? recent Manheim numbers on '16 GTS
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Bought my 16 GTS last month for $79,295 w/ 35K miles. MSRP was $159,900. Car was in mint shape for a 3-yr old car, and was a MB Lease turn in--sold at MB auction. Still has 10 months factory warranty left as well. Good deals can be had but you have to look nationally.
I can't imagine that it will be much longer before the 2016s fall another $5-7K---as the 2017s will be coming available for $90K+ soon.
I can't imagine that it will be much longer before the 2016s fall another $5-7K---as the 2017s will be coming available for $90K+ soon.
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Bought my 16 GTS last month for $79,295 w/ 35K miles. MSRP was $159,900. Car was in mint shape for a 3-yr old car, and was a MB Lease turn in--sold at MB auction. Still has 10 months factory warranty left as well. Good deals can be had but you have to look nationally.
I can't imagine that it will be much longer before the 2016s fall another $5-7K---as the 2017s will be coming available for $90K+ soon.
I can't imagine that it will be much longer before the 2016s fall another $5-7K---as the 2017s will be coming available for $90K+ soon.
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What I don't understand about these auctions are - for a "plum" car, a rare car like a GT, why wouldn't the dealer CPO the car and resell it themselves? Why send it to auction? I can understand for the mass market volume C/E cars, that they can't CPO them all and turn them around and sell them, but why would any AMG GT car make it to auction?
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A lot of auction cars have hidden problems. Non reported body damage, buy backs, severe mechanical replacements, which tends to drive prices down. Don’t believe most of these are cherry cars.
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Maybe. But...anything that is hidden is hidden. Even on another resale. You won't find a 3 yr old daily drive without rock or window chips, brake wear, etc. I would argue way more auction cars had minor and normal wear than having something severe wrong. These cars (AMGs) have always taken huge hits. They are largely overpriced to begin with compared to the competition. But when you are buying a 6-figure luxury brand that is sold in large numbers, there just isn't room to hold value. Who would pay 6-figures for a 3 year old Benz??
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So you are telling me that MB wouldn't disclose major issues or warranty work, or damage, and then would off load it at auction? Hmmmm, that's not a great business model. If the car is leased it is serviced at MB. I would find it really hard to believe they would gloss over a vehicle issue, especially a major one. That's a major lawsuit waiting to happen. Look at what VW and Toyota have gone through. Too much risk for MB to hide issues with their leased...That's illegal.
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Ok, we are talking apples and oranges. AMG Acadmey vs MBUSA leased vehicle. You can't touch leased vehicle or modify it or do anything without it going back through MB. If you are claiming MB will doctor the books on their leased fleet, I'll have to respectfully disagree. Your notion that leased MB vehicles sold at auction have major defects or undocumented body work is pretty outlandish. MB, like every other company, has to document their work. I am more worried about a pre owned than a leased vehicle. Leases have far higher scrutiny when they come back and are required for service. Can't skip it. Besides, all of it is documented by MB and then on a CarFax.
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Agreed with the lease part. Having and bought and sold hundreds of cars at auction back in the day I can tell you that there are some freaky things that go on there. Especially the really low mileage cars because they’ve obviously sat and some are waiting for parts.
Vic I know you’re going to chime in here so what do you think?
Vic I know you’re going to chime in here so what do you think?
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Yeah, I'll buy this. There is a GTS for sale in Illinois that had 14,500 miles and 7 owners. Dealer told me that was normal, I said, "For criminals maybe". They were a Porsche dealer that took a trade obviously. But most leases through MB will be returned back to right before heading out to auction. Especially if the factory warranty still exists. I still argue they may not want to put a car on their lot that shows how badly they depreciate, but, I've never worked in the car business--so I'm only speculating.
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Interesting back and forth commentary, but it still doesn't give me any comfort to buy a used car like this at an auction - because of the inability to research the "hidden problems" issue. The other "safer" option might be through the MB owners club magazine ads. As far as the "selling side by side" issue, a dealer can actually make alot more profit selling one of these cars as a CPO than they do selling a new one.
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Anyone have auction prices on the GTR? It looks like they're starting to soften and I'm thinking about jumping into one if it falls into a range I'm comfortable with in the next few months. 
I imagine these are going to be hit just as hard as the GTS given the PRO and possibly Black Series are on the horizon.
I imagine these are going to be hit just as hard as the GTS given the PRO and possibly Black Series are on the horizon.
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Anyone have auction prices on the GTR? It looks like they're starting to soften and I'm thinking about jumping into one if it falls into a range I'm comfortable with in the next few months. I imagine these are going to be hit just as hard as the GTS given the PRO and possibly Black Series are on the horizon.
I imagine these are going to be hit just as hard as the GTS given the PRO and possibly Black Series are on the horizon.Last edited by Southpaw07; May 12, 2019 at 11:30 PM.
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I was strongly considering a GTS back in October when I did my test drive. At that point it looked like GTRs were still selling for over $180k so I never considered it, whereas the GTS could be had in the $9x,xxx range. I did find some info posted back in March and it looks like a couple GTRs were sold at auction for around $146k with low miles. That's starting to get within striking distance. Now the other dilemma is the .1 GT3 RS is starting to come down to reality and quite a number of them to choose from.
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