Thank you.

Ive been looking around for some good track tires on our sizes. What are you running? Standard SC2s?

 

no, as I felt that the front understeered far too much as it needed ‘more’ tyre.

I use the C7 Z06/7 OEM tyres which are the exact same tyres and sizes as the ROW option tyre for the GTR. I use them on a dedicated set of track wheels in the OEM size. These are the MPSC 2 ZP tyres:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...oModClar=Coupe

The car will handle great and these tyres are at a minimum, 2-3 seconds faster per lap at most tracks. Wider at both ends and stickier rubber. I start them at around 25-26 psi and hope to get them to around 32-33 psi hot. Rolling radius a little smaller but ESP/TC not upset at all as you’d expect as these are a factory option tyre. It does mean that at say, 70 mph indicated you are actually going about 68 mph via GPS.

Bish

 

I like it. Thank you for the informative response man.

 

A quick search on autotrader will show you that you can grab a 2018/19 unit basically new (less than 5K miles) for less than 250K. That's asking price and with a full warranty...

 

OK...man you MEN are thousands of times worse then a woman's sewing club to get established.
To answer your questions. I have an account with around 700 comments. I have been searching old posts to be able to remember both my screenname and password. Both are on an ex's computer and we no longer speak. Try as I may, I cannot find my old account as we used her email and she set a password. Had I had access to that account. you will see my posts and pics of my cars along with info on each.
Look.....I am 60 years old. I am not a stalker or poseur. I am a retired Professor who has collected Mercedes Benz vehicles for over 30 years. My first being gifted to me upon receiving my PhD. by my grandfather who had purchased it new in 1959.....the year I was born. He had it renovated with a rebuilt engine and transmission along with the total drive train. It was like receiving a new car and it was the beginning of my collection.
When I say I have had all SPECIAL AMGs, that is what I mean. I am NOT about to break down my collection for some moron who is now casting doubt of a man who has been a Mercedes man all my life.
Instead of fulfilling your request for pictures and further explanations that you are asking for, I will stand, drop trou and bend over. Now go to town.

And don't wear your lipstick this time.

 

LOL LOL LOL ROTFLMAO!!!!
FYI, the Black Series AMG was for the most part totally sold out BEFORE It was even announced to the public....previous owners only were advised of it's existence.
PLUS, NOT ONE MB dealer would attempt to place you in one of the most difficult models to purchase. They are NOT offered to anyone simply walking through their dealership seeking the starter GT. LOL Even my dealer had a GREAT laugh over that one today. ANY buyers have to jump through hoops just to get a consideration letter from the dealer...that is to the few that are being produced.
Out of 30 years of purchasing many MB vehicles....and no, I am NOT going to list them for you, nor will I be posting pictures for your satisfaction. I have nothing to prove to you at all.....but PLEASE keep harassing me as your posts sound like one of my granddaughters....and I love her and her juvenile behavior.
BTW, how old are you?

 

I am happy that you are impressed. That is why I work daily....or used to. Retired now.
Not that I owe you a thing, but I will entertain your weak plea and answer your questions....as tired as they are.
Yes, I have a very good 'in' at MB Germany and we have been friends since college.....for three years we were roommates until he went on to Oxford. We have maintained a close friendship all of these years with me traveling to his home many times over the years and he has been here in the US with us for many drives and auto gatherings. At one time, he had his 300 Gullwing flown here to be showcased at a major California Auto Event, leaving it with me in LA.
Was it you who asked where my other cars were? I have ZERO interest in any other manufacturers....I have had ONLY Mercedes all my life as did my father and his father before him. The very first MB purchased by my grandpa sits in my climate controlled warehouse in Westchester, NY....I also have one on my ranch in North Florida. And yes, both are filled with my families collectible Mercedes plus one Ferrari LaFerrari that I could not pass by. This is the ONLY car not a MB in my life's collection of cars. No other maker excites me regardless of their uber status.
I might be persuaded to pick up a 2015 918 as one of our group has two and wants to unload one to pick up his Hennessey Viper that he has been waiting for for over two years.
I know by reading not only this car forum but many others as well. I realize people do car name drop for attention but at my age....I am just past those games that young people play to gain attention for how they WANT to live. I have always said to dream big.....so go for it.
And I know MANY people I have met at events who cannot be more real and who do have the collections that their fellow car club members just want to believe they do not possess. If that makes people feel better about themselves, who are you to burst their bubble? EVERYONE on this forum can be doubted.
I could drive down Ocean Drive taking pictures and at the end of the day, I would have an entire photo album of all the uber cars that cruise up and down Ocean Drive.
If you care to call someone out, try someone who you can intimidate.....your bs threats do not faze me.

 

How many times do you contradict yourself in one comment?
First you say to purchase the AMG Black Series ONLY if you want it and really love it as it will not be worth much and you go on to quote the SLS BS. Not THAT rare. And compared, it was relatively cheap. I HAD ONE.
The AMG GT R BS Will NOT be mass produced...as of December, no more special orders (the only way to obtain one....better chances if you travel to Germany to purchase the European model that CAN BE imported to the US. It is a VERY limited model....and yes, I have one on order as does my father. We are among 4 in Westchester, NY where at least EVERY residence has one car that is an Uber or Hyper Car.

 

The production numbers for the past five years.
2015 - 1277
2016 - 1227
2017 - 1609
2018 - 1525 w/300 GT R, 250 Roadsters
2019 - 4208 w/750 Roadsters an estimated 500 GT R, *400 GT R PRO *may be slightly more depending on models that have been ordered but are yet to be completed. AMG GT BS - Undetermined as of 1/2020 estimated to be < 250 - 350 by special order only. None built as spec.

 

I could not agree more.
The first uber car I purchased on my own from a private owner was this elderly gentleman who one would think would be living on SS.
We walked the quarter mile from his residence to his garage / storage building warehouse. There were SO many cars it was mind boggling that one person could collect and maintain so many cars. Even at our first visit, he had a huge warehouse packed with some beautiful, well maintained rare vehicles. Everything from Model A's & T's up to 60's muscle cars I had not seen for decades. I recently visited him to see he had added a few Ferrari 458 Italias (3), an Enzo, a couple of Lambos, MANY McLaren.....most 720S models. And his favorite manufacturer, Porsche.....a long line of shiny, new looking Porsches with yet another 918 on display as his main collectible. That was the last time I visited him......to pick up three of his most collectible cars as he was finally liquidating his entire collection.
While I did pick up one MB, a resto mod 2010 S600....nearly sitting flat on the ground with a 1000 hp motor from a ZO 6 'Vette..yeah, strange combo but the wheels come off the ground on launch....the only S Class to do so.

But to attack a person who is new to the scene or even a veteran with many posts is just a sign of both insecurity and yes, JEALOUSY. I have encountered this a few times so far and just once did I agree to post pictures... of a large collection of some very rare cars belonging to three of us...dad, gramps and myself. After threatening messages and five phone calls threatening to steal the 918 then burn the warehouse down, I have vowed to NEVER post pictures again.
So ***** and whine and call me a fake all you want. I don't know you or care about what you think. I know who I am. what I have accomplished and how I have spent my own money. I DO NOT lie especially about something so trivial to try and impress some ******* strangers on an anonymous forum.
When I had my old account, and yes, I WILL find it just to prove my point, I had just as many doubters/haters to deal with even though I had pictures of my top collectibles. After that....NEVER again.

 

It doesn't sound like something he would say. Really? Now I know I can ignore you. LOL

 

The best posts always happen at 3am.

 

Where I am the 720S ****s money faster than just about any other car on the road. While the SLS BS is worth 3 times what it listed at.

Even if you assume a GT Blackseries will just do "ok" residuals wise, its still a far far better financial prospect than a 720S. The sticker price of these cars is irrelevant, cost of ownership and of course our own enjoyment is the only relevant part.

 

This thread turned out beautiful. In the beginning, you weren’t entirely sure where it was going - but in the end you know you are staring at a masterpiece.

 

I have no words......
My jaw is on the floor......
I apologize, mental illness is not something to be taken lightly, it is affecting a lot of unfortunate folks and I have only empathy for them.

 

You can also use Hoosier R7s 295/30/19F 335/25/19R

 

You are making the assumption that the new BS will hold it's value like the last one. AMG is no longer what it used to be and they are producing as many as people will buy. Would love to believe you but I am not willing to make that bet right now.
Not sure where you live but in the US, they sell for a bit more than MRSP. That is obviously great but it meant you could not really drive the car much (couple of thousand miles a year at best). Not what I am looking for as I want to enjoy the car.
For about the same amount you can buy a GT2RS which will run circles around the BS and I can drive it 7K a year without losing value.
I agree that Macs are horrible depreciation wise but pretty much on par with regular AMGs which is why I am contemplating a used one. What I am worried about is that the BS will not come close to the performance of the 720S on the streets. It's a toy after all and part of the enjoyment on my end comes from outperforming the competition.

 

No I’m not!

I literally said “even if you assumed the BS will just do ok residuals wise” .

I’m not sure why any number means you cannot drive the car much?

I'm not sure either how you know how fast an unreleased model will be?


This thread is a total joke.

 

The GTR and GTC are quite rare in their own right! Look at the numbers:
2018 saw 300 GTRs made, and perhaps 500? GTC? Maybe fewer than that.
2019 saw 500 GTRs (est), so you have probably 1000 or fewer GTRs and 1000 or fewer GTCs made globally.

The 750 limit on the Pro is probably never going to be reached. There isn’t the demand for it - as good as it is.

 

So wrong I don’t know where to begin.
Porsche GTs depreciate just as much over time - it’s hard to compare to Mercedes, since AMG has just started making supercar models. But look at an SLR MacLaren or an SLS and you’ll note the depreciation is not large. Meanwhile I’m seeing GT2RS sitting on lots selling for below MSRP new.

The 720 is a joke. Sure it handles well, and looks great, and is priced right; BUT... it’s an absolute joke in terms of build quality. Go and read the Maclaren forum. It’s an utter disaster. It will be worth $50k at best when out of warranty.

I love that your sure the 720 will destroy a BS. No one has driven a BS.

this thread has digressed into a waste of time

 

The GT Porsche not losing value is no longer true. Just look online to see how much they've tanked. One of my friends was able to experience both ends of the GT2 RS market. He got his first one for in 2018 $150K over MSRP. He got his second one in 2019 not because he was looking for it, but because the dealer begged him to take it and gave it to him for $30K under with delivery miles.

McLarens still depreciate the worst. An AMG will lose 50% of its value in 4 years and 40k miles. A 2018 720S is already approaching 50% of sticker for high spec cars with maybe 5000 miles.

I do agree with you that I do not predict the AMG GT BS will hold value like an SLS Black Series.

 

What in tarnations is happening here

 

Art.

 

We've got a lot of guys here who are able to see the future and are quite sure of that too.
No one has seen or driven the new B.S. but there are statements here that "GT2RS will drive circles around it".
If you can predict the future so well you should own the stock market by now......

 

This flat plane “rumor “ seems a lot more likely as of late. Very interesting AMG would alter the V8 so drastically.