CLK/C55 TCUs plus burnouts possible.
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I have, I'm also participating in that thread (see page 3) Not all of the variables have been isolated yet to answer conclusively how and what makes 3.06 gear swaps with CLK/C55 TCUs plus burnouts possible.
Not all of the variables have been isolated yet to answer conclusively how and what makes 3.06 gear swaps with CLK/C55 TCUs plus burnouts possible.My car is 04 , Before swapping into C55 TCU , My stock CLK 55 04 TCU PART NUMBER WAS : 030 545 43 32 + ITS EGS52
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The plot thickens. (imgur gallery here)
So with the help of my trusty assistants, I took apart the panel on my 2005.5 E55 AMG (sliding cup holder covers, not split). I don't know that the SAM module has anything to do with this but I labeled it anyway.
What I found is that my car has TCU part number 034 545 15 32 - which I didn't even have on my list in the other thread. While another thread suggests changing the ESP/PML/suspension control module to get burnouts, I'm not so sure.
Here are all my guesses following this:
- If I keep my stock 2.63 rear gears and switch to a 034 545 10 32 TCU, I can probably do burnouts.
- If I swap to 3.06 rear gears and switch to a C55 or CLK55 TCU <part numbers needed here> I can probably do burnouts.
- If I swap to 3.06 rear gears, I can drive the car with <insert part numbers here> without throwing limp codes, but can't do burnouts.
Tempted to order a 034 545 10 32 TCU to test this with my stock gears first, unless there's someone in Colorado/Denver that has an 03-04 E55 AMG that can do burnouts that wants to get together and swap TCUs to test this!
So with the help of my trusty assistants, I took apart the panel on my 2005.5 E55 AMG (sliding cup holder covers, not split). I don't know that the SAM module has anything to do with this but I labeled it anyway.
What I found is that my car has TCU part number 034 545 15 32 - which I didn't even have on my list in the other thread. While another thread suggests changing the ESP/PML/suspension control module to get burnouts, I'm not so sure.
Here are all my guesses following this:
- If I keep my stock 2.63 rear gears and switch to a 034 545 10 32 TCU, I can probably do burnouts.
- If I swap to 3.06 rear gears and switch to a C55 or CLK55 TCU <part numbers needed here> I can probably do burnouts.
- If I swap to 3.06 rear gears, I can drive the car with <insert part numbers here> without throwing limp codes, but can't do burnouts.
Tempted to order a 034 545 10 32 TCU to test this with my stock gears first, unless there's someone in Colorado/Denver that has an 03-04 E55 AMG that can do burnouts that wants to get together and swap TCUs to test this!
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The plot thickens. (imgur gallery here)
So with the help of my trusty assistants, I took apart the panel on my 2005.5 E55 AMG (sliding cup holder covers, not split). I don't know that the SAM module has anything to do with this but I labeled it anyway.
What I found is that my car has TCU part number 034 545 15 32 - which I didn't even have on my list in the other thread. While another thread suggests changing the ESP/PML/suspension control module to get burnouts, I'm not so sure.
Here are all my guesses following this:
- If I keep my stock 2.63 rear gears and switch to a 034 545 10 32 TCU, I can probably do burnouts.
- If I swap to 3.06 rear gears and switch to a C55 or CLK55 TCU <part numbers needed here> I can probably do burnouts.
- If I swap to 3.06 rear gears, I can drive the car with <insert part numbers here> without throwing limp codes, but can't do burnouts.
Tempted to order a 034 545 10 32 TCU to test this with my stock gears first, unless there's someone in Colorado/Denver that has an 03-04 E55 AMG that can do burnouts that wants to get together and swap TCUs to test this!
So with the help of my trusty assistants, I took apart the panel on my 2005.5 E55 AMG (sliding cup holder covers, not split). I don't know that the SAM module has anything to do with this but I labeled it anyway.
What I found is that my car has TCU part number 034 545 15 32 - which I didn't even have on my list in the other thread. While another thread suggests changing the ESP/PML/suspension control module to get burnouts, I'm not so sure.
Here are all my guesses following this:
- If I keep my stock 2.63 rear gears and switch to a 034 545 10 32 TCU, I can probably do burnouts.
- If I swap to 3.06 rear gears and switch to a C55 or CLK55 TCU <part numbers needed here> I can probably do burnouts.
- If I swap to 3.06 rear gears, I can drive the car with <insert part numbers here> without throwing limp codes, but can't do burnouts.
Tempted to order a 034 545 10 32 TCU to test this with my stock gears first, unless there's someone in Colorado/Denver that has an 03-04 E55 AMG that can do burnouts that wants to get together and swap TCUs to test this!
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I can do brake torques, I've never tried a bt over an extended period of time, just 3-4 seconds. I can briefly burn out but it seems if I start to get any sideways movement the esp kicks in, I'm not sure if its the lateral movement or its just the esp interrupting because of the obvious loss in traction.
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From GregMB in the other thread:
Here's a simple table that shows you the TCU versions that you need to be concerned with for the E55... The two "green" part numbers are confirmed to allow brakestand burnouts, and the three "red" ones are documented to prevent brakestand burnouts.
I know that user adianaty swapped in the A 034 545 10 32 into his late model E55 and indicated that it was a complete success....he smoked the tires down to the cords, where previously it was impossible with his 2005-2006 TCU module.
The "EGS52"-based TCU modules are allegedly programmable, so with the help of Jerry (EuroCharged) you might be able to simply load the firmware file from one of the older TCUs (the green ones) into a newer TCU and effectively make it act like the older TCU without actually swapping out any hardware.... I haven't confirmed this with Jerry, but since he already does TCU programming, it seems entirely plausible that he could build a new TCU image file from a 2003 or 2004 image, and put that on any TCU in this list.
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I just ordered an A 033 545 14 32 and am going to test (with stock gears, in a 2005.5 E55 AMG) whether I can do brake stand burnouts. From there I'm going to see if I can get that ECU tuned to allow for 3.06 gears when I swap gears.
I would also like to expand the data table above with CLK55 and C55 TCUs to show the capabilities of those TCUs too!
Here's a simple table that shows you the TCU versions that you need to be concerned with for the E55... The two "green" part numbers are confirmed to allow brakestand burnouts, and the three "red" ones are documented to prevent brakestand burnouts.
I know that user adianaty swapped in the A 034 545 10 32 into his late model E55 and indicated that it was a complete success....he smoked the tires down to the cords, where previously it was impossible with his 2005-2006 TCU module.
The "EGS52"-based TCU modules are allegedly programmable, so with the help of Jerry (EuroCharged) you might be able to simply load the firmware file from one of the older TCUs (the green ones) into a newer TCU and effectively make it act like the older TCU without actually swapping out any hardware.... I haven't confirmed this with Jerry, but since he already does TCU programming, it seems entirely plausible that he could build a new TCU image file from a 2003 or 2004 image, and put that on any TCU in this list.
-G
I would also like to expand the data table above with CLK55 and C55 TCUs to show the capabilities of those TCUs too!
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So I did some "research" and found that I can't do burnouts. I can do a brake torque, let my foot off the brake and continue to burnout for a nice long distance. If I wasn't just doing "research" I would be even more disappointed at that fact.
One time I was at a stop, floored it and did a u-turn and left a nice surprising smoke cloud and a whole lot of ruckess so I assumed I could burn out. Evertime I took off aggressively I was always trying to prevent it from burning out, turns out that it isnt that necessary to worry about.
One time I was at a stop, floored it and did a u-turn and left a nice surprising smoke cloud and a whole lot of ruckess so I assumed I could burn out. Evertime I took off aggressively I was always trying to prevent it from burning out, turns out that it isnt that necessary to worry about.
