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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 05:37 PM
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Black Series help please

Humbly asking if anyone can help me understand the process of getting an allocation for the upcoming GT black series ?
Can you share senior contacts at AMG sales management ?

Among other AMG cars, I now have purchased at the same dealer and traded back to him :

2016 GTS, 2018 GTR.... I now own a 2020 GTR pro (Arrived 3 weeks ago).

My dealer was able to get the Pro allocation for me through a lucky golf outing with AMG management last year and mentioning my history and loyalty to the brand and GT models....
but no identified networking path for Black series. ...

any help or advice.?

very grateful.
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Old Nov 28, 2019 | 04:52 PM
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The SLS Black Series almost doubled up in value. Best of luck sir.
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 03:23 PM
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The SLS Black Series almost doubled up in value. Best of luck sir.
According to Tobias Moers, the upcoming Black Series will be the most radical in history of that line, having nothing in common with current Pro, a real monster as he said and capable to run circles around the GT2RS.
Anyhow, maybe a bit exaggerated but still, I think we can expect a very special and incredibly desirable car, will be expensive at comfortably above $300k but the premiums will make the SLS Black's look like a bargain.
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 03:44 PM
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According to Tobias Moers, the upcoming Black Series will be the most radical in history of that line, having nothing in common with current Pro, a real monster as he said and capable to run circles around the GT2RS.
Anyhow, maybe a bit exaggerated but still, I think we can expect a very special and incredibly desirable car, will be expensive at comfortably above $300k but the premiums will make the SLS Black's look like a bargain.
I highly doubt that it will even come close to ‘running circles’ around a 991.2 GT2RS, as the car would need to perform at Macca Senna levels to do that. But, it will be something special I’m sure.

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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 04:10 PM
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I highly doubt that it will even come close to ‘running circles’ around a 991.2 GT2RS, as the car would need to perform at Macca Senna levels to do that. But, it will be something special I’m sure.

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I agree, thought it was a bit too much to say, trying to build more excitement and anticipation maybe?
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by absent
I agree, thought it was a bit too much to say, trying to build more excitement and anticipation maybe?
Is that an actual quote from Moers? Would love to see that.
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 08:00 AM
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Is that an actual quote from Moers? Would love to see that.
If I remember correctly, I read it on Motor1.
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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GTS 007
Humbly asking if anyone can help me understand the process of getting an allocation for the upcoming GT black series ?
Can you share senior contacts at AMG sales management ?

Among other AMG cars, I now have purchased at the same dealer and traded back to him :

2016 GTS, 2018 GTR.... I now own a 2020 GTR pro (Arrived 3 weeks ago).

My dealer was able to get the Pro allocation for me through a lucky golf outing with AMG management last year and mentioning my history and loyalty to the brand and GT models....
but no identified networking path for Black series. ...

any help or advice.?

very grateful.
your dealer should know by now whether he is getting one or two cars or nothing at all.
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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 12:14 AM
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whats the point of getting black series amg gtr when it has confirmed to have electric motors to boot the car up to 800 horse power? my advice to you just go buy a Porsche gt3 rs or gt2 rs if you can lmfao.
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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 09:16 AM
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whats the point of getting black series amg gtr when it has confirmed to have electric motors to boot the car up to 800 horse power? my advice to you just go buy a Porsche gt3 rs or gt2 rs if you can lmfao.
Where did you hear that?
GT63 is coming next year with that set up, GT Black Series does not going to have it.
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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mbamggt
whats the point of getting black series amg gtr when it has confirmed to have electric motors to boot the car up to 800 horse power? my advice to you just go buy a Porsche gt3 rs or gt2 rs if you can lmfao.

What are you babbling on about? This poor soul thinks he is on the P forum
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Old Dec 24, 2019 | 09:51 AM
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What are you babbling on about? This poor soul thinks he is on the P forum
He is confusing 2 different cars.
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Old Dec 25, 2019 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mbamggt
whats the point of getting black series amg gtr when it has confirmed to have electric motors to boot the car up to 800 horse power? my advice to you just go buy a Porsche gt3 rs or gt2 rs if you can lmfao.
What a useless post. The BS is going to annihilate the GT2 RS if it indeed will have the instant torque of electric motors and AWD. I believe the GTR Pro is basically tied with the GT2 RS on the Ring anyway.

That said, I doubt they will be able to fit a hybrid Powertrain in the BS. Almost zero chance.
My vote is that the 6.2L V8 will be back in the BS!
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Old Dec 25, 2019 | 03:42 PM
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Back to the OP post - if you have to ask how to get a BS, you’re not getting one.

The GTR Pro is not selling that well (and for good reason), so don’t confuse a Pro allocation to a BS allocation. My dealer offered me a Pro without even me asking. And that was before I bought my GTC.
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Old Dec 25, 2019 | 09:19 PM
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Back to the OP post - if you have to ask how to get a BS, you’re not getting one.

The GTR Pro is not selling that well (and for good reason), so don’t confuse a Pro allocation to a BS allocation. My dealer offered me a Pro without even me asking. And that was before I bought my GTC.
Invoice for the Pro at my dealer.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 07:22 AM
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What a useless post. The BS is going to annihilate the GT2 RS if it inde I believe the GTR Pro is basically tied with the GT2 RS on the Ring anyway.

That said, I doubt they will be able to fit a hybrid Powertrain in the BS. Almost zero chance.
My vote is that the 6.2L V8 will be back in the BS!
Complete rubbish. The BS is not going to annihilate the GT2RS. it will be a bad *** car, but it won’t beat that car. And it won’t have the 6.2 engine.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 08:32 AM
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Complete rubbish. The BS is not going to annihilate the GT2RS. it will be a bad *** car, but it won’t beat that car. And it won’t have the 6.2 engine.
Ah, thank you for this - what a surprise that @Mazspeed is actually Tobias Moers!!
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 08:41 AM
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I personally find the BS exclusivity obnoxious, it's a GD car!! Sell it as such you know? Ordered or first come first serve. All this crap about who plays golf with who, or who's *** has to be greased is completely asinine...........rant over.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 09:32 AM
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Unlike Porsche, who’s waiting lists and allocations are completely fabricated and stupid, the BS will actually be limited production. 500 units I believe.

With the GT3 series, Porsche plays the same game, but they are not limited in production.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 10:04 AM
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I personally find the BS exclusivity obnoxious, it's a GD car!! Sell it as such you know? Ordered or first come first serve. All this crap about who plays golf with who, or who's *** has to be greased is completely asinine...........rant over.
Well, it was pretty straightforward and honest with my dealer, no games and no need to perform oral on the dealer principal.
They put up for sale a left over 2019 GT63 S and announced whoever buys it will get the allocation.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 10:18 AM
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Well, it was pretty straightforward and honest with my dealer, no games and no need to perform oral on the dealer principal.
They put up for sale a left over 2019 GT63 S and announced whoever buys it will get the allocation.
that’s nice! Hope you get it!
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Ah, thank you for this - what a surprise that @Mazspeed is actually Tobias Moers!!
Naaaaa, It doesn’t take the head of AMG to figure out that they would not put in yesterday’s tech in their range topping car. Common sense did. And a little reading.
https://www.motor1.com/news/370334/a...eries-details/

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Naaaaa, It doesn’t take the head of AMG to figure out that they would not put in yesterday’s tech in their range topping car. Common sense did. And a little reading.
https://www.motor1.com/news/370334/a...eries-details/
Seems like you're not aware the GT3 has the 6.2L V8.
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Seems like you're not aware the GT3 has the 6.2L V8.
Seems like you’re not aware that the GT3 is a race car and not road legal. And that the article stated that the car was coming with a 4.0 tt. Again common sense but.....
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Originally Posted by GTS 007
Humbly asking if anyone can help me understand the process of getting an allocation for the upcoming GT black series ?
Can you share senior contacts at AMG sales management ?

Among other AMG cars, I now have purchased at the same dealer and traded back to him :

2016 GTS, 2018 GTR.... I now own a 2020 GTR pro (Arrived 3 weeks ago).

My dealer was able to get the Pro allocation for me through a lucky golf outing with AMG management last year and mentioning my history and loyalty to the brand and GT models....
but no identified networking path for Black series. ...

any help or advice.?

very grateful.
Ok I’ll try and outline MY UNDERSTANDING of the process for ordering all of these high end special Mercedes cars;

1. CONTRACT LAW 101 - Go to your dealer GM and offer to buy the GT Black.
2. Place a written and signed order by the GM or Sales Manager along with an agreed deposit (Customer/Buyer Offered and Dealer accepted)

3. Despite what you read here it is very important for you to know and understand the following;

A dealer order is just that an order that the dealer will sell you a car IF they have or will receive it.
ALL OFFICIAL ORDERS ARE MADE ONLINE BY THE DEALER AND OFFICIALLY ACCEPTED BY THE AMG FACTORY.
All factory accepted orders are assigned an order number that the factory and dealer use to track the build/ship process in the MB computer system in the plant in Germany.
IF YOU DON’T HAVE A ORDER NUMBER AND FACTORY ACCEPTANCE YOU DON’T HAVE A CAR ON ORDER.

As of the end of December the order system for the GT Black is closed with no officially known open date.
To date no Germany factory officially assigned GT Black dealer recepients have been identified.
To date their is no official Total number of Blacks to be built.

MY BEST GUESS is that by the end of the 1st quarter we will see some official information forthcoming FROM Germany.

ALSO, Please remember;
The build process takes about 4-6weeks from official start to finish and can be tracked through your dealer using your order number.
Unless things change radically for the better, plan on your completed car sitting at the MB VPC for another several months until the government plays nice and releases the car for delivery. (My GTR sat for over 7 months in the US less than 1 hour away before I could finally take delivery and buy it).

FWIW: Porsche and many other foreign imports experience the same delays year after year as well.

GOOD LUCK and I hope all of this insite helps.
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