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CLK63/Black vs. BMW M6: Video

Old Jul 18, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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CLK63/Black vs. BMW M6: Video

Finally, someone gets it right. I've heard the CLK63 Black compared to various Porsches (911GT3, Turbo) and other cars, but never quite thought they were comparing apples to apples.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNzuI7LO5lE&eurl=

I think the M6 is about the best "direct comparison" out there, and the Edmunds test hits the nail on the head with regards to why I wouldn't buy an M6 (though I can see why some would) but am in love with the CLK63 Black.

For me, what sets the car apart is the combination of dead-serious performance with reasonable comfort for "normal" use and the fun-quotient of RWD handling characteristics -- along with the absence of most electronic BS (like iDrive). I think the Black will go down as one of the great driver's cars. Though they didn't really "track" the cars, the CLK63 Black demonstrates superior performance in every category they tested.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by brt3
Finally, someone gets it right. I've heard the CLK63 Black compared to various Porsches (911GT3, Turbo) and other cars, but never quite thought they were comparing apples to apples.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNzuI7LO5lE&eurl=

I think the M6 is about the best "direct comparison" out there, and the Edmunds test hits the nail on the head with regards to why I wouldn't buy an M6 (though I can see why some would) but am in love with the CLK63 Black.

For me, what sets the car apart is the combination of dead-serious performance with reasonable comfort for "normal" use and the fun-quotient of RWD handling characteristics -- along with the absence of most electronic BS (like iDrive). I think the Black will go down as one of the great driver's cars. Though they didn't really "track" the cars, the CLK63 Black demonstrates superior performance in every category they tested.


Its a good comparison to a point. I think its a little unfair, though. They're comparing a very limited production car (that costs more) with a readily available vehicle. What would happen if BMW introduced a limited production CSL version of the M6?
On top of that the M6 is a GT vehicle that is a good daily and long haul driver, the Merc is not.
That said, I am dumping my M6 for a CLK63 Black Series. I can tell you it was a little more difficult to buy this Mercedes than I anticipated. It took 3 months to get a firm order with Mercedes. I ordered it in Obsidian Black, which I'm a little unsure of. My M6 is black and it looks a little odd with the carbon fiber roof. The contrast isn't enough and the carbon fiber ends up looking like a faded black paint job from a distance.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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great video! the clk looks amazing in the red. I cant wait to see one in black.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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I agree the clk63 looks good. At 136k it has to go up with the gt3 though. The gt3 has a base of 106k and is 1000lbs lighter. I think it is a nice car but mb should have sold it at 105-110k or made it 600hp.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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on a side note I dont see how the clk63 can weigh as much as the e55 or cls63? Where did they add the weight? It is 2 doors no rear seats?
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BiTurboAmg
I agree the clk63 looks good. At 136k it has to go up with the gt3 though. The gt3 has a base of 106k and is 1000lbs lighter. I think it is a nice car but mb should have sold it at 105-110k or made it 600hp.

Seems that porsche's published weights for the GT3 are not matching the real world weights. Rennlist posts indicate that the RS's are coming in at
3260 and the GT3 are a hundred more.
If you include the european standized method that amg uses, the published weight of the CLK 63 black includes 90% full fuel tank, 165 lbs driver and 20lbs of luggage. Adding the driver and luggage puts the porsche GT3 about 500lbs lighter not 1000.

Carbon door panels, shell seats and long tube headers drop the weight about 200 lbs on the Clk.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by chiphomme
Its a good comparison to a point. I think its a little unfair, though. They're comparing a very limited production car (that costs more) with a readily available vehicle. What would happen if BMW introduced a limited production CSL version of the M6?
On top of that the M6 is a GT vehicle that is a good daily and long haul driver, the Merc is not.
That said, I am dumping my M6 for a CLK63 Black Series. I can tell you it was a little more difficult to buy this Mercedes than I anticipated. It took 3 months to get a firm order with Mercedes. I ordered it in Obsidian Black, which I'm a little unsure of. My M6 is black and it looks a little odd with the carbon fiber roof. The contrast isn't enough and the carbon fiber ends up looking like a faded black paint job from a distance.
Interesting, I am contemplating doing exactly that as well. My M6 is just a little too "tame".

I thought about going the route of a 997 GT2, but that thing will sticker at $191k and I don't know if my dealer is even going to get one, as there will only be around 65-70 that make their way to the U.S.

The problem is, I may have waited too long now to even get a CLK63Black.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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M6 vs. CLK63 BS

I used to have an M6 and it feels like a heavy boat compared to the CLK63 BS.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jengleco
I used to have an M6 and it feels like a heavy boat compared to the CLK63 BS.
or you can spend an extra 10k on the m6 and get a car that performs like this.

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...h=Search:zoom:
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BiTurboAmg
I agree the clk63 looks good. At 136k it has to go up with the gt3 though. The gt3 has a base of 106k and is 1000lbs lighter. I think it is a nice car but mb should have sold it at 105-110k or made it 600hp.
I am with you on this. The price is just too high for what it is. I personally would rather have a 2k mile SL65 for less money. The CLK looks sweet but at close to 140k it has a Looong way to fall quickly.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jengleco
I used to have an M6 and it feels like a heavy boat compared to the CLK63 BS.
So you've driven a CLK63 Black Series?
The M6 has never seemed like a "boat" to me.
It is a lot more nimble than the CLS55 I owned before it.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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I own the CLK63 BS. Picked it up on Saturday. It is much tighter than the M6. I feel that in the M6 it felt that I was dragging the car behind me due to its' size (hopefully that makes sense). The CLK63 BS seems to feel as one piece. It has less gimick than the M6 which makes the driving much smoother and direct. But, if you want to really get on it, the shifting is fast and immediate. (interesting enough, in the automatic mode). All of this is just matter of opinion.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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Just another note:::I have owned other AMG cars, but this one (CLK63 BS) drives unlike any of them. The steering is different especially. The whole feel of the car is different...better. I have an F430 also, and it is more on that level with the handling and aggresive speed.
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