Twin Turbo?
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the KLEEMANN supercharger... is good, but turbo is much more sufficient for the clk, because we are not racing all the time. also supercharger and turbo systems are coming down in prices because the material it is used is getting much cheaper, so rather have a turbo system, which maybe is safer when push to its limits.
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Originally posted by idiotsCANNOTfly
the KLEEMANN supercharger... is good, but turbo is much more sufficient for the clk, because we are not racing all the time. also supercharger and turbo systems are coming down in prices because the material it is used is getting much cheaper, so rather have a turbo system, which maybe is safer when push to its limits.
the KLEEMANN supercharger... is good, but turbo is much more sufficient for the clk, because we are not racing all the time. also supercharger and turbo systems are coming down in prices because the material it is used is getting much cheaper, so rather have a turbo system, which maybe is safer when push to its limits.
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well, superchargers is always at a constant power input, and turbos only spool up around 3rpm, so it is pretty good for day to day driving. right? also when push to its limits turbo have regulation valve thats help manage the high pressure, unlike superchagers which use the engines to rotate.
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03 CLK55
I can't speak for Lucas, but...
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me, lucas?
me, lucas?
I'm 99% sure he didn't mean you. I think he was refering to idiotsCANNOTfly because of his incorrect assumption about always giving constant power output and running all the time. Just for your info, idiotsCANNOTfly, most, if not all, of the superchargers for the AMG cars have electromagnetic clutches that only run the compressor during acceleration. At steady and part throttle application, the compressor is by-passed. I've also wondered about a turbo application, for one, to "honor" and "emulate" the Sauber Group C Prototypes, and also just to do a different approach. Having said that though, I still think I would go with the supercharger route unless I could be absolutely convinced of the reliability, driveability, and afforability of a turbo system. As far as I know, Mousselman is the big MB turbo tuner. I might not be correct on the spelling, jfyi...
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Here is some real info, from someone who has been there
You can twin-turbo the CLK430/55 if you want to cut up your engine compartment.
We looked into doing this for a few weeks and the top customizers in the business decided it was not feasable without hurting the integrity of the vehicle.
The only way to go was quick spin-up turbos, because of the automatic and gearing of the CLK. We could not find a way to fit the downpipes and turbos without relocating the ABS and some other electronics.
Heat was also an issue as we could not put the turbos on the bottom side of the engine compartment.
A custom Procharger C2 air-to-air intercooled setup is the way we went. All of the brackets and tubing we customized. It took about 4 months, but the car runs perfect.
We ran a 13.09 with 2.8lbs of boost and a 12.62 with 5.2lbs of boost. We are running 32 degrees above amibient temperature at the throttle body.
This car is super efficient and spins up very quickly.
If you are interested in buying the system, please call me at 631-767-0178.
Thanks,
Chris
We looked into doing this for a few weeks and the top customizers in the business decided it was not feasable without hurting the integrity of the vehicle.
The only way to go was quick spin-up turbos, because of the automatic and gearing of the CLK. We could not find a way to fit the downpipes and turbos without relocating the ABS and some other electronics.
Heat was also an issue as we could not put the turbos on the bottom side of the engine compartment.
A custom Procharger C2 air-to-air intercooled setup is the way we went. All of the brackets and tubing we customized. It took about 4 months, but the car runs perfect.
We ran a 13.09 with 2.8lbs of boost and a 12.62 with 5.2lbs of boost. We are running 32 degrees above amibient temperature at the throttle body.
This car is super efficient and spins up very quickly.
If you are interested in buying the system, please call me at 631-767-0178.
Thanks,
Chris
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i had spoken to the tech. supervisor at a Van Nuys, CA location, and this guy have no clue on the clk55 by-passing the supercharger went not going full throttle. He said a supercharger is always running even on idle. correct me if i heard it wrong.
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There is something called a by-pass valve that takes the charged air from the charge side of the supercharger and sends it back into the intake side when running on vacuum.
While the supercharger is always spinning, your car is not always under boost.
Buy my system and stop dicking around (joke)
While the supercharger is always spinning, your car is not always under boost.
Buy my system and stop dicking around (joke)
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Originally posted by sajecw
There is something called a by-pass valve that takes the charged air from the charge side of the supercharger and sends it back into the intake side when running on vacuum.
While the supercharger is always spinning, your car is not always under boost.
Buy my system and stop dicking around (joke)
There is something called a by-pass valve that takes the charged air from the charge side of the supercharger and sends it back into the intake side when running on vacuum.
While the supercharger is always spinning, your car is not always under boost.
Buy my system and stop dicking around (joke)
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I you ever see a CLK430 with 5 lbs of boost run any better than a 13.7, then it was dropped off a 1/4 mile high hill.
The stock CLK430 is a 14.6-14.7 car. 5 lbs of boost on that particular car might put it a second slower. maybe 13.6's.
Is 12.62 to slow for 5lbs of boost?
I think the Kleemann cars with 7 lbs are going about the same.
You would be able to stay with or closely beat a stock CLK55 for about $7000.00.
Ask Ben what his Kleemann CLK430 runs.
The stock CLK430 is a 14.6-14.7 car. 5 lbs of boost on that particular car might put it a second slower. maybe 13.6's.
Is 12.62 to slow for 5lbs of boost?
I think the Kleemann cars with 7 lbs are going about the same.
You would be able to stay with or closely beat a stock CLK55 for about $7000.00.
Ask Ben what his Kleemann CLK430 runs.
