Getting a used GT S
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Getting a used GT S
Hi all!
I've previously owned a C63 Coupé -17 which I loved, unfortunately I decided to sell it and got a Cadillac CTS-V and a BMW M4 which was a bad decision, both were horrible cars.
Since there is very few C63S Coupés for sale where I live (Northern Europe, seriously like 5 of them for sale currently) I've been looking at AMG GT S which are starting to come down at reasonable price levels.
As I am not very familiar with those cars, what are the must-have options and what should I look out for?
Thankful for all advices
Edit;
I guess a good piece of information would be
-Will not be used for daily driving
-Will not be used for track driving
If anyone has owned both the C63 and the AMG GT, please give your point of view on pros and cons
I've previously owned a C63 Coupé -17 which I loved, unfortunately I decided to sell it and got a Cadillac CTS-V and a BMW M4 which was a bad decision, both were horrible cars.
Since there is very few C63S Coupés for sale where I live (Northern Europe, seriously like 5 of them for sale currently) I've been looking at AMG GT S which are starting to come down at reasonable price levels.
As I am not very familiar with those cars, what are the must-have options and what should I look out for?
Thankful for all advices
Edit;
I guess a good piece of information would be
-Will not be used for daily driving
-Will not be used for track driving
If anyone has owned both the C63 and the AMG GT, please give your point of view on pros and cons
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Hi all!
I've previously owned a C63 Coupé -17 which I loved, unfortunately I decided to sell it and got a Cadillac CTS-V and a BMW M4 which was a bad decision, both were horrible cars.
Since there is very few C63S Coupés for sale where I live (Northern Europe, seriously like 5 of them for sale currently) I've been looking at AMG GT S which are starting to come down at reasonable price levels.
As I am not very familiar with those cars, what are the must-have options and what should I look out for?
Thankful for all advices
Edit;
I guess a good piece of information would be
-Will not be used for daily driving
-Will not be used for track driving
If anyone has owned both the C63 and the AMG GT, please give your point of view on pros and cons
I've previously owned a C63 Coupé -17 which I loved, unfortunately I decided to sell it and got a Cadillac CTS-V and a BMW M4 which was a bad decision, both were horrible cars.
Since there is very few C63S Coupés for sale where I live (Northern Europe, seriously like 5 of them for sale currently) I've been looking at AMG GT S which are starting to come down at reasonable price levels.
As I am not very familiar with those cars, what are the must-have options and what should I look out for?
Thankful for all advices
Edit;
I guess a good piece of information would be
-Will not be used for daily driving
-Will not be used for track driving
If anyone has owned both the C63 and the AMG GT, please give your point of view on pros and cons
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I was ambivalent on the Dynamic Package Plus (but wanted it if I could). What is important personally varies by person, but I try to at least consider desirable items for resale/optimal combinations as well for the time resale comes up. Thus, I wanted the Burmester High End (absolutely worth it vs standard, and much more palatable second hand than the 4500 brand new option), no panoramic roof (a little more unusual, a little less weight), black pack (US specific I think?), and was very particular on interior color...I wanted the saddle as it is tough to come by in the US and I personally loved it.
I think in europe they had two seat options, definitely go for the performance seats if you can.
I think in europe they had two seat options, definitely go for the performance seats if you can.
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I was ambivalent on the Dynamic Package Plus (but wanted it if I could). What is important personally varies by person, but I try to at least consider desirable items for resale/optimal combinations as well for the time resale comes up. Thus, I wanted the Burmester High End (absolutely worth it vs standard, and much more palatable second hand than the 4500 brand new option), no panoramic roof (a little more unusual, a little less weight), black pack (US specific I think?), and was very particular on interior color...I wanted the saddle as it is tough to come by in the US and I personally loved it.
I think in europe they had two seat options, definitely go for the performance seats if you can.
I think in europe they had two seat options, definitely go for the performance seats if you can.
Regarding the Panoramic roof (which you do not prefer), is it firm or can you tilt/open it?
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Honestly I'm a bit confused here -the one I've been looking at does not have the DPP (which does not seem to common on Sweden-sold vehicles), it does however have the Track Pack which contains dynamic engine mounts and on top of that it has this option (479 ADJUSTABLE SUSPENSION). Is that basically the same as DPP? I've seen imports for sale in Sweden which does have DPP.
Regarding the Panoramic roof (which you do not prefer), is it firm or can you tilt/open it?
Regarding the Panoramic roof (which you do not prefer), is it firm or can you tilt/open it?
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Here's the full spec of the car - I think it looks solid - am I missing out on anything?
Interior EXCLUSIVE LEATHER - GRAY (558A)
Paint 1 IRIDIUM SILVER SHAPE (982U)
Release Date 2015-08-10
Delivery Date 2015-09-04
Code Description
10B OPERATORS MANUAL AND SERVICE BOOKLET SWEDISH
110 FUEL AMOUNT FOR COLLECTION BY CUSTOMER
1U3 VEHICLE WAXING
218 REAR-VIEW CAMERA
220 PARKTRONIC SYSTEM (PTS)
22P TRACK PACKAGE
231 GARAGE DOOR OPENER
234 BLIND SPOT ASSISTANT
242 ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE RIGHT DRIVER SEAT W MEMORY
249 INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR MIRROR,AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING
253B MB MOBILO WITH DSB
258 COLLIS.WARN. SYS. W/ ACTIVE BRAKE INTERV. FCW STOP
260 TYPE DESTINATION ON TRUNK LID - ELIMINATION
275 MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
340B INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/HU LANGUAGE - SWEDISH
350 MBCONNECT - ECALL EUROPE EMERG. CALL SYS. GEN. 2
3U1 EUROPE/CIS COUNTRIES/MONGOLIA HEAD UNIT
416 PANORAMIC FIXED GLASS ROOF
429 7-SPEED AUTOMATIC DUAL CLUTCH TRANSMISSION
467 ELECTRONIC LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL
475 TIRE PRESSURE CONTROL
476 AUTOMATIC LANE RECOGNITION
479 ADJUSTABLE SUSPENSION
500 ELECTRIC FOLDING OUTSIDE MIRROR
502 3 YEARS OF MAP UPDATES FREE OF CHARGE
513 TRAFFIC SIGN RECOGNITION
531 COMAND APS NTG5/NTG5.5
550A EXCLUSIVE LEATHER TRIM
551 BASIC ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM (ATA)
555 AMG PERFORMANCE SEAT
558A EXCLUSIVE LEATHER - GRAY
569L SWEDEN
581 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL
5U9 INTERIOR STRUT IN CARBON MATT
5XXL EUROPE
608 AUTOMATIC HIGH BEAM SWITCH (IHC)
61U ROOF LINER MICROFIBRE BLACK
632 RIGHT-HAND TRAFFIC STATIC LED HEADLAMP
657 AMG SPOKED WHEELS 19"/20" WITH MIXED TIRES
67V SPEED- + LOADINDEX 98Y XL+101Y XL
6P5 STEUERCODE VERTRIEB FUER CODE 475 ANFORDERUNG
806 AEJ 25/1
810 PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
815 DVD SINGLE DRIVE
820 VEHICLES FOR TOURIST
840 DARK TINTED GLASS
871 SENSORS FOR TRUNK LID OPENING/CLOSING
873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
877 AMBIENCE ILLUMINATION
882 SENSOR SYSTEM AND ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM
889 KEYLESS - GO
915 FUEL TANK WITH GREATER CAPACITY - VOLUME 2
927 EURO 6 TECHNOLOGY EXHAUST GAS CLEANING
968 COC PAPER EURO6 TECH. W/O REGISTRATION CERT.PART 2
982U IRIDIUM SILVER SHAPE
989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
B07 AMG - CERAMIC BRAKE SYSTEM
B29 DOOR SILLS IN CARBON
B51 TIREFIT
B54 MBCONNECT - REAL-TIME TRAFFIC DATA
C52 DUST CAP
F190 MODEL SERIES 190
FC COUPE
GA AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
H77 TRIM PIECES - CARBON MATT
HA REAR AXLE
HL LEFT REAR AXLE HALF
HR RIGHT REAR AXLE HALF
K11 ADAPTIVE STOP LIGHT FLASHING
K14 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 20000 KM
L LEFT-HAND STEERING
L6I AMG STEERING WHEEL LEATHER / MICROFIBER
M014 ENGINE INCREASED PERFORMANCE
M178 V8 GASOLINE ENGINE M178 - AMG
M40 CAPACITY 4,0 LITRE
P17 KEYLESS-GO PACKAGE
P49 MIRRORS PACKAGE
P54 THEFT PROTECTION PACKAGE
P60 AMG NIGHT PACKAGE, EXTERIOR
P64 FRONT MEMORY PACKAGE
R01 SUMMER TIRES
U18 AUTOMATIC CHILD SEAT RECOGNITATION (AKSE)
U40 CARGO NET BEHIND FRONT SEATS
U72 DVD PLAYER WITH REGIONAL CODE 2, EUROPE, JAPAN
U78 SWITCHABLE EXHAUST SYSTEM
U98 LITHIUM ION STARTER BATTERY (LISB)
VL FRONT AXLE HALF, LEFT
VR FRONT AXLE HALF, RIGHT
Paint 1 IRIDIUM SILVER SHAPE (982U)
Release Date 2015-08-10
Delivery Date 2015-09-04
Code Description
10B OPERATORS MANUAL AND SERVICE BOOKLET SWEDISH
110 FUEL AMOUNT FOR COLLECTION BY CUSTOMER
1U3 VEHICLE WAXING
218 REAR-VIEW CAMERA
220 PARKTRONIC SYSTEM (PTS)
22P TRACK PACKAGE
231 GARAGE DOOR OPENER
234 BLIND SPOT ASSISTANT
242 ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE RIGHT DRIVER SEAT W MEMORY
249 INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR MIRROR,AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING
253B MB MOBILO WITH DSB
258 COLLIS.WARN. SYS. W/ ACTIVE BRAKE INTERV. FCW STOP
260 TYPE DESTINATION ON TRUNK LID - ELIMINATION
275 MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
340B INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/HU LANGUAGE - SWEDISH
350 MBCONNECT - ECALL EUROPE EMERG. CALL SYS. GEN. 2
3U1 EUROPE/CIS COUNTRIES/MONGOLIA HEAD UNIT
416 PANORAMIC FIXED GLASS ROOF
429 7-SPEED AUTOMATIC DUAL CLUTCH TRANSMISSION
467 ELECTRONIC LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL
475 TIRE PRESSURE CONTROL
476 AUTOMATIC LANE RECOGNITION
479 ADJUSTABLE SUSPENSION
500 ELECTRIC FOLDING OUTSIDE MIRROR
502 3 YEARS OF MAP UPDATES FREE OF CHARGE
513 TRAFFIC SIGN RECOGNITION
531 COMAND APS NTG5/NTG5.5
550A EXCLUSIVE LEATHER TRIM
551 BASIC ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM (ATA)
555 AMG PERFORMANCE SEAT
558A EXCLUSIVE LEATHER - GRAY
569L SWEDEN
581 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL
5U9 INTERIOR STRUT IN CARBON MATT
5XXL EUROPE
608 AUTOMATIC HIGH BEAM SWITCH (IHC)
61U ROOF LINER MICROFIBRE BLACK
632 RIGHT-HAND TRAFFIC STATIC LED HEADLAMP
657 AMG SPOKED WHEELS 19"/20" WITH MIXED TIRES
67V SPEED- + LOADINDEX 98Y XL+101Y XL
6P5 STEUERCODE VERTRIEB FUER CODE 475 ANFORDERUNG
806 AEJ 25/1
810 PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
815 DVD SINGLE DRIVE
820 VEHICLES FOR TOURIST
840 DARK TINTED GLASS
871 SENSORS FOR TRUNK LID OPENING/CLOSING
873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
877 AMBIENCE ILLUMINATION
882 SENSOR SYSTEM AND ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM
889 KEYLESS - GO
915 FUEL TANK WITH GREATER CAPACITY - VOLUME 2
927 EURO 6 TECHNOLOGY EXHAUST GAS CLEANING
968 COC PAPER EURO6 TECH. W/O REGISTRATION CERT.PART 2
982U IRIDIUM SILVER SHAPE
989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
B07 AMG - CERAMIC BRAKE SYSTEM
B29 DOOR SILLS IN CARBON
B51 TIREFIT
B54 MBCONNECT - REAL-TIME TRAFFIC DATA
C52 DUST CAP
F190 MODEL SERIES 190
FC COUPE
GA AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
H77 TRIM PIECES - CARBON MATT
HA REAR AXLE
HL LEFT REAR AXLE HALF
HR RIGHT REAR AXLE HALF
K11 ADAPTIVE STOP LIGHT FLASHING
K14 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 20000 KM
L LEFT-HAND STEERING
L6I AMG STEERING WHEEL LEATHER / MICROFIBER
M014 ENGINE INCREASED PERFORMANCE
M178 V8 GASOLINE ENGINE M178 - AMG
M40 CAPACITY 4,0 LITRE
P17 KEYLESS-GO PACKAGE
P49 MIRRORS PACKAGE
P54 THEFT PROTECTION PACKAGE
P60 AMG NIGHT PACKAGE, EXTERIOR
P64 FRONT MEMORY PACKAGE
R01 SUMMER TIRES
U18 AUTOMATIC CHILD SEAT RECOGNITATION (AKSE)
U40 CARGO NET BEHIND FRONT SEATS
U72 DVD PLAYER WITH REGIONAL CODE 2, EUROPE, JAPAN
U78 SWITCHABLE EXHAUST SYSTEM
U98 LITHIUM ION STARTER BATTERY (LISB)
VL FRONT AXLE HALF, LEFT
VR FRONT AXLE HALF, RIGHT
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Very good option package. The carbon ceramic braking system is nice$$$$$. Now the 22p is Lane Tracking option and has nothing to do with Dynamic Plus. Cars with Dynamic Plus have yellow accent lighting around the numbers in the gage cluster.
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The carbon brakes are a nice option as they don't dust, last a long time, and look spectacular. They do need a bit of heat in them in my experience.
I have a track-only mini, so I may only track my GTS a few times for the experience, but if I were to track often, I would go for the steel brakes. It does seem in the US that the carbon brakes help will resale price
I have a track-only mini, so I may only track my GTS a few times for the experience, but if I were to track often, I would go for the steel brakes. It does seem in the US that the carbon brakes help will resale price
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Looks like a very nicely spec’d car which isn’t always the case in Europe and the CCB’s are a nice bonus ($9k option).Take them over steels any of the week.
Car will stay cleaner and they brake well.
Good luck!
Car will stay cleaner and they brake well.
Good luck!
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For those of you who know, how big of a difference is the driving experience in a DPP compared to a non-DPP car?
The carbon brakes are a nice option as they don't dust, last a long time, and look spectacular. They do need a bit of heat in them in my experience.
I have a track-only mini, so I may only track my GTS a few times for the experience, but if I were to track often, I would go for the steel brakes. It does seem in the US that the carbon brakes help will resale price
I have a track-only mini, so I may only track my GTS a few times for the experience, but if I were to track often, I would go for the steel brakes. It does seem in the US that the carbon brakes help will resale price
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Otherwise I assume that I am not missing out on anything else except the Dinamica cloth.
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In the "Race" drive program and in manual mode "M", performance-oriented software settings are applied, which deliver even better response and optimised handling. In the interior the AMG Performance steering wheel trimmed in DINAMICA microfibre and yellow highlights in the instrument cluster round off the AMG DYNAMIC PLUS Package.
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Hi folks,
Sorry for hijacking this thread but I am a visitor from the C63 forum and am considering a GTs but have not found one to my liking quite yet. Only a matter if time.
Aside from the options question posed by the OP, any years to avoid (like the C63 such as pre-facelift, head bolt issue prior to mid 2011, etc)... How about the GT?
I am thinking 2017 but I recall reading some mentions on the C63 forum about headaches with the early GTs.
Any thoughts/advice for me as I continue the search?
Sorry for hijacking this thread but I am a visitor from the C63 forum and am considering a GTs but have not found one to my liking quite yet. Only a matter if time.
Aside from the options question posed by the OP, any years to avoid (like the C63 such as pre-facelift, head bolt issue prior to mid 2011, etc)... How about the GT?
I am thinking 2017 but I recall reading some mentions on the C63 forum about headaches with the early GTs.
Any thoughts/advice for me as I continue the search?
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Hi folks,
Sorry for hijacking this thread but I am a visitor from the C63 forum and am considering a GTs but have not found one to my liking quite yet. Only a matter if time.
Aside from the options question posed by the OP, any years to avoid (like the C63 such as pre-facelift, head bolt issue prior to mid 2011, etc)... How about the GT?
I am thinking 2017 but I recall reading some mentions on the C63 forum about headaches with the early GTs.
Any thoughts/advice for me as I continue the search?
Sorry for hijacking this thread but I am a visitor from the C63 forum and am considering a GTs but have not found one to my liking quite yet. Only a matter if time.
Aside from the options question posed by the OP, any years to avoid (like the C63 such as pre-facelift, head bolt issue prior to mid 2011, etc)... How about the GT?
I am thinking 2017 but I recall reading some mentions on the C63 forum about headaches with the early GTs.
Any thoughts/advice for me as I continue the search?
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The dynamic performance package also has some digital gauges that you can bring up on COMMAND screen. In looking at the option list, the car in question seems to have and option called M014 ENGINE INCREASED PERFORMANCE which sounds like the one of the dpp features. So maybe the car has all the individual options of the dpp but marketed differently in rest of the world vs US.
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The dynamic performance package also has some digital gauges that you can bring up on COMMAND screen. In looking at the option list, the car in question seems to have and option called M014 ENGINE INCREASED PERFORMANCE which sounds like the one of the dpp features. So maybe the car has all the individual options of the dpp but marketed differently in rest of the world vs US.
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It is the propshaft/driveshaft, and for what it is worth, a part that was subcontracted. It was really only effecting early production and they had a proactive TSB on it, but they have since recently expanded. Mine is a bit later production for the first MY and I just had it done.
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The carbon brakes are a nice option as they don't dust, last a long time, and look spectacular. They do need a bit of heat in them in my experience.
I have a track-only mini, so I may only track my GTS a few times for the experience, but if I were to track often, I would go for the steel brakes. It does seem in the US that the carbon brakes help will resale price
I have a track-only mini, so I may only track my GTS a few times for the experience, but if I were to track often, I would go for the steel brakes. It does seem in the US that the carbon brakes help will resale price
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Take note: Premium sound does NOT mean Surround Sound. There is a very big difference.
Also, Make sure there is a hub cap removal tool in with the flat tire repair kit or you will have a heck of a time finding one if you have a flat,
Also, Make sure there is a hub cap removal tool in with the flat tire repair kit or you will have a heck of a time finding one if you have a flat,
