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I don't know about the added front end weight being a disadvantage if AWD. Audi was banned from racing in Trans Am due to it's un-fair advantage of AWD in racing.
I'd rather have AWD if it were available.

 

What are forum members hearing about GT R PRO allocations and estimated delivery dates? I heard 250 WW and 150 in the U.S. with deliveries in late '19; however, recently I heard that some of the U.S. allocations were being siphoned off to China because of their increasing demand for M-B AMG vehicles. I saw a post from someone in the U.K. saying that their allocation was small and that cars would likely go to prominent YouTubers, etc. Here in SoCal, dealers claim to receive huge "market adjustments" for specialty vehicles like the GT R, new G-Class, etc.

Also, when will order books open for the 2020 GT R now that the DOG is available, and will allocations/availability be restricted?

Thanks!

 

Still showing 150 only for the US on the Pro.. that's 3 a state lol

I bet as the GT cars age there will be less of them.. I got 6 GTR's last year, just one this year

 

Agreed, the car will NOT have AWD, but I bet it does get close to 700hp. Remember these motors are so underrated the GTR is already really 609hp according to Renntech
What the car WILL have to help put that power down is a big *** wing.

 

 

 

Thanks for the correction. Yes, the number I've seen is 750 WW with 150 in the U.S. (although I did see one report of 125 in the U.S. that appears to be incorrect).

 

Am I the only one that thought the AMG GTR Pro would have ran faster at N'ring? I know pulling off 6s from an already fast lap can be tough, but come one... I guess I'm just still p*ssed at the 991 GT2 RS.

 

 

 

 

Fingers crossed!

Hey don’t get me wrong, I’m a Merc’ guy! I was thrilled when the AMG GTR set that 7m10s lap. But that 991 GT2 RS is runing almost 30s faster. Can you get that out from a set of tires, considering they’re not slick tires?

 

With all the model-to-model comparisons between the AMG GT series and the Porsche 911, I'm wondering if the GTR R PRO was developed to be a more direct competitor to the 911 GT3 RS (limited production, somewhat more track-focused than the GT R). That would position the Black Series to be head-to-head with the 911 GT2 RS. I wonder if Mercedes-AMG thought that the GT R PRO would beat the GT3 RS based on respective lap times at other circuits. I can imagine the angst if they need to announce the car at launch in L.A. and find that the lap time is 7.04 and not faster than the GT3 RS. Good to hear that M-B might repeat the test under better conditions. Given the way Mercedes-AMG is competing, I would expect the Black Series to have a design requirement that says "beat the GT2 RS' time". But just about then, Porsche might put more race tech into a street version of the new GT2 RS Clubsport or use hybrid technology like the Panamera Turbo S but with less of a weight penalty…. We're living in good times.

Road & Track has an online list of the top 10 Nürburgring lap times dated 11/28/18. It's easy to Google it. I need MBWorld 101 so I can learn how to paste in a link; here it is typed in one letter at a time. http://www.roadandtrack.com/carcultu...g-lap-records/ It's great because it includes lap videos. Here are the AMG & Porsche lap times among AWD and RWD cars:
Porsche GT 2 RS: 6:47.25
Porsche GT 3 RS: 6:56.4
AMG GT R PRO: 7:04.63
AMG GT R: 7:10.92

Wikipedia has a relatively recent list of top 'Ring lap times (GT R PRO not incl.) with indicates that factory drivers did all of the fast laps for the Porsche cars, all with factory support, as was the case with the 911 GT3 (7.12.7). Sport Auto did the AMG GT R 7:10.92, not Mercedes, and while their results are pretty quick, on the Porsche GT3 RS they were slower than the factory team by 4 seconds - of course there are a lot of variables. The Wikipedia listing includes dates, driver names and equipment (tires, deleted options, etc.).

 

 

 

 

 

 

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