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Old Jun 13, 2022 | 01:38 PM
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AMG GTR - Did anyone upgrade the turbos

What were the Pro's vs Con's ?

Did you use RENNtech or someone else?
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Old Jun 15, 2022 | 08:50 PM
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Check out Premier Tuning Group. They have done many AMG GT-R's with a lot of success. They have a lot of parts for straight line speed which they hold various world records with, and they also make a lot of parts for guys who like the road course.
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Originally Posted by jb123mb
What were the Pro's vs Con's ?

Did you use RENNtech or someone else?
My car has TTE760 installed (the GTR on the website is my exact car, so it is interesting to see that strange type of dyno setup).

I never drove an unmodified GTR so I cannot compare in terms of responsiveness.
(you'll always lose a little bit on the low end to gain everywhere else)

I am not sure if this is a pro or con, but the OPF was gutted on my car as it caused overheating issues on high speed autobahnn runs.
I guess it is a pro since the car sounds amazing without OPF.

The official mercedes dealer/workshop I get the car serviced is run by a motorsport guy/team, so i do not need to worry as they know the ECU firmware has been flashed, and other modifications.
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Old Jun 16, 2022 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by beekay_
My car has TTE760 installed (the GTR on the website is my exact car, so it is interesting to see that strange type of dyno setup).

I never drove an unmodified GTR so I cannot compare in terms of responsiveness.
(you'll always lose a little bit on the low end to gain everywhere else)

I am not sure if this is a pro or con, but the OPF was gutted on my car as it caused overheating issues on high speed autobahnn runs.
I guess it is a pro since the car sounds amazing without OPF.

The official mercedes dealer/workshop I get the car serviced is run by a motorsport guy/team, so i do not need to worry as they know the ECU firmware has been flashed, and other modifications.
Stupid question - what does opf stand for?
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Old Jun 16, 2022 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jn66
Stupid question - what does opf stand for?
otto partikel filter for the exhaust, a requirement for ~2019+ made vehicles in the EU.
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Old Jun 16, 2022 | 03:18 PM
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Thank you. No repercussions for removing it? Increased volume of exhaust?
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Thank you. No repercussions for removing it? Increased volume of exhaust?
Depends on your jurisidiction. For my area, replacing the exhaust with aftermarket is "worse" than gutting it, as they cannot inspect the internals of the exhaust.

If replacing is OK, and you want peace of mind, consider higher flow primary/secondary cats, too.

Yes. Much more louder.
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Originally Posted by beekay_
Depends on your jurisidiction. For my area, replacing the exhaust with aftermarket is "worse" than gutting it, as they cannot inspect the internals of the exhaust.

If replacing is OK, and you want peace of mind, consider higher flow primary/secondary cats, too.

Yes. Much more louder.
Thanks man. Where I live we can do either or with no real issue at all. Just can't surpass 95sb at my local track - but my Mustang GT500 doesn't hit it so I suspect the 2020 GTR Pro will be OK.

I haven't done much research on exhaust at all.
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The place that did the modifications & tune, mentioned the stock manifolds is "limited" in terms of exhaust flow / too-much-backpressure, so if I want more power (it already has enough power for me to handle), the manifolds needs to be upgraded if I want ~850 hp @ "calculated at crank". But of course, where you get that power is at the end of the rev range, where maximum flow also happens.
But I also understand the gearbox is at its design limit aswell...

Higher-flow aftermarket cats are available for the following reasons (you should justify it in the following order):
  • primary benefit: not causing the engine to overheat due to less backpressure.
  • secondary benefit: allows more power to be made.
  • tertiary benefit: (slightly) louder exhaust (depending on the combination)
Maybe it's just the OPF (secondaries) that causes more backpressure issues than 2 pair of cats, but regardless, you can still justify it in the same way as mentioned above

So in summary, with high-flow turbos, you may experience engine overheating if you retain the stock primary/secondary cats / particulate filters, based on what my car's previous owner experience but he mainly noticed it during highspeed autobahn drives.

Objectively or subjectively, if you feel none of the above is a relevant benefit, then upgrading the cat(s) should not be done until you experience the issue(s) (engine overheating, and/or exhaust is not loud enough). Just as my car's previous owner did - got high-flowed turbos, and only then experienced overheating issues, and then solved it in one way.

Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by beekay_
The place that did the modifications & tune, mentioned the stock manifolds is "limited" in terms of exhaust flow / too-much-backpressure, so if I want more power (it already has enough power for me to handle), the manifolds needs to be upgraded if I want ~850 hp @ "calculated at crank". But of course, where you get that power is at the end of the rev range, where maximum flow also happens.
But I also understand the gearbox is at its design limit aswell...

Higher-flow aftermarket cats are available for the following reasons (you should justify it in the following order):
  • primary benefit: not causing the engine to overheat due to less backpressure.
  • secondary benefit: allows more power to be made.
  • tertiary benefit: (slightly) louder exhaust (depending on the combination)
Maybe it's just the OPF (secondaries) that causes more backpressure issues than 2 pair of cats, but regardless, you can still justify it in the same way as mentioned above

So in summary, with high-flow turbos, you may experience engine overheating if you retain the stock primary/secondary cats / particulate filters, based on what my car's previous owner experience but he mainly noticed it during highspeed autobahn drives.

Objectively or subjectively, if you feel none of the above is a relevant benefit, then upgrading the cat(s) should not be done until you experience the issue(s) (engine overheating, and/or exhaust is not loud enough). Just as my car's previous owner did - got high-flowed turbos, and only then experienced overheating issues, and then solved it in one way.

Hope that helps.
Yes Sir it does! Thank you.
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