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How will the SL55/SL63 release impact the C190 market?
They look great, IMO.
Release set for next month - SL63 clocking in at 577HP 3.1 second 0-60 / SL55 469HP 3.4 second 0-60. That's quick.
I've been eyeing a GT-C for some time now.. but it really feels like we're at the tip of the market. Prices have continued going up, but it seems like things have slowed down. I'm seeing price drops on a weekly basis from autotrader/cargurus, etc. Certainly the release of the new SL series will also have some sort of effect on GT prices. I'm curious to hear thoughts.
I can't imagine it doing anything negative for C190 values. As a GT replacement, it seems like a departure from a driver focused car, and I think the general consensus is that it looks worse than the C190. I'm betting is has no effect on values, or maybe helps to ward off the normal MB depreciation, slightly.
I've been reading that the SL-43 will be a 2 Liter 4Cyl eTurbo. If that's the case, I would venture the SL will not attain the same status as the GT did. Time will tell I guess.
I can't imagine it doing anything negative for C190 values. As a GT replacement, it seems like a departure from a driver focused car, and I think the general consensus is that it looks worse than the C190. I'm betting is has no effect on values, or maybe helps to ward off the normal MB depreciation, slightly.
Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
You can't be serious! Even that yellow is not this yellow.
Spoken like two true C190 owners!
Personally, I think they look great but find the GTC and GTR more visually appealing. Looks, color, etc. are all subjective. Of course the GT crew is going to like the look of the GT better [or at least say they do].
I'm not as concerned with who likes what best, rather the impact a new [competitive] line will have on the GT. There is a significant difference between a C63/E63/GT in terms of performance and feel. You're right - I don't foresee the SL being as much of a "driver focused car" as the GT, but that's almost the point. It will certainly pull folks away from the GT, now that there is another strong contender in the fold.
FWIW @UCIMBZ , totally agree with you on the yellow!
Originally Posted by AstroGTS17
I've been reading that the SL-43 will be a 2 Liter 4Cyl eTurbo. If that's the case, I would venture the SL will not attain the same status as the GT did. Time will tell I guess.
You can't compare an SL43 to a C190 GT. Totally off-base there, my friend. Apples and oranges.
The SL will capture a larger audience than the AMG GT roadster ever could as the ride quality is not conducive to the broader Mercedes customer base. I love how our AMG drives but have heard from local dealers that they were a hard sell. Lots of people want to fit their golf bag(s) into the car, have a comfortable ride and the SL can do both...
The new SL looks good, has great performance and interior eye candy. The drive dynamics will be inferior to the GT models but that matters only to a smaller AMG audience. I believe this car will also capture a part of the 911 cab market.
I've been reading that the SL-43 will be a 2 Liter 4Cyl eTurbo. If that's the case, I would venture the SL will not attain the same status as the GT did. Time will tell I guess.
Well, Mercedes also offers the AMG GT43 and 53, so this isn't really an argument. The 6 cylinder engines will make way for the 4 cylinder for emissions and the P3 hybrid will make up for power. Not great but with ICE engines slowly phasing out, Mercedes will focus on reducing their emissions penalties.
You can't compare an SL43 to a C190 GT. Totally off-base there, my friend. Apples and oranges.
Heh, I think you misunderstood me. I am not comparing a GT to a SL-43. What I am saying is that the mere fact an SL-43 with a 4 Cyl engine is offered in the range may affect the way people perceive the overall SL Range. There was no weak 4 Cyl variant of the GT
Originally Posted by Wolfman
Well, Mercedes also offers the AMG GT43 and 53, so this isn't really an argument. The 6 cylinder engines will make way for the 4 cylinder for emissions and the P3 hybrid will make up for power. Not great but with ICE engines slowly phasing out, Mercedes will focus on reducing their emissions penalties.
That's the GT 4 Door. Have yet to see one of those on the tracks I've been to recently (Spa, Nordschleife, Dijon, Monza). Seen plenty of GTs, GTRs and even black series.... along with the myriads of GT3 RSs 😂
My point exactly, those are seen as premium drive by / drive on the weekend on a twisty road, not as the drivers take it to your fave track then drive back home.
The new SL platform will not have any negative effect on the GT's value. If anything, they will support their value as anyone who prefers the GT will only have a "used" option. Personally, you couldn't pay me to drive the SL. Incredibly homogenized looks.
Heh, I think you misunderstood me. I am not comparing a GT to a SL-43. What I am saying is that the mere fact an SL-43 with a 4 Cyl engine is offered in the range may affect the way people perceive the overall SL Range. There was no weak 4 Cyl variant of the GT
That's the GT 4 Door. Have yet to see one of those on the tracks I've been to recently (Spa, Nordschleife, Dijon, Monza). Seen plenty of GTs, GTRs and even black series.... along with the myriads of GT3 RSs 😂
My point exactly, those are seen as premium drive by / drive on the weekend on a twisty road, not as the drivers take it to your fave track then drive back home.
Time will tell I guess
You initially mentioned GT status and this is what I responded to. There was nothing about tracking the cars.
But the new AMG GT 2 door will also come with 4 cylinder engines as will the GT 4door (later update). I don't like it but that's the path
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