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Old 05-29-2018, 07:45 PM
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Stock AMG GTR in for a stage 1 dyno tune.
Stock: 449WHP 451WTQ
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Am i missing something? The tuned GTR has less horsepower than stock ? 527hp after tune? 577 before tune.
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Am i missing something? The tuned GTR has less horsepower than stock ? 527hp after tune? 577 before tune.
577 is crank power. This is 527WHP on a mainline dyno.
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Thanks for posting but I would think you would be higher than that as regular GTS dynoes at 54X to the wheels. I understand the "different day, different dyno" dynamic but it does not appear to be a Mustang dyno. I thought the GTR turbos were better than the GTS so you should yield more power. Maybe this is your first go at it and there's plenty left on the table.
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The engine stock has 577hp at the crank and that is conservative by all accounts. Are you really trying to tell us that stock there is a 22% drivetrain loss based on your rating of 449hp to the wheels? Are you serious? At most there should only be around 12%.

My stock GTR will pull away from well driven C7 Z06s on a straight at a road course, or reel them in, even if slowly. There is no way the car only has 449 horses at the wheels.

Try again.

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Guys just to chime in, I know the dyno personally and the operator- its a seriously low reporting dyno so dont get all hurt LOL. Yes it can be manipulated but this is a load bearing Mainline dyno which is lower than even Mustang and lets not remember the key points here:

The difference in the before and after on that exact dyno.

Would you all be more happy if the car had a higher starting point and finishing number yet still had the same gains over the curve and same results at the track?

PS: I have zero affiliation with the sponsor but know Mike at AutoWave for over 10 years and he has dynod many of my tuned cars.
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Good point Vic.

Eurocharged crank is 683 hp 627 Tq and has a warranty....

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Guys just to chime in, I know the dyno personally and the operator- its a seriously low reporting dyno so dont get all hurt LOL. Yes it can be manipulated but this is a load bearing Mainline dyno which is lower than even Mustang and lets not remember the key points here:

The difference in the before and after on that exact dyno.

Would you all be more happy if the car had a higher starting point and finishing number yet still had the same gains over the curve and same results at the track?

PS: I have zero affiliation with the sponsor but know Mike at AutoWave for over 10 years and he has dynod many of my tuned cars.
This is good to know Vic, and I trust your word 100%. And yes the delta is excellent.

Regardless though for someone not having you as a resource, the baseline 'numbers' really do make you wonder; at least it did me.

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This is good to know Vic, and I trust your word 100%. And yes the delta is excellent.

Regardless though for someone not having you as a resource, the baseline 'numbers' really do make you wonder; at least it did me.

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I hear you Dave. Consider that this Mainline is about 11-13% off of a, lets say, dynojet- that would lift the 527 hp closer to 595 hp whp or around similar crank numbers as Eurocharged at 683. I saw the numbers and was shocked too but the gains coupled with the Mainline that I know and I realized what was going on here.
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Originally Posted by Vic55
Guys just to chime in, I know the dyno personally and the operator- its a seriously low reporting dyno so dont get all hurt LOL. Yes it can be manipulated but this is a load bearing Mainline dyno which is lower than even Mustang and lets not remember the key points here:

The difference in the before and after on that exact dyno.

Would you all be more happy if the car had a higher starting point and finishing number yet still had the same gains over the curve and same results at the track?

PS: I have zero affiliation with the sponsor but know Mike at AutoWave for over 10 years and he has dynod many of my tuned cars.
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My point still stands that I expected the delta to be bigger on the GTR as it seems to be about the same as the GTS.

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