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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 03:05 PM
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Few questions regarding to the depreciation of GT S

As I’m looking to buying a used 2017 AMG GT S and keep it for at least 2 years, I really care about its depreciation curve in the future (specifically US market). And I have few questions:

1. When is the new model(resigned inside-out) expected to come out?
2. Does GT S hold better value than a 911 4S?

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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 03:24 PM
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Don’t overthink this man. It’s a great deal @almost 50% depreciation on those miles. I’m sure there are others here that will buy it if you don’t.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 03:38 PM
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I think it's hit rock bottom.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 04:48 PM
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1) Assuming the GT follows the typical Mercedes cycle which is normally 8 years, you can expect the car to be replaced in 2022 or 23. However, given that its the top end car of the range, you never really know if they are gonna follow their typical cycle.

2) Over the next 2 years, I would expect a 911 4S to probably hold its value better than the GT, just simply given how well Porsches manage to hold their value. I don't think the GT is done depreciating or even close to done just given how many are produced. With that said, I think a 2017 GTS would be a great purchase as it's at the point where it is still very new but the large hit of depreciation has already been taking so you can swoop in and get a bargain for an amazing car. Regardless of depreciation, I think the GTS blows the 911 out of the water in pretty much every category and I think you will be very happy if you end up with one.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fullvietfx
I think it's hit rock bottom.
used to be they had a 7-8 year model cycle with a mid cycle refresh in between. Seems MB threw out this policy with the GT... it was introduced as a 16 model up here and by model year 2018 had a meaningful refresh with the GTR introduction. Model year 19 was introduced spring of 2019 and 2020 models were already on dealer lots by late July 2019...

Now you can find 2019’s with healthy discounts and 2020’s have cash discounts on them only...

Its confirmed that the next gen GT will share a traditional front engine/trans layout with the new SL AND it will be AWD...rumours have it launching as a 2021 or 22. Who knows....

All the things combined with Euro noise regulations will likely mean the GT will be I think something of value down the road, I’m just not sure how far down the road and how much value😎. In the mean time if you are concerned with depreciation and really aren’t interested in driving it then move on to the sterile Porsche world. Yes they hold their value and some of their cars (gt2/3/rs) are meaningful when treated and driven the way they should be...

If you want a car that will reward driving skill and looks like nothing else out there my advise is pick up the GTS and enjoy it. I’ve had 2 (GTS/C) and I’m looking for my third...

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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 05:14 PM
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Your money will “depreciate” rapidly on a vacation, a trip to Vegas, etc....
Don’t worry about it, it’s a fun luxury, buy-drive-enjoy. When you trade it in at the 2-year mark, it will be worth something towards your next depreciating fun toy!
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DriveAMG
used to be they had a 7-8 year model cycle with a mid cycle refresh in between. Seems MB threw out this policy with the GT... it was introduced as a 16 model up here and by model year 2018 had a meaningful refresh with the GTR introduction. Model year 19 was introduced spring of 2019 and 2020 models were already on dealer lots by late July 2019...

Now you can find 2019’s with healthy discounts and 2020’s have cash discounts on them only...

Its confirmed that the next gen GT will share a traditional front engine/trans layout with the new SL AND it will be AWD...rumours have it launching as a 2021 or 22. Who knows....

All the things combined with Euro noise regulations will likely mean the GT will be I think something of value down the road, I’m just not sure how far down the road and how much value😎. In the mean time if you are concerned with depreciation and really aren’t interested in driving it then move on to the sterile Porsche world. Yes they hold their value and some of their cars (gt2/3/rs) are meaningful when treated and driven the way they should be...

If you want a car that will reward driving skill and looks like nothing else out there my advise is pick up the GTS and enjoy it. I’ve had 2 (GTS/C) and I’m looking for my third...

Appreciate your reply! Yes, I’ve made my decision to just go for a 2017 model and simply enjoy the car.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 08:24 PM
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Mercedes hold a good value , not quite as much as a Porsche , but pretty good value. Way better than a corvette , mustang, dodge.
unless you own a 911 Porsche and a gts and drive each other daily you really get to appreciate the difference in each car ,
Gts mucho horsepower , Porsches just handle much better .

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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 08:37 PM
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The AMG GT is less special and exclusive than the SLS AMG, but more special and exclusive than a regular SL. The SLS Gullwing bottomed our around 60% its MSRP, but it’s a gullwing. The SLS roadster bottomed out at half its MSRP. The regular SL variants depreciate far more, bottoming out around 10% of their MSRP when in decent shape (5% of MSRP when they end up in the hands of broke people who can’t afford to maintain a Corolla let alone an SL).

If I were to make an educated guess, I’d say AMG GT coupes will bottom out at 45% of MSRP, roadsters at 40%. The AMG GT is closer to the SLS than the SL in desirability and exclusivity, but still less sexy and more common than the SLS, particularly the Gullwing coupe. For example, AMG GT S coupes will probably bottom out around $60k USD.

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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wizee
The AMG GT is less special and exclusive than the SLS AMG, but more special and exclusive than a regular SL. The SLS Gullwing bottomed our around 60% its MSRP, but it’s a gullwing. The SLS roadster bottomed out at half its MSRP. The regular SL variants depreciate far more, bottoming out around 10% of their MSRP when in decent shape (5% of MSRP when they end up in the hands of broke people who can’t afford to maintain a Corolla let alone an SL).

If I were to make an educated guess, I’d say AMG GT coupes will bottom out at 45% of MSRP, roadsters at 40%. The AMG GT is closer to the SLS than the SL in desirability and exclusivity, but still less sexy and more common than the SLS, particularly the Gullwing coupe. For example, AMG GT S coupes will probably bottom out around $60k USD.
Appreciate your reply! I’m looking at a used 2017 model with almost al the options (include CCB). The question is that would all those options make a difference when I resale the car?
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Yingjie Xu
Appreciate your reply! I’m looking at a used 2017 model with almost al the options (include CCB). The question is that would all those options make a difference when I resale the car?
Not likely. I know when I bought my 2016 GT S, last year, options did not affect pricing in any meaningful way.
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Not likely. I know when I bought my 2016 GT S, last year, options did not affect pricing in any meaningful way.
Agreed, options have a relatively small impact on resale value.

Right now, there’s an oversupply of AMG GT cars for sale (around 1000 for sale in the USA, a mix of new and used, coupe and cabrio). Thus, it’s easy for a buyer to get any interior and colour combination they want. However, the supply will dimish in a few years once they’re no longer for sale new, and existing units are in the hands of long term owners. Once that happens, my experience is that coloured cars (ie. not white/silver/grey/black) command a premium, particularly rarer colours, due to demand exceeding supply. The upgraded interiors (fancier leather, quilted seats etc) will also probably pull a slight premium. The majority of AMG GTs (around 70-75% excluding the AMG GT R) are non-coloured, so I expect colours to pull a slight premium.
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 10:33 AM
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Appreciate your reply! I’m looking at a used 2017 model with almost al the options (include CCB). The question is that would all those options make a difference when I resale the car?
The depreciation on a heavily optioned car is higher as the value of options is diminished.

In short, good for a 2nd hand buyer

Moving forward mileage and condition will have a bigger impact on resale value than options
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Yingjie Xu
Appreciate your reply! I’m looking at a used 2017 model with almost al the options (include CCB). The question is that would all those options make a difference when I resale the car?

In my opinion YES they will. Why? Because the stripped version will not be a attractive to the next buyer if the price of yours is reasonable.
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Originally Posted by wizee
Agreed, options have a relatively small impact on resale value.

Right now, there’s an oversupply of AMG GT cars for sale (around 1000 for sale in the USA, a mix of new and used, coupe and cabrio). Thus, it’s easy for a buyer to get any interior and colour combination they want. However, the supply will dimish in a few years once they’re no longer for sale new, and existing units are in the hands of long term owners. Once that happens, my experience is that coloured cars (ie. not white/silver/grey/black) command a premium, particularly rarer colours, due to demand exceeding supply. The upgraded interiors (fancier leather, quilted seats etc) will also probably pull a slight premium. The majority of AMG GTs (around 70-75% excluding the AMG GT R) are non-coloured, so I expect colours to pull a slight premium.
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I would avoid CCB...

Your one rock in the rotor away from a $5-7k part plus labor...
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Your one rock in the rotor away from a $5-7k part plus labor...
Opposite for me. Prefer CCB's. MB steel brakes have the worst brake dust. To me that alone makes CCB's attractive. Thats for street use...

For track use there is great info on this forum how to prep your car (Pads, shims, fluid and ducts)
We did have our front rotors/pads replaced on our E63s from what I thought might have been road debris but it was a manufacturing flaw in the composite.
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