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Old May 28, 2008 | 01:54 AM
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Questions About a CLK63BS

Hi everybody,

Currently, I drive an '07 M6, and I love it. I've been looking into a CLK63 Black Series for about a month now. I've been comparing them to each other, and I'm just really liking the AMG more. One thing I've wondered about is the top end. I know from a dig, the AMG would take the M6, the torque difference is big. Lets say the two were going from a roll, would the 63 be able to beat the V10? I've raced an E63 from a roll before, and I beat him by about 2-3 car lengths up to 140-150'ish. Also, in stock form, what have most Black Series ran in the quarter mile? I've read 12.7 but I'm pretty sure they run lower times than that.

Different subject now, I found a silver 63BS with 3,000 miles, going for $125K. Does that sound like a good deal for the miles that are on it? I've seen one silver going for $124 with 1,000 miles, but I don't know that its that big of a deal really.

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Old May 28, 2008 | 02:52 AM
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As far as pricing goes, I paid $119,000 in early March for mine. Only 17 miles. Talk them down on the price.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 03:17 AM
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As far as pricing goes, I paid $119,000 in early March for mine. Only 17 miles. Talk them down on the price.
wow! now come to think of it, i was talking to someone i know who may be able to help me with this transaction. he said the 110k area was reasonable, i thought he was nuts compared to ur 119 for 17 miles, im thinking 108-110 is where it should be for the mileage!!!
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Old May 28, 2008 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Moose///M6
Hi everybody,

Currently, I drive an '07 M6, and I love it. I've been looking into a CLK63 Black Series for about a month now. I've been comparing them to each other, and I'm just really liking the AMG more. One thing I've wondered about is the top end. I know from a dig, the AMG would take the M6, the torque difference is big. Lets say the two were going from a roll, would the 63 be able to beat the V10? I've raced an E63 from a roll before, and I beat him by about 2-3 car lengths up to 140-150'ish. Also, in stock form, what have most Black Series ran in the quarter mile? I've read 12.7 but I'm pretty sure they run lower times than that.

Different subject now, I found a silver 63BS with 3,000 miles, going for $125K. Does that sound like a good deal for the miles that are on it? I've seen one silver going for $124 with 1,000 miles, but I don't know that its that big of a deal really.

Thanks for reading,

-Moose///M6

I've had both and the Black Series is quicker up to 100. I'd say after that its even or the M6 will pull a little.
Quarter mile times are consistently around 12 flat for the Black.



M6-
less expensive
more functionality
better highway car
better transmission

CLK63
more exclusive
better looking
faster
better exhaust note
tighter suspension
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Old May 28, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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Awesome, thanks for the help chiphomme. From your comparison and others, looks like the Black Series is more of what I'm looking for. We'll see how it goes.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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you will like the BS so much more - much more of a drivers car - if thats what your looking for. M6 much more of a GT car - have BS had M6
Price - check EBay ive seen most for 125-130 - one actually for 115 - but I personally feel that those idiots are going to ruin the resale for the rest of us. It stands to reason that w only 350 of them if we all kept selling price high including dealers we could set market value - thats why it pisses me off to see some idiot dealer in the middle of nowhere selling for 115.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Black Series are running low 12 second quarter miles. I ran 12.19 @ 117mph last October with mine when it was still bone stock with under 1000 miles on it.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Below 100mph BS is faster
Above 100mph M6 is faster
On track BS is faster


What you miss about the M6
-SMG3
-HUD
-S85 V10 a masterpiece

What you'll get with BS
-Even better handling
-even better brakes
-even rarer

Weak points of M6 are it is more of a GT than an out and out sports car (though much more sporty than SL63)
Weak points of BS are auto box (if you like to row your own gears) and that the 6.2liter is multi-platform

Chiphomme's advice is good to take on board. Overall your current car is great and so is the BS. G/luck in your search.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by transferred
Below 100mph BS is faster
Above 100mph M6 is faster
On track BS is faster


What you miss about the M6
-SMG3
-HUD
-S85 V10 a masterpiece

What you'll get with BS
-Even better handling
-even better brakes
-even rarer

Weak points of M6 are it is more of a GT than an out and out sports car (though much more sporty than SL63)
Weak points of BS are auto box (if you like to row your own gears) and that the 6.2liter is multi-platform

Chiphomme's advice is good to take on board. Overall your current car is great and so is the BS. G/luck in your search.
Everybody leaves out one thing. What you don't get with the M car is torque, and that is definitely there with the BS. For the M car, you really need to twist the engine to make the car go. The BS builds speed much more easily.
Personally, I think the M cars roll too much on the outside front tire when you really push. The BS absolutely does not.

And the great intangible: The BS feels much more alive from the dirver's seat. You can steer with the wheel, or steer with the throttle. It is much more precise. There is no mistaking a car with a 'locking" rear differential. It is really worth having. AS
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Old May 28, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Everybody leaves out one thing. What you don't get with the M car is torque, and that is definitely there with the BS. For the M car, you really need to twist the engine to make the car go. The BS builds speed much more easily.
Personally, I think the M cars roll too much on the outside front tire when you really push. The BS absolutely does not.

And the great intangible: The BS feels much more alive from the dirver's seat. You can steer with the wheel, or steer with the throttle. It is much more precise. There is no mistaking a car with a 'locking" rear differential. It is really worth having. AS
Tq is indeed a + point for the BS. However, when I pushing on tq becomes meaningless. I have opposite ends of the spectrum with my 262lb/ft M3 and my near 900lb/ft W220.

I have not driven the BS but don't doubt it will resist understeer better than the M6. The M6 is a funny car in that it is open to having it's flaws exposed by cars like the BS while the M5 being a practical "wolf in sheeps clothing" escapes that. I really think Motorsport should've made the M6 less compromised as it really is just an M5 in drag, not that that's a bad thing generally but for the perfect track weapon they could've done more.

However, I find that M cars are very steerable on the throttle.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Moose///M6
Different subject now, I found a silver 63BS with 3,000 miles, going for $125K. Does that sound like a good deal for the miles that are on it? I've seen one silver going for $124 with 1,000 miles, but I don't know that its that big of a deal really.

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My local dealer has a white one with 2K miles that I believe can be had for around $110K.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Timeless
My local dealer has a white one with 2K miles that I believe can be had for around $110K.
Wow, best color, lower mileage, much better price.

I think I'll make a decision by tomorrow weather im getting the 63BS or not. I'll keep you guys updated.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Moose///M6
Wow, best color, lower mileage, much better price.

I think I'll make a decision by tomorrow weather im getting the 63BS or not. I'll keep you guys updated.
I agree with the best color....

It's on ebay right now with a BIN of $113,375 OBO and has 2,678 miles. You won't regret buying this car. We've had 50+ cars and it brings a smile to my face everytime I look at it let alone drive it. Good luck.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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I agree with the best color....
... We've had 50+ cars and it brings a smile to my face everytime I look at it let alone drive it. Good luck.
Chuck, please stop. You're killing me.

Looks like the BIN was hit a couple of weeks ago and it fell through at 117.9.

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Old May 28, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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I agree with the best color....

It's on ebay right now with a BIN of $113,375 OBO and has 2,678 miles. You won't regret buying this car. We've had 50+ cars and it brings a smile to my face everytime I look at it let alone drive it. Good luck.
Perhaps I should say A CLk63 BS instead of THIS b/c I don't know anything about THIS particular CLK..... you get the idea.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Chuck, please stop. You're killing me.

Looks like the BIN was hit a couple of weeks ago and it fell through at 117.9.
Sorry, I just get such a kick out of this car! My wife thinks I'm nuts (well, she might have pretty good reason to think that....) it's just so much fun to play with!
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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Moose///M6
Wow, best color, lower mileage, much better price.

I think I'll make a decision by tomorrow weather im getting the 63BS or not. I'll keep you guys updated.
If you are interested, it is at Dick Dyer Mercedes here in Columbia.
(803) 786-8888 is the number. A nice sales rep named Jeremy should be able to help you out. Tell him that Sean sent you.

If you get it, let me know so I can get a bird dog fee.

Also, would love to do some runs against one.
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