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Old 01-06-2020, 11:10 AM
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Canada is NA. For them even the GT is not available anymore. It is either GTC or GTR.
That’s exactly what I said. GTS is not available anymore in North America but elsewhere in the world..
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I’m considering going to see a 2016 GTS Edition 1 with 21k kms on it. Asking $109k CAD. Warranty ends this year. How much of an issue is no warrant on these cars along with the higher kms?

My thoughts are towards a GTS or a GTR. Unless A GTC is a great deal and in the $115k to $120k price realm, I would rather go with a GTR, which can be had for $160k to $170k CAD.
To reiterate, you can buy a brand new 2019 GTC in Canada now for $140-150K, after negotiation. GTR is at best around $190K, since they are 2020 models. I went through this debate a few months ago when I bought my GTC.
For me, the choice was clear: I far prefer the 2019 interior and think it will deprecate less than the 2020. And for the way I drive the car, the GTC makes sense. The massive savings was a bonus.
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Originally Posted by Razzy
I’m considering going to see a 2016 GTS Edition 1 with 21k kms on it. Asking $109k CAD. Warranty ends this year. How much of an issue is no warrant on these cars along with the higher kms?

My thoughts are towards a GTS or a GTR. Unless A GTC is a great deal and in the $115k to $120k price realm, I would rather go with a GTR, which can be had for $160k to $170k CAD.
Important to drive all before making a financial choice. Financials should be secondary if willing to entertain all models.
That said, willing to spend $109k on an old 2015 car (2016 model) which probably also sat for a while if warranty is still active, and then only willing to go up $5-$11k for much newer, higher-end model with more features is puzzling. I love the GTR but I remember that GTC was as close to the GTR price wise as the GT was to the GTS. There was a gap between the 2 groups for a reason.

Even though we have the GTC roadster which we love, if getting a coupe the GTR/GTR Pro would be the only choice. Track time be damned
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Originally Posted by Surge
To reiterate, you can buy a brand new 2019 GTC in Canada now for $140-150K, after negotiation. GTR is at best around $190K, since they are 2020 models. I went through this debate a few months ago when I bought my GTC.
For me, the choice was clear: I far prefer the 2019 interior and think it will deprecate less than the 2020. And for the way I drive the car, the GTC makes sense. The massive savings was a bonus.
Dude we all get it... You seem to think that someone not choosing a GTC is a slight against your own purchasing decision. How many times, in the same thread, are you going to reiterate why you chose model X over Y.
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Old 01-06-2020, 02:08 PM
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Dude we all get it... You seem to think that someone not choosing a GTC is a slight against your own purchasing decision. How many times, in the same thread, are you going to reiterate why you chose model X over Y.
Haha.

I chose the Pro. I would choose it again and am currently daily driving it in the winter. Car is too much fun. I am unsure why anyone would say these don't make great DDs. I even put a car seat in the front for my 5yr daughter. She loves it.
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Originally Posted by jn66
Haha.

I chose the Pro. I would choose it again and am currently daily driving it in the winter. Car is too much fun. I am unsure why anyone would say these don't make great DDs. I even put a car seat in the front for my 5yr daughter. She loves it.
My man! Driving them how they deserve to be driven. Does it have anchor points, I thought I remember seeing some, but wasnt looking for them specifically. They have so much storage space that I love taking the car everywhere I can feasibly take it.
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My man! Driving them how they deserve to be driven. Does it have anchor points, I thought I remember seeing some, but wasnt looking for them specifically. They have so much storage space that I love taking the car everywhere I can feasibly take it.
They do! Work great as well. The openings in the seat back make it easy.





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Every one is passionate about the car they chose! Let me add some dung to the pile...The Pro is such a gimmicky pep boys special. You have the GTR (Which they originally marketed it as the cream of the crop in performance) then you have the GTR "Pro" then you have the Black Series. What the hell was the reason for a "Pro"? So much more Pro than a GTR? So if you own a GTC or a GTS or a GTR you are not a "Pro" or "Pro enough"???!?? Seems like what benz and many other companies do....throw the last run of parts on a "limited edition" release, add some stickers, vents, more carbon (More carbon dammit!! People want more carbon! They are suckers for that ****! Wider! Add wings! CARBON rear feder skirts or whatever you call those pieces of crap. Make it look Gundam Style!!!) increase the price by $20K and people will slurp them up!!!! Stupid consumers and marketing ploys. But, then again...not really slurping....Pros ares sitting around dealerhsips rotting away. I guess it doesn't hurt if you can get them discounted. But those interiors.....uggghhh. A mouse pad, console buttons and magic lights, a steering wheel that has enough buttons on it that Texas Instruments calculators are jealous over....shhhhivers...

I don't think I can even fit a Pro into my garage, and my garage is nicely sized. I do like the roof scoop on the pro though. Looks cool and air flows nicely through that crease.

In any event, this is pretty much it boys. Grab em while you can. Benz is saying goodbye to these gas guzzling dinosaurs!

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Jn66, Nice set up....Just out of curosity, is your car leased?
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Jn66, Nice set up....Just out of curosity, is your car leased?
Thanks.

It isn’t leased. Why do you ask? Hopefully not due to some car seat liability I’m unaware of haha!
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Thanks.

It isn’t leased. Why do you ask? Hopefully not due to some car seat liability I’m unaware of haha!
Sometimes those child seats can leave nasty dimples or even tear through thin leather. It happened to me once (good grief!)...just be careful. Otherwise looks safe and must be fun!
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Sometimes those child seats can leave nasty dimples or even tear through thin leather. It happened to me once (good grief!)...just be careful. Otherwise looks safe and must be fun!
****. Thanks for the heads up. Our other vehicle has a rubber mat underneath the car seat. Maybe I'll steal it and used it in this one hah! Good call.
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ZephyrAMG:

I can actually see a lot of sense in making limited quantities of a GTR that was even more track oriented, that being the Pro version. Much more track biased suspension, plus some useful increased ‘Aero’ addenda, and presto you have a version that track rats would purchase preferentially over the normal GTR. There’s only what, 750 of them being made for World wide consumption? And the icing on the cake will of course be the BS, and then no more this generation of GT.

MB chose to make the Pro since the GTR deals nicely with the Porsche GT3 on track, and the Pro (in the right hands) is the version to attack the GT3 RS. Ultimately the BS will be going after the GT2RS records.

From a marketing perspective it makes sense to me.

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I’ve seen two GTR Pro’s sitting at local dealerships.

List price: $250k CAD

Yeah...**** that 😂😂
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Here are two GTR’s not too far from me. None have CCB’s.

2019 Mercedes-Benz AMG GTR on autoTRADER.ca
http://www.autotrader.ca/go/5-47066164

2019 Mercedes-Benz AMG GTR on autoTRADER.ca
http://www.autotrader.ca/go/5-46724048
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Originally Posted by Razzy
Here are two GTR’s not too far from me. None have CCB’s.

2019 Mercedes-Benz AMG GTR on autoTRADER.ca
http://www.autotrader.ca/go/5-47066164

2019 Mercedes-Benz AMG GTR on autoTRADER.ca
http://www.autotrader.ca/go/5-46724048
The green is a bit more iconic for the car, even though that kind of turns me off personally from green hell, but looks like it has more option boxes ticked, such as upgraded sound system/aluminum speaker covers, yellow contrast stiching/seatbelts, etc.
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Originally Posted by Orcbolg
The green is a bit more iconic for the car, even though that kind of turns me off personally from green hell, but looks like it has more option boxes ticked, such as upgraded sound system/aluminum speaker covers, yellow contrast stiching/seatbelts, etc.
Yeah, but that car seems to be listed once at two dealerships. On one of the ads it states the vehicle has CCB but when I contacted the dealership it’s supposedly at, they said it doesn’t have CCB.

I know the it’s the same vehicle listed at two places because when I contacted the dealership with the other ad they said they are the ones who have the vehicle currently and that its listed at another dealership. I asked for spec sheet and no response yet.

the two ads in question:

2019 Mercedes-Benz AMG GTR on autoTRADER.ca
http://www.autotrader.ca/go/5-45649031

2019 Mercedes-Benz AMG GTR on autoTRADER.ca
http://www.autotrader.ca/go/5-47066164
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Originally Posted by NYCSoiL
One will always think that GTS/GTC is enough until one drive the GTR. My opinion if you already thinking about spending that much money and want to keep the car for long go with 2018/2019 GTR.
Dude, the GTC is very similar to the GTR. Let’s all get aligned on the facts.
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Originally Posted by Razzy
Yeah, but that car seems to be listed once at two dealerships. On one of the ads it states the vehicle has CCB but when I contacted the dealership it’s supposedly at, they said it doesn’t have CCB.

I know the it’s the same vehicle listed at two places because when I contacted the dealership with the other ad they said they are the ones who have the vehicle currently and that its listed at another dealership. I asked for spec sheet and no response yet.

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2019 Mercedes-Benz AMG GTR on autoTRADER.ca
http://www.autotrader.ca/go/5-45649031

2019 Mercedes-Benz AMG GTR on autoTRADER.ca
http://www.autotrader.ca/go/5-47066164
Don’t know why you would spend $30K more for a used GTR vs a brand new GTC, but that’s your call...

I will say the High End audio is a Major improvement over the standard Burmester. Plus, the metal grills look so much better.
Nice touch that a Chinese person assembled the engine and owned it!

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Don’t know why you would spend $30K more for a used GTR vs a brand new GTC, but that’s your call...

I will say the High End audio is a Major improvement over the standard Burmester. Plus, the metal grills look so much better.
Nice touch that a Chinese person assembled the engine and owned it!
The GTC’s here are overpriced, not to mention majority in my area are all Convertibles except two. The Kitchener one is a demo and for $144k and 3k kms. I’d rather not buy a vehicle test driven by anyone and everyone.


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The GTC’s here are overpriced, not to mention majority in my area are all Convertibles except two. The Kitchener one is a demo and for $144k and 3k kms. I’d rather not buy a vehicle test driven by anyone and everyone.
You can negotiate heavily. Find a low priced one on Autotrader and use it to get the discount you want on the car you want. I paid $150k for a fully loaded brand new GTC. That includes the $7K worth of exterior carbon. So without that and without the Burmester HE, you should be at around $135K. Feel free to use my deal as a bargaining chip, I just bought it 90 days ago.

I’d rather not buy a vehicle test driven by anyone and everyone.
Totally agree. What do you think happened to the GTR with 6000km?!
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You can negotiate heavily. Find a low priced one on Autotrader and use it to get the discount you want on the car you want. I paid $150k for a fully loaded brand new GTC. That includes the $7K worth of exterior carbon. So without that and without the Burmester HE, you should be at around $135K. Feel free to use my deal as a bargaining chip, I just bought it 90 days ago.


Totally agree. What do you think happened to the GTR with 6000km?!
I’ve tried with the 2 GTC coupes I’ve seen ads on. All playing hardball.

as for the green hell GTR, how can you ascertain that it’s been joyrided by randoms?
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I’ve tried with the 2 GTC coupes I’ve seen ads on. All playing hardball.

as for the green hell GTR, how can you ascertain that it’s been joyrided by randoms?
Ok, got it. Well it has 6000km... so it's definitely not new, and it's been at 1-2 dealerships.

I mean, the cars are robust, and you have the full mfg warranty. I would recommend my AMG Certified mechanic at MB Oakville (I can PM you the full details). But I am rather particular about joyriders. My car had 220km on it which was a bit high, in my mind. But at that discount, it was worth it.

That said, I think $166k is a good price for a 2019 GTR. I would say you can buy a new GTC for $145K and see if they'll go to $155K - argue that the list price of both cars are nearly the same (which is true).
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The whole conversation seems to have devolved quite a bit. Now it's just about pricing and how many miles on the car... Razzy, have you even driven a single GT model? If so, which one did you like the most and why?

Anyways, you Canadians are lucky with these nice prices. Except the Edition 1 GTS. That thing is completely overpriced compared to the GTR's etc.
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Ok, got it. Well it has 6000km... so it's definitely not new, and it's been at 1-2 dealerships.

I mean, the cars are robust, and you have the full mfg warranty. I would recommend my AMG Certified mechanic at MB Oakville (I can PM you the full details). But I am rather particular about joyriders. My car had 220km on it which was a bit high, in my mind. But at that discount, it was worth it.

That said, I think $166k is a good price for a 2019 GTR. I would say you can buy a new GTC for $145K and see if they'll go to $155K - argue that the list price of both cars are nearly the same (which is true).
There is another 2019 GTR for $159k CAD. Not bad at all.


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