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Old 09-28-2022, 01:23 PM
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Without a dedicated GT model MB is just another boring car maker.
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Without a dedicated GT model MB is just another boring car maker.
Yup, agree.
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
Without a dedicated GT model MB is just another boring car maker.
totally agree

the new SL roadster is butt ugly and why did they make back seats for it ?
Prolly to hold the drivers purse lmfao

seems like a transgendered AMG ….
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Did I miss something? Isn't there a replacement GT coming?
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Without a dedicated GT model MB is just another boring car maker.
I'm manufacturer agnostic and Mercedes has certainly justified my position. I don't yet know what my next car will be, but I'm successful enough that it wouldn't be the new SL even if MB gave it to me for free. It's visually a huge nothing to my eyes.
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Did I miss something? Isn't there a replacement GT coming?

There is, of course... Next GT is on track for launch next year but likely as a 2024 model in the US

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Did I miss something? Isn't there a replacement GT coming?
Yes but not "dedicated". Shares components with the SL.
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Yes but not "dedicated". Shares components with the SL.
Just like before. Unless you are hung up on naming conventions
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Just like before. Unless you are hung up on naming conventions
I agree with the OP. This is a hard top SL that takes design cues from the GT; hardly a new GT - funny how they call it the GT II....it brings the Mustang II to mind when Ford tried to do the same thing Mercedes is doing here!

The GT, SLS, SLR were all born differently - SL might have been inspiration but none of these were the SL car with some bolted on bits.
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Just like before. Unless you are hung up on naming conventions
Really?!! I thought body panels, design, dashboard, instruments, chassis, steering, suspension and transmission set up were specific to GT. Silly me
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I agree with the OP. This is a hard top SL that takes design cues from the GT; hardly a new GT - funny how they call it the GT II....it brings the Mustang II to mind when Ford tried to do the same thing Mercedes is doing here!

The GT, SLS, SLR were all born differently - SL might have been inspiration but none of these were the SL car with some bolted on bits.
You lost me. So you are saying the next gen AMG GT (and likely GTR, etc. models) will not be an AMG GT?
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Really?!! I thought body panels, design, dashboard, instruments, chassis, steering, suspension and transmission set up were specific to GT. Silly me
Before: The AMG GT roadster and the AMG GT models were the same. New: Same with the next gen, at least to some extend. MB just chose to call the roadster the SL...
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Before: The AMG GT roadster and the AMG GT models were the same. New: Same with the next gen, at least to some extend. MB just chose to call the roadster the SL...
And was there a non AMG GT roadster back then? You see my point? Accept it Wolf. The GT is water downed and no longer dedicated.

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I agree with the OP. This is a hard top SL that takes design cues from the GT; hardly a new GT - funny how they call it the GT II....it brings the Mustang II to mind when Ford tried to do the same thing Mercedes is doing here!

The GT, SLS, SLR were all born differently - SL might have been inspiration but none of these were the SL car with some bolted on bits.
Agreed. The new GT will be a dressed up SL. Much heavier, no longer front mod engined, worse transmission, hybrid, etc. It's no longer an AMG GT, and will now just be a hard top SL.
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Is the new "GT" going to have the faux backseat? If so, it's a mess.The front end of the new SL is not long enough for design purposes (or mid engine purposes) to carry the rest of the design. The SL looks disproportionate. If the "GT" is the same, why bother?
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Agreed. The new GT will be a dressed up SL. Much heavier, no longer front mod engined, worse transmission, hybrid, etc. It's no longer an AMG GT, and will now just be a hard top SL.
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Hard pass.
I am thinking we should give it a chance and see... I mean, still hopefully in reality it isn't that bad, we should know once it gets revealed and then when the reviews come out.
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And was there a non AMG GT roadster back then? You see my point? Accept it Wolf. The GT is water downed and no longer dedicated.
Confused. Not understanding the non-AMG part. There is no non-AMG SL or SL anymore. Only an AMG SL and it is a 100% AMG car. But for now they are dedicated as the MSA platform is used only for those two cars.
That this thing and the new coupe is a porker is unfortunate for everyone but that wasn't the point of the thread, was it?
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Confused. Not understanding the non-AMG part. There is no non-AMG SL or SL anymore. Only an AMG SL and it is a 100% AMG car. But for now they are dedicated as the MSA platform is used only for those two cars.
That this thing and the new coupe is a porker is unfortunate for everyone but that wasn't the point of the thread, was it?
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I am thinking we should give it a chance and see... I mean, still hopefully in reality it isn't that bad, we should know once it gets revealed and then when the reviews come out.
It would be great if it turned out to be good, but considering the GT lineup was already heavy, adding substantial weight, hybrid system, no longer mid engined, and the lack of DCT, sounds like a recipe for a much worse car. It also signifies that it's just an SL with the GT badge.
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The new SL is a 100% AMG derived design.

I have driven a GT, GT C, GT C Roadster, GT R, GT R Roadster, GT Black Series, and the new AMG SL...all of them hard and some of them on a race track.
In no world can I see the upcoming GT replacement not being a better car as far as driving dynamics go. As to looks, that's subject and we will all have our own opinions.
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You lost me. So you are saying the next gen AMG GT (and likely GTR, etc. models) will not be an AMG GT?
no they will be a GT II, just like this was still a Mustang....er, Mustang II



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The new SL is a 100% AMG derived design.

I have driven a GT, GT C, GT C Roadster, GT R, GT R Roadster, GT Black Series, and the new AMG SL...all of them hard and some of them on a race track.
In no world can I see the upcoming GT replacement not being a better car as far as driving dynamics go. As to looks, that's subject and we will all have our own opinions.
Hmm. I can't see a 4300 lbs AWD car getting anywhere close to the current AMG GT models on a track...
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Hmm. I can't see a 4300 lbs AWD car getting anywhere close to the current AMG GT models on a track...
I have tracked a GT R as well as both the SL 55 and SL 63. I am very confident in my statement.


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