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Old 02-24-2022, 05:42 PM
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Another Wheel Spacer ???

On my 2016 GTS I installed the Renntech coils and lowered it 3/4" which then dropped another 1/4" so it now sits good for me. I added 305/30/20 S4's to the rear and 15mm spacers and now at speed 70+ mph over bumps or sharp left turns the rear passenger tire rubs the fender liner to the point it actually bent the liner. Clearly the 15mm spacer by H&R is to big. If I put a 12mm spacer on will that resolve that issue or will I have to go back and get a set of 295/30/20 tires should I want to use spacers.
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Hi,

A 12mm spacer will not work. The reason is the standard height of the hub centering of 13mm.

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Tough wheel/tire spot. Maybe the alignment will help, but may have to go back to 295.

13mm rear and 12mm front seems the safe “ wheel “ play.

Edit. Adding negative camber could alleviate rubbing in top fender wall?

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Originally Posted by badbenzz
On my 2016 GTS I installed the Renntech coils and lowered it 3/4" which then dropped another 1/4" so it now sits good for me. I added 305/30/20 S4's to the rear and 15mm spacers and now at speed 70+ mph over bumps or sharp left turns the rear passenger tire rubs the fender liner to the point it actually bent the liner. Clearly the 15mm spacer by H&R is to big. If I put a 12mm spacer on will that resolve that issue or will I have to go back and get a set of 295/30/20 tires should I want to use spacers.
Thanks in advance for any advice
It's the lowing that is getting you.

I have 305s and 15mm spacers on stock suspension and no rubs/hits under any conditions. However, if I lowered onto my setup by 1 inch there is no question I would hit.

As I see it, you either have to give up the 1 inch (or much of it), or the 15mm spacer. As said above, much less than 15mm spacer on this setup and you will lose the hubcentric fit and you really don't want to do that.
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Ok if I do 13mm spacers on the rears and raise it back to stock height or a .5" drop will this work?? Also can I do 12mm spacers in the front?
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Ok if I do 13mm spacers on the rears and raise it back to stock height or a .5" drop will this work?? Also can I do 12mm spacers in the front?
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Both fronts/backs use this offset so same issue on the front. I am concerned even with a 13mm spacer there will be no "meat" around the indent and the collar. just a mm (.03937") about 1/32".

If it were me - I'd lose the 1/2" on the drop and stay with the 15mm spacer. Try it. It should be an improvement by a lot (by half...LOL). If you want the lowered look, ditch the spacer completely.

Based on how you're using the car - if it is just looking good and cruising, just ease up on the speed bumps and the potholes. If you're doing anything like tracking, then you're way off with a setup like this anyway. I'm guessing - looking good.
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I don't track this car but do drive aggressively is some spots. The main reason for the renntech coils was to get away from the jarring ride which the renntech coils have done. Car is much more compliant especially after the alignment.
As far as the 13mm spacer, H&R sells them for our cars. I would think that would be OK if they are selling them as opposed to some fly by night company

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Hi,

Can not recommend the H&R spacers. Ordered it (15mm) and returned it.
These are really paper thin at the centering.
If necessary, you can deform them by hand.

Then ordered SCC. These go over the wheel carrier and are set off there with a collar inwards.
Much more stable.

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Originally Posted by Stenzel-Germany
Hi,

Can not recommend the H&R spacers. Ordered it (15mm) and returned it.
These are really paper thin at the centering.
If necessary, you can deform them by hand.

Then ordered SCC. These go over the wheel carrier and are set off there with a collar inwards.
Much more stable.

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With the “collar” on these spacers could you use 12mm or 13 mm ?
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Originally Posted by Stenzel-Germany
Hi,

Can not recommend the H&R spacers. Ordered it (15mm) and returned it.
These are really paper thin at the centering.
If necessary, you can deform them by hand.

Then ordered SCC. These go over the wheel carrier and are set off there with a collar inwards.
Much more stable.

Best regards
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could u attach a link to scc spacers. I want to add spacers to my GTR and was almost going to buy h&r until i saw your post
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Do you have any pictures of your setup / car that you could share?
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Do you have any pictures of your setup / car that you could share?
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I have 305s on stock suspension/stock height, with a 15 mm spacer. I do not like the lowered or slammed look on my cars (which helps make things fit that otherwise might not). The wheel spacer is custom made so not selected from any vendor.





If I was lowered an inch, I would definitely hit the wheel liner when the suspension exercised.
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Or the OP could go down to something like 8mm. Stance will still look good and the spacer would just be a disc still using the cars hub lip.
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Originally Posted by Acta_Non_Verba
I have 305s on stock suspension/stock height, with a 15 mm spacer. I do not like the lowered or slammed look on my cars (which helps make things fit that otherwise might not). The wheel spacer is custom made so not selected from any vendor.





If I was lowered an inch, I would definitely hit the wheel liner when the suspension exercised.
Love the look. Got anything that shows the overall look of the car with the spacers added? IE - pictures from further away / of the entire car?
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Love the look. Got anything that shows the overall look of the car with the spacers added? IE - pictures from further away / of the entire car?
I am all tied up in a garage right now with another car in the next stall so I cannot. Maybe the next time I have things moved around.
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With the “collar” on these spacers could you use 12mm or 13 mm ?
Hi,

Sorry, can not verify this. Have 15mm front and rear. (GTR)

In the picture (I don't have anything better) you can see the thickness of the reinforcement band. This collar sits in front of the hub centering.

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could u attach a link to scc spacers. I want to add spacers to my GTR and was almost going to buy h&r until i saw your post
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SCC 15mm Black PN: 12169 W

SCC 15mm Silver PN: 12169 E

E-Bay: Set for Sale Ask me if you want this.

Edit: This set is sold. 3. one is in progress.



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Are you hitting the inner rear plastic fender? If so why not go down on the sidewall size.....I have a couple of friends up here who have gone down to 315/25/20 and no issues. One of their cars is lowered however don't know all the specifics...

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Are you hitting the inner rear plastic fender? If so why not go down on the sidewall size.....I have a couple of friends up here who have gone down to 315/25/20 and no issues. One of their cars is lowered however don't know all the specifics...

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Trying to avoid the rubber band effect of a 315/25/20. The car is harsh enough that is why I put the Renntech coils on. I got some 12mm spacers from Supreme Power which are forged and look well made. Put them on the car today and hit my local high speed road with bumps and the rear right fender liner is no longer rubbing. Problem solved, except for the concern people have with using 12mm spacers.
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Originally Posted by badbenzz
Problem solved, except for the concern people have with using 12mm spacers.
In the end, it's your car.

All the Best with it!

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Originally Posted by badbenzz
Trying to avoid the rubber band effect of a 315/25/20. The car is harsh enough that is why I put the Renntech coils on. I got some 12mm spacers from Supreme Power which are forged and look well made. Put them on the car today and hit my local high speed road with bumps and the rear right fender liner is no longer rubbing. Problem solved, except for the concern people have with using 12mm spacers.
Don’t understand the attitude either. People are trying to help and if it works, pics of fitting the spacers would have been great.
After all, if the hub with lip is 13mm, a 12mm spacer shouldn’t work.

Is the supreme power just a disc or does it have a lip?
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It has a lip
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
Don’t understand the attitude either. People are trying to help and if it works, pics of fitting the spacers would have been great.
After all, if the hub with lip is 13mm, a 12mm spacer shouldn’t work.

Is the supreme power just a disc or does it have a lip?
Frankly, I don't understand the "attitude" response, the concern people have is greatly appreciated and a concern of mine as well. Hence my reaching out on this forum. I tried a 12mm hubcentric spacer and there is no more rubbing. After driving it a bit I will re-check the collar for any damage, unnecessary wear, etc., as I certainly appreciate all of the opinions provided on this forum. If my recent response was taken out of context then I apologize. I also have a 13mm spacer which I will try as well. Just trying to resolve the rubbing issues, while maintaining a safe car. Worst case scenario, I order new wheels with the correct offset.
Thank you everyone for your advice.
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Originally Posted by Stenzel-Germany
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SCC 15mm Black PN: 12169 W

SCC 15mm Silver PN: 12169 E

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Edit: This set is sold. 3. one is in progress.



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