Black Owner's Advice on the SLS
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I'm a big fan of the SLS
I love the styling of the car (very unique and has amazing road presence) and it does perform really well and sounds great ta boot. I drove the SLS extensively at my AMG Academy event last year (can't wait to do the next stage this year, hopefully their US schedule comes out soon!)
The SLS is a big car in length, but it just feels like an ICBM
I've never driven a CLK BS so I can't make any assessment on that, but styling wise, the CLK BS is looking soooo dated IMO. Obviously it's an older car and the power and gearbox is inferior, however I also like the CLK BS for what it is. If I could choose either one for "free" I'd obviously go for the SLS, however when you compare the real world pricing, it becomes a much harder decision. I think the CLK BS is a bargain for what it is and I think the MSRP when new was a bargain as well--the SLS still has a bigger WOW factor and is very unique on the road.
We as enthusiasts will notice the CLK BS coming down the road, but to most of the population, it's styling blends in with the rest of the MBs on the road. My half blind grandmother will notice the SLS, obviously some people want to blend in and some want to stand out, there's no right or wrong here, but the SLS is so Fu(king rad
I'd love to have both and think they're different enough from each other in many respects, plus the total number of CLK BS is so much smaller than the SLS and counting.
BTW I remember feeling like the SLS interior could have been nicer, the Navi and console area looked cheapy to me on a $200k car. I loved the black one I drove, it had CF trim, CF engine bay, CF door sills, red leather inside, CC brakes, etc. and it stickered for $220ish.
I would never get sick of opening and closing those gull wing doors
I love the styling of the car (very unique and has amazing road presence) and it does perform really well and sounds great ta boot. I drove the SLS extensively at my AMG Academy event last year (can't wait to do the next stage this year, hopefully their US schedule comes out soon!)
The SLS is a big car in length, but it just feels like an ICBM
I've never driven a CLK BS so I can't make any assessment on that, but styling wise, the CLK BS is looking soooo dated IMO. Obviously it's an older car and the power and gearbox is inferior, however I also like the CLK BS for what it is. If I could choose either one for "free" I'd obviously go for the SLS, however when you compare the real world pricing, it becomes a much harder decision. I think the CLK BS is a bargain for what it is and I think the MSRP when new was a bargain as well--the SLS still has a bigger WOW factor and is very unique on the road.
We as enthusiasts will notice the CLK BS coming down the road, but to most of the population, it's styling blends in with the rest of the MBs on the road. My half blind grandmother will notice the SLS, obviously some people want to blend in and some want to stand out, there's no right or wrong here, but the SLS is so Fu(king rad
I'd love to have both and think they're different enough from each other in many respects, plus the total number of CLK BS is so much smaller than the SLS and counting.
BTW I remember feeling like the SLS interior could have been nicer, the Navi and console area looked cheapy to me on a $200k car. I loved the black one I drove, it had CF trim, CF engine bay, CF door sills, red leather inside, CC brakes, etc. and it stickered for $220ish.
I would never get sick of opening and closing those gull wing doors
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"I've never driven a CLK BS so I can't make any assessment on that, but styling wise, the CLK BS is looking soooo dated IMO. Obviously it's an older car and the power and gearbox is inferior"-
As you said you've never driven a BS and it shows; enough said.
As you said you've never driven a BS and it shows; enough said.
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Supposedly, the CLK BS does handle better and has more race goodies, like the adj suspension, it's a BS it has a different DNA.
Is the CLK BS a better track car, maybe, but I think for the total pkg of street and track, the SLS is better IMO.
I like the CLK BS a lot, I just like the SLS more--maybe if I drove the CLK BS I would change my mind, but I don't think so
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I forgot about this thread . Since then I have bought an SLS and run it side by side with my black for several months . The sls is more comfortable and refined ( but not that much ) . The black is sharper , more aggressive and harder riding . However for sheer turn of speed a standard black is slower than an sls , everywhere .
Road or track the chassis of the sls is a match for ( and in fact superior to ) the black series . It is faster on every circuit I can think of . Tellingly the SLS runs MUCH less aggressive tyres and I am convinced the SLS will pull out an even bigger gap in performance on similar track focussed rubber . Styling and looks are subjective so I wont comment ( except to say I love both ).
BUT and this is the thing , It lacks the complete hooliganism and fantastic tactile feedback of the black . It is no way as much fun or characterful .Figures alone dont cut it in this case .
The SLS will be sold or swapped for the next in thing sooner or later , the Black will sit in my garage for all eternity quietly chuckling to itself confident in the knowledge that its a keeper .
Road or track the chassis of the sls is a match for ( and in fact superior to ) the black series . It is faster on every circuit I can think of . Tellingly the SLS runs MUCH less aggressive tyres and I am convinced the SLS will pull out an even bigger gap in performance on similar track focussed rubber . Styling and looks are subjective so I wont comment ( except to say I love both ).
BUT and this is the thing , It lacks the complete hooliganism and fantastic tactile feedback of the black . It is no way as much fun or characterful .Figures alone dont cut it in this case .
The SLS will be sold or swapped for the next in thing sooner or later , the Black will sit in my garage for all eternity quietly chuckling to itself confident in the knowledge that its a keeper .
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I forgot about this thread . Since then I have bought an SLS and run it side by side with my black for several months . The sls is more comfortable and refined ( but not that much ) . The black is sharper , more aggressive and harder riding . However for sheer turn of speed a standard black is slower than an sls , everywhere .
Road or track the chassis of the sls is a match for ( and in fact superior to ) the black series . It is faster on every circuit I can think of . Tellingly the SLS runs MUCH less aggressive tyres and I am convinced the SLS will pull out an even bigger gap in performance on similar track focussed rubber . Styling and looks are subjective so I wont comment ( except to say I love both ).
BUT and this is the thing , It lacks the complete hooliganism and fantastic tactile feedback of the black . It is no way as much fun or characterful .Figures alone dont cut it in this case .
The SLS will be sold or swapped for the next in thing sooner or later , the Black will sit in my garage for all eternity quietly chuckling to itself confident in the knowledge that its a keeper .
Road or track the chassis of the sls is a match for ( and in fact superior to ) the black series . It is faster on every circuit I can think of . Tellingly the SLS runs MUCH less aggressive tyres and I am convinced the SLS will pull out an even bigger gap in performance on similar track focussed rubber . Styling and looks are subjective so I wont comment ( except to say I love both ).
BUT and this is the thing , It lacks the complete hooliganism and fantastic tactile feedback of the black . It is no way as much fun or characterful .Figures alone dont cut it in this case .
The SLS will be sold or swapped for the next in thing sooner or later , the Black will sit in my garage for all eternity quietly chuckling to itself confident in the knowledge that its a keeper .
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Yep, that's right I never drove it, but I've had hot laps in a couple and saw enough in person to comment on the styling (which is obviously subjective) and the facts on power and gearbox are just that, facts.
Supposedly, the CLK BS does handle better and has more race goodies, like the adj suspension, it's a BS it has a different DNA.
Is the CLK BS a better track car, maybe, but I think for the total pkg of street and track, the SLS is better IMO.
I like the CLK BS a lot, I just like the SLS more--maybe if I drove the CLK BS I would change my mind, but I don't think so
Supposedly, the CLK BS does handle better and has more race goodies, like the adj suspension, it's a BS it has a different DNA.
Is the CLK BS a better track car, maybe, but I think for the total pkg of street and track, the SLS is better IMO.
I like the CLK BS a lot, I just like the SLS more--maybe if I drove the CLK BS I would change my mind, but I don't think so
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i think you missed my point though mate . i prefer my black series to the sls even though the sls is empirically better ..
as for the slr i have spent hours in them and they are vastly inferior to the sls in my experience . i passed on the slr , its very unresolved and confused as to what it should be . no way near the fun or complete drive an sls is imho . perhaps they are more useful on US roads than EU roads but i doubt it .
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I forgot about this thread . Since then I have bought an SLS and run it side by side with my black for several months . The sls is more comfortable and refined ( but not that much ) . The black is sharper , more aggressive and harder riding . However for sheer turn of speed a standard black is slower than an sls , everywhere .
Road or track the chassis of the sls is a match for ( and in fact superior to ) the black series . It is faster on every circuit I can think of . Tellingly the SLS runs MUCH less aggressive tyres and I am convinced the SLS will pull out an even bigger gap in performance on similar track focussed rubber . Styling and looks are subjective so I wont comment ( except to say I love both ).
BUT and this is the thing , It lacks the complete hooliganism and fantastic tactile feedback of the black . It is no way as much fun or characterful .Figures alone dont cut it in this case .
The SLS will be sold or swapped for the next in thing sooner or later , the Black will sit in my garage for all eternity quietly chuckling to itself confident in the knowledge that its a keeper .
Road or track the chassis of the sls is a match for ( and in fact superior to ) the black series . It is faster on every circuit I can think of . Tellingly the SLS runs MUCH less aggressive tyres and I am convinced the SLS will pull out an even bigger gap in performance on similar track focussed rubber . Styling and looks are subjective so I wont comment ( except to say I love both ).
BUT and this is the thing , It lacks the complete hooliganism and fantastic tactile feedback of the black . It is no way as much fun or characterful .Figures alone dont cut it in this case .
The SLS will be sold or swapped for the next in thing sooner or later , the Black will sit in my garage for all eternity quietly chuckling to itself confident in the knowledge that its a keeper .
The CLKBS feels like a track car, tighter, very nailed down. The SLS suspension feels great, but not like the Black. The SLS great looks, throttle blip, exhaust note, and dual-clutch gearbox are all huge pluses. Even with R compound rubber, you won't get the same CLKBS feel, but you'll certainly turn much faster lap times. Can't imagine how insane the SLS BS will be.
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WTDOOM, a quck question, as a person who has owned a CLKBS and has driven in the new c63BS how was the suspension? as you stated you will never sell your CLKBS and i feel the same way, but i am hesitant about pulling the trigger on the new c63BS if it rides like my wifes new c63 amg coupe(very soft compared to my black)
basically how stiff feeling was the suspension on the new C63 Black series and how did it compare to your SLS(as i have had a few laps in it, and think its a less firm ride than our CLK's)
basically how stiff feeling was the suspension on the new C63 Black series and how did it compare to your SLS(as i have had a few laps in it, and think its a less firm ride than our CLK's)
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WTDOOM, a quck question, as a person who has owned a CLKBS and has driven in the new c63BS how was the suspension? as you stated you will never sell your CLKBS and i feel the same way, but i am hesitant about pulling the trigger on the new c63BS if it rides like my wifes new c63 amg coupe(very soft compared to my black)
basically how stiff feeling was the suspension on the new C63 Black series and how did it compare to your SLS(as i have had a few laps in it, and think its a less firm ride than our CLK's)
basically how stiff feeling was the suspension on the new C63 Black series and how did it compare to your SLS(as i have had a few laps in it, and think its a less firm ride than our CLK's)
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I have driven both of them on a track day and the SLS is more refined and a little less exciting. But it is faster then the CLK63BS.
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