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Old 08-19-2020, 07:59 PM
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Ok, got it. Well it has 6000km... so it's definitely not new, and it's been at 1-2 dealerships.

I mean, the cars are robust, and you have the full mfg warranty. I would recommend my AMG Certified mechanic at MB Oakville (I can PM you the full details). But I am rather particular about joyriders. My car had 220km on it which was a bit high, in my mind. But at that discount, it was worth it.

That said, I think $166k is a good price for a 2019 GTR. I would say you can buy a new GTC for $145K and see if they'll go to $155K - argue that the list price of both cars are nearly the same (which is true).
the good ol days of a new GTC around $145k sigh. had my w205 c63s for just over 4 years now and was considering a switch to the GTC. Would have to be a 2020 as even though the older models had a better console, id much rather get the upgraded pieces so it doesnt feel like my current car. first there are barely any for sale as i wouldnt want a convertible and asking price is $175k CAD yikes. the wait continues then
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the good ol days of a new GTC around $145k sigh. had my w205 c63s for just over 4 years now and was considering a switch to the GTC. Would have to be a 2020 as even though the older models had a better console, id much rather get the upgraded pieces so it doesnt feel like my current car. first there are barely any for sale as i wouldnt want a convertible and asking price is $175k CAD yikes. the wait continues then
the good ol days.. oh yes I remember them Late 2019 and Early 2021. Then it went BOOM.
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the good ol days.. oh yes I remember them Late 2019 and Early 2021. Then it went BOOM.
I hear you…! I think the price will momentarily drop when the new AMG GT is launched, as those who need the latest and greatest will sell their GTs. Buy one then and hold it! There will never be another gas engined AMG built on a bespoke chassis ever again.
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I hear you…! I think the price will momentarily drop when the new AMG GT is launched, as those who need the latest and greatest will sell their GTs. Buy one then and hold it! There will never be another gas engined AMG built on a bespoke chassis ever again.
when you say the new AMG GT launch..would those be the 2024s that are expected to come out later this year?
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Good info in this thread as I'm trying to decide between a low mileage C and an S, leaning towards the C. Thanks for all the posts. I kept laughing at some of the posts from UCIMBZ. He reminds me of a guy with a tiny weeny trying to convince himself that it's really not that small. "My wife says it's more than enough and it's easier/faster to clean a little one, it also fits in bathing suits easier! If I use a magnifying glass, it's actually REALLY big"

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Originally Posted by Oldfart01
Good info in this thread as I'm trying to decide between a low mileage C and an S, leaning towards the C. Thanks for all the posts. I kept laughing at some of the posts from UCIMBZ. He reminds me of a guy with a tiny weeny trying to convince himself that it's really not that small. "My wife says it's more than enough and it's easier/faster to clean a little one, it also fits in bathing suits easier! If I use a magnifying glass, it's actually REALLY big"
So did you end up going home with that guy?
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So did you end up going home with that guy?
Nope, I'm in a monogamous relationship with my herd of goats. They accept me as I am and they will not take my stuff if things don't work out!
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hey everyone, is there someone who has driven both the GTC and GTR?

Is the ride quality the same in both or is the GTR more harsh? Anyone driven a W205 C63s and is able to compare ride quality with either GTC or GTR?

I will almost never track my car, so is there any point in going for a GTR? Initially I was leaning towards a GTC but then lost interest once I found out that the GTR is wider in the front. Yes, aesthetics matter a lot to me

Also, if I was to get a GTC, I would surely 100% have to change that tiny little spoiler and those non amg dual exhaust tips. Keeping this in mind, is there any point in buying a GTC then?

Personally leaning towards a GTR although will have to be a little patient due to the prices but rather be patient than get a GTC and regret it later?

Also, this would be my daily driver and i will drive in winter too (just not while its snowing)
Thanks for any input!

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The GTR is not wider than the GTC - look at the specs. Tires are slightly wider but not the body.

Get the model you feel more connected to and don’t try to rationalize it. Personally, I had no interest in the GTR. I don’t track my cars, while I do plan to go once or twice, the GTC will be great.

Ride quality is much stiffer in the GTR, of course it is. I had a W204 C63 507 coupe, which I think is more stiffly sprung than you W205 and the GTC is actually more comfortable.

Good luck and enjoy!



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Originally Posted by Surge
Get the model you feel more connected to and don’t try to rationalize it. Personally, I had no interest in the GTR. I don’t track my cars, while I do plan to go once or twice, the GTC will be great.



Good luck and enjoy!

Hi Surge,

Sage advice, especially the part about what you feel connected with.

I am on the same page as you. I love the looks of the AMG GT, enough to want one, but I knew (know) I would never track the car and don't do the illegal street racing stuff either so I realized I would waste a GTR with all of the factory equipment that makes it so good on the track. I do track, just not this car.

To me it's the same notion like buying a dump truck to use as a daily driver - It'll get you there, but it would do so much better if it could haul some dirt.

Everyone still has to do what satisfies them, of course, just my two "sense" on the GTR.

Best,


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Buying a car like the AMG GT is not a rational purchase anyway. If you can afford it, go with the model you feel more emotionally connected to! You can certainly daily the GTR, no problems there, even in winter.

I personally prefer the look of the GTC, so that’s what I went with, even though most people would prefer the GTR, $ for $.
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Originally Posted by Surge
The GTR is not wider than the GTC - look at the specs. Tires are slightly wider but not the body.

Get the model you feel more connected to and don’t try to rationalize it. Personally, I had no interest in the GTR. I don’t track my cars, while I do plan to go once or twice, the GTC will be great.

Ride quality is much stiffer in the GTR, of course it is. I had a W204 C63 507 coupe, which I think is more stiffly sprung than you W205 and the GTC is actually more comfortable.

Good luck and enjoy!
Overall width you are correct - GTC and the GTR are the same. In the front the GTR is wider. Fenders are different to compensate for a wider wheel/offset - its approx 40mm wider. I've owned both - swapped wheels; currently have the GTR Pro. Its wider (front).

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In the front the GTR is wider.
Exactly. Untamedd was correct.
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Originally Posted by Surge
The GTR is not wider than the GTC - look at the specs. Tires are slightly wider but not the body.

Get the model you feel more connected to and don’t try to rationalize it. Personally, I had no interest in the GTR. I don’t track my cars, while I do plan to go once or twice, the GTC will be great.

Ride quality is much stiffer in the GTR, of course it is. I had a W204 C63 507 coupe, which I think is more stiffly sprung than you W205 and the GTC is actually more comfortable.

Good luck and enjoy!


EDIT: Looks like you guys beat me to this

The dimension info is misleading.
Mercedes does make it very difficult to understand the dimensions when they only point out the widest points. First off, the graphics are misleading. The 81.7" width is not the front but the widest point (mirrors), so no differentiator between all models. The 79" (actually 78.6") width is the same between the GTC and GTR.
The front width, however, is the same between the GT, GTS and GTC while the GTR coupe and roadster looks to be 1.8" wider.
This article mentions it: https://www.autoweek.com/news/auto-s...atment-geneva/
Also, a quick look at the fenders, fender vent designs and front bumper easily demonstrates the difference in width between the models.

It would really be nice to put this to rest, once and for all. Any GTR owner wanting to measure the front end width (wheel arches) and track width?

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Hi Surge,

Sage advice, especially the part about what you feel connected with.

I am on the same page as you. I love the looks of the AMG GT, enough to want one, but I knew (know) I would never track the car and don't do the illegal street racing stuff either so I realized I would waste a GTR with all of the factory equipment that makes it so good on the track. I do track, just not this car.

To me it's the same notion like buying a dump truck to use as a daily driver - It'll get you there, but it would do so much better if it could haul some dirt.

Everyone still has to do what satisfies them, of course, just my two "sense" on the GTR.

Best,
it's not just about the purpose of car itself.

As you mention, it's about personal taste. If the buyer likes some of the design queues of the GTR vs the more buttoned down GTC, to add them it can quickly add up to GTR pricing (and still never get to GTR function). It's not as linear as "I won't track it, so I don't need the GTR".

Decide what you like and get what you want - if its the design itself, that's good enough! Keep in mind, they look close but it is EXPENSIVE to make a GTC look (let alone act) like a GTR. I had a GTC before my Pro and made some OEM updates with the GTR spoiler etc. No regrets, but when I was done, I could have just purchased a GTR for the costs.

Also, some things are just not easily added to the GTC after, such as the wider front end, unless you have $20K burning a hole in your pocket.
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it's not just about the purpose of car itself.

As you mention, it's about personal taste. If the buyer likes some of the design queues of the GTR vs the more buttoned down GTC, to add them it can quickly add up to GTR pricing (and still never get to GTR function). It's not as linear as "I won't track it, so I don't need the GTR".

Decide what you like and get what you want - if its the design itself, that's good enough! Keep in mind, they look close but it is EXPENSIVE to make a GTC look (let alone act) like a GTR. I had a GTC before my Pro and made some OEM updates with the GTR spoiler etc. No regrets, but when I was done, I could have just purchased a GTR for the costs.

Also, some things are just not easily added to the GTC after, such as the wider front end, unless you have $20K burning a hole in your pocket.
You also had the GTC roadster which was the exact same price as the GTR coupe
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You also had the GTC roadster which was the exact same price as the GTR coupe
gonna chalk it up to really fun RnD. At the time, no one had done the wing or a swap with the GTR wheels!

Kinda bummed that the new owner didn't surface here so I could see the car live on in the wild. All I know is that the buyer was up in the NY state area of the country and bought it without seeing it in person.
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In real life, the GTC/R wide body is much more obvious, but can be missed on a dark colored car. Idk how that poster thinks rear wheel steering isn't desirable?

If you have never seen a GTC/R and don't care for the steering then go for the GT/S because power wise - the GT/S can be tuned. I will say, once I saw a GT/S rear vs my GTC - I was glad I went with the wide girl.
I know you are against roadsters, but the wide body looks much more obvious on the roadster vs coupe so the differences might not be as obvious to you either way. Regardless, the GT series is pretty phenomenal. Also get ready to see that TCS light go off a lot.
That is the exact spec i want!!!! Yellow Roadster /////AMG 🏅🫰
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