19 AMG GTR: Tune or not to Tune?
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19 AMG GTR: Tune or not to Tune?
So my 2019 AMG GTR is coming this weekend and I am planning some upgrades such as brake cooling for the track. But the question is should I tune or not?
What do you think? Is it worth it? Stage 1 (no turbos or downpipes) or is too much risk with the warranty? What are some of the pros and cons? And if tune which one: renntech?
What do you think? Is it worth it? Stage 1 (no turbos or downpipes) or is too much risk with the warranty? What are some of the pros and cons? And if tune which one: renntech?
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Absolutely tune!
DME Tuning.
Pros:
-unleashes all the full potential, especially when dealing with reputable tuner experienced on the platform.
Cons:
-none, although many will try to panic you into all sorts of them.
-IF you choose a tuner make sure they are providing a nice linear tune so the throttle input isn’t choppy.
DME Tuning.
Pros:
-unleashes all the full potential, especially when dealing with reputable tuner experienced on the platform.
Cons:
-none, although many will try to panic you into all sorts of them.
-IF you choose a tuner make sure they are providing a nice linear tune so the throttle input isn’t choppy.
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Just make sure if you tune it use a tune that uses the handheld tuner thru the OBD port so you can reverse it yourself when you take it into the MB dealer for service or warranty.
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Interesting thing is why E63S or GT63S makes 630hp with the same motor vs 577hp in thr GTR, I am assuming it is all in the tune.
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Yeh I think Renntech does this, but doesnt ECU keep track of software updates anyway? I assume dealer will know if ECU was updated even if it goes back to stock.
Interesting thing is why E63S or GT63S makes 630hp with the same motor vs 577hp in thr GTR, I am assuming it is all in the tune.
Interesting thing is why E63S or GT63S makes 630hp with the same motor vs 577hp in thr GTR, I am assuming it is all in the tune.
If you do decide to, I'd go with Eurocharged. Renntech is vastly overpriced, and gives less performance.
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If you are wanting more power because you want to run the car at the drag strip, and if you are willing to pay out of pocket for a drivetrain failure, then by all means tune the car.
But on a road course this car has plenty of power, and you’ll need to treat the gas pedal as a rheostat, not an on-off switch. Otherwise you’ll loop the car easily at corner apex before track out. In other words on the vast majority of tracks, the 577 hp which Renntech found to be actually around 607 hp iirc, is more than enough. Money for the tune far better spent on alignment; brake upgrades; tyres/wheels, etc.
But on a road course this car has plenty of power, and you’ll need to treat the gas pedal as a rheostat, not an on-off switch. Otherwise you’ll loop the car easily at corner apex before track out. In other words on the vast majority of tracks, the 577 hp which Renntech found to be actually around 607 hp iirc, is more than enough. Money for the tune far better spent on alignment; brake upgrades; tyres/wheels, etc.
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But on a road course this car has plenty of power, and you’ll need to treat the gas pedal as a rheostat, not an on-off switch. Otherwise you’ll loop the car easily at corner apex before track out. In other words on the vast majority of tracks, the 577 hp which Renntech found to be actually around 607 hp iirc, is more than enough. Money for the tune far better spent on alignment; brake upgrades; tyres/wheels, etc.
Do you have the article which shows their findings of the GT R? I'm not disputing it, I just find that to be interesting.
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Tmemore, keep in mind Bish is not a bench racer, he tracks his GT R frequently and has done his upgrades as needed... He is one to listen too 
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fun ones.
GTRs have rolling roaded as high as 625bhp stock I believe but then there is a big variance between facilities.
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Renntech GTR at ring very fast. I believe 760hp.
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fun ones.
Always remember the first time I heard one of those. At 180mph it sounded like a spitfire trying to take off.
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Detuned for track use, maybe a heat issue.. I dont know.. But exhaust makes no sense.
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I think the lower HP rating on the GT R i s all done in the name of sales. The E63S has a 1000lbs on the GT R and needs the added HP to be relevant in its segment. Had the first run of the GT's been launched with 630HP in 2016, where would they go from there? We'd be disappointed that it didn't increase to 800HP today. They give us what they want to show us, not what we want. My 2 cents.
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I think the lower HP rating on the GT R i s all done in the name of sales. The E63S has a 1000lbs on the GT R and needs the added HP to be relevant in its segment. Had the first run of the GT's been launched with 630HP in 2016, where would they go from there? We'd be disappointed that it didn't increase to 800HP today. They give us what they want to show us, not what we want. My 2 cents.
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So my 2019 AMG GTR is coming this weekend and I am planning some upgrades such as brake cooling for the track. But the question is should I tune or not?
What do you think? Is it worth it? Stage 1 (no turbos or downpipes) or is too much risk with the warranty? What are some of the pros and cons? And if tune which one: renntech?
What do you think? Is it worth it? Stage 1 (no turbos or downpipes) or is too much risk with the warranty? What are some of the pros and cons? And if tune which one: renntech?
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Pretty sure the E63S has different manifolds and turbos than the GT lineup. Saw a discussion somewhere else on the forum about people trying to source those parts for their C63S.
For a street car or highway cruiser, I'd say tune it. For a track car, it depends on a few more things: your skill level, can the cooling system keep up, can the braking system keep up, etc.
For a street car or highway cruiser, I'd say tune it. For a track car, it depends on a few more things: your skill level, can the cooling system keep up, can the braking system keep up, etc.
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I think I will leave it stock for now...It will see track 3-5 DE events per year. I've been tracking my GT3 for a few years and have RS as well. I dont touch my Porsches (just center delete exhaust)..
Money better invested in break upgrade: cooling, rotors, pads.
Money better invested in break upgrade: cooling, rotors, pads.
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So my 2019 AMG GTR is coming this weekend and I am planning some upgrades such as brake cooling for the track. But the question is should I tune or not?
What do you think? Is it worth it? Stage 1 (no turbos or downpipes) or is too much risk with the warranty? What are some of the pros and cons? And if tune which one: renntech?
What do you think? Is it worth it? Stage 1 (no turbos or downpipes) or is too much risk with the warranty? What are some of the pros and cons? And if tune which one: renntech?
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THE E63S has a set of twin scroll twin turbos... not the gtr ( the amg gt black serie has the twin scroll twin turbos though)
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