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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 12:14 PM
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Used AMG GT Base, S, or C for a Daily Driver?

I'm starting to look at used, low mile AMG GT's. Mainly, I would just like to know which trim line would suit me best, the Base, S, or C? This would be for daily driving on long, flat, straight roads (central Florida), and it's highly doubtful I would ever track the vehicle. My enthusiast's enjoyment would be on ramps, the occasional stop light sprint, and highway pulls. The AMG GT itself appeals to me because like two previously owned Nissan GT-Rs it's a high performance you seldom see. Now, not going to compare between Godzilla and MB AMG, that's apples and oranges! I did previously lease a '17 MB AMG C63 Cariolet. LOVED the exhaust with the rumble, crackles and pops. The downside was the limited trunk space because of the rag top, but there were also back seats to stow things. So I'm probably going to pass on the AMG GT convertible. I will need to be able to make the weekly grocery run for my family of four, as well as stow two backpacks when taking my son to his bus stop and then on to work. Also, I've come accustomed to Android Auto and would prefer to have that (not sure which AMG GT's have it and model years). Other than that, any advice on what packages/options to look for, and why?
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The answer somewhat depends on the price point and preference on the facelift design or the wide body.
The GTC's only started from model year 18 (facelift) while the GTS was available from early 2015 as a MY16. Certain options are default on one vs options on the other. Power-wise there are differences but nothing that a tune couldn't fix. The GTC has the wide body and rear wheel steering (my preference) but some don't care for it. Forget about Android Auto (MY20 and up only) unless you are OK with a 3rd party retrofit.
Overall, I would drive all three of them unless budget rules one out. Figure out what design, features and options are important to you and then go for the best deal. You really can't go wrong with either.

I like Carbon Ceramics, High end Burmester maybe nice. Also the exclusive nappa interior is a must IMO. On a coupe I would pick the glass roof (we live in the land of 5 months+ snow). On a GTC the DPP is default; to me a must as is the blind spot detection which should be standard for a car with limited visibility.

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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 05:02 PM
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The answer somewhat depends on the price point and preference on the facelift design or the wide body.
The GTC's only started from model year 18 (facelift) while the GTS was available from early 2015 as a MY16. Certain options are default on one vs options on the other. Power-wise there are differences but nothing that a tune couldn't fix. The GTC has the wide body and rear wheel steering (my preference) but some don't care for it. Forget about Android Auto (MY20 and up only) unless you are OK with a 3rd party retrofit.
Overall, I would drive all three of them unless budget rules one out. Figure out what design, features and options are important to you and then go for the best deal. You really can't go wrong with either.

I like Carbon Ceramics, High end Burmester maybe nice. Also the exclusive nappa interior is a must IMO. On a coupe I would pick the glass roof (we live in the land of 5 months+ snow). On a GTC the DPP is default; to me a must as is the blind spot detection which should be standard for a car with limited visibility.
Thanks for the insights and recommendations, Wolfman!
I think even though power could be bumped up for the base model with a tune, but I would like to avoid that while I still have a warranty. Plus I like the wide body and rear wheel steering. Regarding Android Auto retrofit, any idea what that would involve and would cost? I think I read an article about that and it involved a module that plugged into the ECU. But I'm not sure if there was an add on piece of hardware or not. With the nice built in displays already for the '18 or '19 up, it would probably look like an add on if some hardware actually had to be mounted. So while Android Auto is not going to be a deal breaker, I find it odd that such a feature which is offered now on all "regular" vehicles wasn't available until the MY20 year.

Yes, I will test drive a base, S and C and see what I think about each. I may have to do so in Orlando, because the MB dealership here in Melbourne tends to feature more to the bland of vehicles, colors, and trims. For example, right now they have a new 2020 AMG GT base for $130K, but in blah-blah white and black interior. As for CCB's not necessary for me. As I said in my OP this will be a DD. Higher end Burmeister, yes! Glass roof? Ehh, I live in central Florida so I'd probably not seek that out. And Nappa leather, I'll just have to see and feel it in person, as well as what the interior color scheme is.
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Thanks for the insights and recommendations, Wolfman!
I think even though power could be bumped up for the base model with a tune, but I would like to avoid that while I still have a warranty. Plus I like the wide body and rear wheel steering. Regarding Android Auto retrofit, any idea what that would involve and would cost? I think I read an article about that and it involved a module that plugged into the ECU. But I'm not sure if there was an add on piece of hardware or not. With the nice built in displays already for the '18 or '19 up, it would probably look like an add on if some hardware actually had to be mounted. So while Android Auto is not going to be a deal breaker, I find it odd that such a feature which is offered now on all "regular" vehicles wasn't available until the MY20 year.

Yes, I will test drive a base, S and C and see what I think about each. I may have to do so in Orlando, because the MB dealership here in Melbourne tends to feature more to the bland of vehicles, colors, and trims. For example, right now they have a new 2020 AMG GT base for $130K, but in blah-blah white and black interior. As for CCB's not necessary for me. As I said in my OP this will be a DD. Higher end Burmeister, yes! Glass roof? Ehh, I live in central Florida so I'd probably not seek that out. And Nappa leather, I'll just have to see and feel it in person, as well as what the interior color scheme is.
The Apple CarPlay/Android Auto interface will be around $400 plus install. There are detailed instructions in on the forum if this is a path you want to go with. These are low production vehicles and light on some common features found in low-end cars. People buy these cars for other priorities...

I would take a 2018 GTC over a 2020 GT any day. When MB dropped the GTS in the US, they dumbed down the GT as well to create a sufficient gap between the GT and GTC ($34k+) Too many important features missing and not available as options. The latest models have some feature improvements but none on the performance-side (engine, transmission, suspension). Exhaust has taken a step back to comply with Euro noise and pollution regulations.
If you like the wider body and rear wheel steering, then your only choice is the GTC or the more track oriented GTR. In regards to the Carbon Ceramics brakes, on used cars these brakes often come at no additional cost. No-brainer as these produce zero brake dust even if other benefits don't matter.
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My vote is the C

Having owned an S and now on my second C, the C is the better chassis both handling and power wise. I can’t speak to the DPP as it is an option up here on all C’s and none of mine had it. I daily my car year round without issue. The only problem I have is people keep staring and asking what it is. Whichever route you take I’m sure you’ll be happy but make sure to take it for an extended ride so you can really get a feel for it. Mine has the saddle brown nappa leather with the diamond stitch and it’s my favourite so far of the three I’ve had. I do enjoy the upgrades Burmeister and I have ventilated seats which only really just keep my back from getting sweaty they don’t cool....
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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 09:29 AM
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As Woflman pointed out, in the used market the $9k carbon ceramic brake option generally only brings a very small premium over the steel brakes. Seeing that you've owned a couple V2's (I've had four and 1xV3), that is a great comparison for the amount of brake dust generated from the steel brakes. With the carbons, it's almost none. Best option for this car, if you're not going to track it.

I would also vote for the Nappa leather and carbon fiber interior. It's a real shame when people see how cool the car is on the outside, then see an extremely plain interior when you open the door. I can't see much of the outside of the car when driving, so it's worth having a sweet interior to stare at when I am.

You'll have no issue with storage space for groceries and/or two backpacks on the coupe versions.

The hardware component for the Apple CarPlay/Android Auto is not visible from anywhere inside the cabin.

You'll want to look at 2017+ if you intend to have a car with remaining factory warranty, unless you score a 2016 with CPO (one additional year) or an aftermarket transferable warranty.

As I'm sure you've researched, the GT tends to lack some options like ELSD, and unless you're real tight on budget, the GTS is the better buyer for only a marginal amount of monies more. The GTC would be a great buy if you had an additional $30k-$40k to spend over the current market for the GT/GTS. At that price point, you could even find some GTRs (not the Nissan kind).
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The Apple CarPlay/Android Auto interface will be around $400 plus install. There are detailed instructions in on the forum if this is a path you want to go with. These are low production vehicles and light on some common features found in low-end cars. People buy these cars for other priorities...

I would take a 2018 GTC over a 2020 GT any day. When MB dropped the GTS in the US, they dumbed down the GT as well to create a sufficient gap between the GT and GTC ($34k+) Too many important features missing and not available as options. The latest models have some feature improvements but none on the performance-side (engine, transmission, suspension). Exhaust has taken a step back to comply with Euro noise and pollution regulations.
If you like the wider body and rear wheel steering, then your only choice is the GTC or the more track oriented GTR. In regards to the Carbon Ceramics brakes, on used cars these brakes often come at no additional cost. No-brainer as these produce zero brake dust even if other benefits don't matter.
Thanks again. I am interested in the Android Auto interface but hope it doesn't involve mounting a display inside the vehicle. There is already the driver dash and console display, so I think another would look weird. As to your comment about people buying a car like a MB AMG for other priorities, mine is a DD, as have been most of the vehicles I've previously owned. The two Nissan GT-R's I previously owned weren't driven daily, although the first one ('09) I did daily it for the first year-and-a-half I owned it. Even in the snow.

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Having owned an S and now on my second C, the C is the better chassis both handling and power wise. I can’t speak to the DPP as it is an option up here on all C’s and none of mine had it. I daily my car year round without issue. The only problem I have is people keep staring and asking what it is. Whichever route you take I’m sure you’ll be happy but make sure to take it for an extended ride so you can really get a feel for it. Mine has the saddle brown nappa leather with the diamond stitch and it’s my favourite so far of the three I’ve had. I do enjoy the upgrades Burmeister and I have ventilated seats which only really just keep my back from getting sweaty they don’t cool....
My '19 Grand Sport had ventilated seats, too. Though not actually providing cooling, it did help a lot, after getting into a hot car in this Florida sunshine!
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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 10:21 AM
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As Woflman pointed out, in the used market the $9k carbon ceramic brake option generally only brings a very small premium over the steel brakes. Seeing that you've owned a couple V2's (I've had four and 1xV3), that is a great comparison for the amount of brake dust generated from the steel brakes. With the carbons, it's almost none. Best option for this car, if you're not going to track it.
I would also vote for the Nappa leather and carbon fiber interior. It's a real shame when people see how cool the car is on the outside, then see an extremely plain interior when you open the door. I can't see much of the outside of the car when driving, so it's worth having a sweet interior to stare at when I am.

You'll have no issue with storage space for groceries and/or two backpacks on the coupe versions.

The hardware component for the Apple CarPlay/Android Auto is not visible from anywhere inside the cabin.

You'll want to look at 2017+ if you intend to have a car with remaining factory warranty, unless you score a 2016 with CPO (one additional year) or an aftermarket transferable warranty.

As I'm sure you've researched, the GT tends to lack some options like ELSD, and unless you're real tight on budget, the GTS is the better buyer for only a marginal amount of monies more. The GTC would be a great buy if you had an additional $30k-$40k to spend over the current market for the GT/GTS. At that price point, you could even find some GTRs (not the Nissan kind).
That's great to know about the CCB's. Yes, previously owned two V2's as well as my current ATS-V. Also my Nissan GT-R's generated a lot of brake dust.

With you 100% on the Nappa leather interior, especially if there is a color contrast (red & black, for example). As nice as the interior is overall for the AMG GT, an all black just looks so grim to me.

Awesome to hear about the Android Auto modules being out of sight!

I'm looking at a 2018 C right now. I believe the in service date was in 2017, so II would only have until sometime next year for remaining warranty. In all my previously owned vehicles, I only purchased one extended warranty. It was through my credit union. But I'll check with GEICO, since I've been with them 30+ years.
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I never notice the interior while driving. All black interior for me but when driving I’m looking out not in
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That's great to know about the CCB's. Yes, previously owned two V2's as well as my current ATS-V. Also my Nissan GT-R's generated a lot of brake dust.

With you 100% on the Nappa leather interior, especially if there is a color contrast (red & black, for example). As nice as the interior is overall for the AMG GT, an all black just looks so grim to me.

Awesome to hear about the Android Auto modules being out of sight!

I'm looking at a 2018 C right now. I believe the in service date was in 2017, so II would only have until sometime next year for remaining warranty. In all my previously owned vehicles, I only purchased one extended warranty. It was through my credit union. But I'll check with GEICO, since I've been with them 30+ years.
There’s a recent thread in this sub-forum with some good info on third party warranties.
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That's great to know about the CCB's. Yes, previously owned two V2's as well as my current ATS-V. Also my Nissan GT-R's generated a lot of brake dust.

With you 100% on the Nappa leather interior, especially if there is a color contrast (red & black, for example). As nice as the interior is overall for the AMG GT, an all black just looks so grim to me.

Awesome to hear about the Android Auto modules being out of sight!

I'm looking at a 2018 C right now. I believe the in service date was in 2017, so II would only have until sometime next year for remaining warranty. In all my previously owned vehicles, I only purchased one extended warranty. It was through my credit union. But I'll check with GEICO, since I've been with them 30+ years.
If you happen to buy a car from a MB dealer it maybe already be certified (CPO). Even if not, you can make a dealer CPO a car as part of a deal if you want. CPO gets you a 1 year CPO warranty in conjunction with the factory warranty which you can extend (unlike factory warranty which can only be extended by the first owner). CPO warranty extension pricing if also negotiable... Just FYI
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If you happen to buy a car from a MB dealer it maybe already be certified (CPO). Even if not, you can make a dealer CPO a car as part of a deal if you want. CPO gets you a 1 year CPO warranty in conjunction with the factory warranty which you can extend (unlike factory warranty which can only be extended by the first owner). CPO warranty extension pricing if also negotiable... Just FYI
Yeah but wolfman, do you Really want a factory CPO warranty? For obvious reasons....
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The Apple CarPlay/Android Auto interface will be around $400 plus install. There are detailed instructions in on the forum if this is a path you want to go with. These are low production vehicles and light on some common features found in low-end cars. People buy these cars for other priorities...

I would take a 2018 GTC over a 2020 GT any day. When MB dropped the GTS in the US, they dumbed down the GT as well to create a sufficient gap between the GT and GTC ($34k+) Too many important features missing and not available as options. The latest models have some feature improvements but none on the performance-side (engine, transmission, suspension). Exhaust has taken a step back to comply with Euro noise and pollution regulations.
If you like the wider body and rear wheel steering, then your only choice is the GTC or the more track oriented GTR. In regards to the Carbon Ceramics brakes, on used cars these brakes often come at no additional cost. No-brainer as these produce zero brake dust even if other benefits don't matter.
where can i find the guide for the carplay?
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Yeah but wolfman, do you Really want a factory CPO warranty? For obvious reasons....
Okay, I have to profess my ignorance on this one. What are the obvious reasons for not wanting a CPO warranty? Do you mean over an extended factory warranty?
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Okay, I have to profess my ignorance on this one. What are the obvious reasons for not wanting a CPO warranty? Do you mean over an extended factory warranty?
Because the factory warranty, CPO or otherwise, will generally be denied if there are any modifications to the car. Third party warranties generally only require a visual inspection for mods prior to granting coverage; I.e. they won’t look into the ECU.
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The answer somewhat depends on the price point and preference on the facelift design or the wide body.
The GTC's only started from model year 18 (facelift) while the GTS was available from early 2015 as a MY16. Certain options are default on one vs options on the other. Power-wise there are differences but nothing that a tune couldn't fix. The GTC has the wide body and rear wheel steering (my preference) but some don't care for it. Forget about Android Auto (MY20 and up only) unless you are OK with a 3rd party retrofit.
Overall, I would drive all three of them unless budget rules one out. Figure out what design, features and options are important to you and then go for the best deal. You really can't go wrong with either.

I like Carbon Ceramics, High end Burmester maybe nice. Also the exclusive nappa interior is a must IMO. On a coupe I would pick the glass roof (we live in the land of 5 months+ snow). On a GTC the DPP is default; to me a must as is the blind spot detection which should be standard for a car with limited visibility.
I'm looking at an '18 GT-C convertible and don't see any option for ceramic composite brakes, just the high performance composite. No high end Burmester, just the standard Burmester Surround Sound System. It does have Nappa Leather. Other options include AMG carbon fiber trim, performance steering wheel in Nappa Leather, DISTRONIC PLUS, Dinamica headliner. For some reason there is a delete of the rear deck badges.
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Because the factory warranty, CPO or otherwise, will generally be denied if there are any modifications to the car. Third party warranties generally only require a visual inspection for mods prior to granting coverage; I.e. they won’t look into the ECU.
Thank you. As this is an AMG GT-C, I don't have any plans to mod, or at least while the warranty is valid.
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I'm looking at an '18 GT-C convertible and don't see any option for ceramic composite brakes, just the high performance composite. No high end Burmester, just the standard Burmester Surround Sound System. It does have Nappa Leather. Other options include AMG carbon fiber trim, performance steering wheel in Nappa Leather, DISTRONIC PLUS, Dinamica headliner. For some reason there is a delete of the rear deck badges.
Your gonna love it. Absolutely underrated car. The roadster really brings out the sound + enhances the experience imo.
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I'm looking at an '18 GT-C convertible and don't see any option for ceramic composite brakes, just the high performance composite. No high end Burmester, just the standard Burmester Surround Sound System. It does have Nappa Leather. Other options include AMG carbon fiber trim, performance steering wheel in Nappa Leather, DISTRONIC PLUS, Dinamica headliner. For some reason there is a delete of the rear deck badges.
I love the roadster (we have one) but there is very little space for luggage. Just FYI. The coupe has more space... Just bring your empty bags along for a luggage check if needed.

Ceramic Brakes are easy to recognize by the gold calipers (option B09 if you have the build sheet). High-end Burmester is better but the standard is in the middle of the 3 audio systems for the car. Definitely enough for a roadster IMO. The GTC has Nappa leather with Dynamica standard as is the std. Burmester and DPP (in the US). Badge delete is a common option in Germany and a few pick that here too. If you like the badge, MB has those for $15 or so... Distronic was an option as the Carbon Fibre.

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I love the roadster (we have one) but there is very little space for luggage. Just FYI. The coupe has more space... Just bring your empty bags along for a luggage check if needed.

Ceramic Brakes are easy to recognize by the gold calipers (option B09 if you have the build sheet). High-end Burmester is better but the standard is in the middle of the 3 audio systems for the car. Definitely enough for a roadster IMO. The GTC has Nappa leather with Dynamica standard as is the std. Burmester and DPP (in the US). Badge delete is a common option in Germany and a few pick that here too. If you like the badge, MB has those for $15 or so... Distronic was an option as the Carbon Fibre.
Thanks for the info. I am having doubts about the GT-C soft top. I do the grocery shopping for my family, and normally fill up once a week. That trunk looks too small. Heck, if was too small on the '17 MB AMG C63 I previously leased, but I had back seats to stow things. Only reason I am considering this '18 GT-C is that it only has less than 3K miles and the dealer is asking $99K. However, Carmax shows a collision to the front. Dealer told me that it was repaired to MB specs.
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