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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 12:17 PM
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AMG GTS Engine misfire number 4 cyl 2016

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Any of you have an engine misfire. I noticed when idling there would be a very slight burble sound change but thought it may just be some not so great gas. Happens often up here in the Winter. Never was a check engine light. The other day it was beautiful so thought i would take it out for a spin. That's when check engine light came on. I did a quick scan and got two codes P030022 and PO30485.it says "combustion misfiring of cylinder 4 has been detected there is a signal above the permissible limit value". Do you all think this may be caused by a spark plug or coil? Any suggestions would be great. I also read that this may be caused by driveshaft which doesn't make much sense but anything is possible. I haven't yet replaced the carbon driveshaft recall....

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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 01:22 PM
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Hey Guys,

Any of you have an engine misfire. I noticed when idling there would be a very slight burble sound change but thought it may just be some not so great gas. Happens often up here in the Winter. Never was a check engine light. The other day it was beautiful so thought i would take it out for a spin. That's when check engine light came on. I did a quick scan and got two codes P030022 and PO30485.it says "combustion misfiring of cylinder 4 has been detected there is a signal above the permissible limit value". Do you all think this may be caused by a spark plug or coil? Any suggestions would be great. I also read that this may be caused by driveshaft which doesn't make much sense but anything is possible. I haven't yet replaced the carbon driveshaft recall....

Thanks everyone!
Misfire and driveshaft are unrelated.

At 7 years old it’s time to replace plugs and coils preemptively. If you want to be extra diligent, do a compression test when the plugs are removed.

Also preemptively, cam sensors and magnets should be replaced and the mating harness connectors checked for oil.
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 02:45 PM
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Thank you for replying, it is much appreciated. You are probably right. I will be bring it in to the dealer ASAP.
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 04:15 PM
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Thank you for replying, it is much appreciated. You are probably right. I will be bring it in to the dealer ASAP.

More than likely it’s a Coil Pack. You can find out by switching coil paks between cylinders and see if the miss follows.

Good Luck.

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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 03:35 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 04:43 PM
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I have 70,000km or around 45,000 miles........
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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 09:45 AM
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I have 70,000km or around 45,000 miles........
Before you do anything else, get a can of "Techron" fuel system cleaner, add it to your tank, fill it up with fresh fuel, and go for a spirited drive nine out of ten times. This will clear it up.
I have replaced two motors on two cars that had been sitting around for a while, waiting on the donor motor to come along that had the same symptoms, and they both were OK after the "Techron" Italian tune-up.

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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chassis
Misfire and driveshaft are unrelated.

At 7 years old it’s time to replace plugs and coils preemptively. If you want to be extra diligent, do a compression test when the plugs are removed.

Also preemptively, cam sensors and magnets should be replaced and the mating harness connectors checked for oil.
I occasionally got misfire codes, and it was resolved with the driveshaft recall. My tech told me it has to do with the sensors freaking out when the driveshaft starts slipping and things don't match up.
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I occasionally got misfire codes, and it was resolved with the driveshaft recall. My tech told me it has to do with the sensors freaking out when the driveshaft starts slipping and things don't match up.
Curious ... how does a driveshaft "slip?"
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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 05:14 PM
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Curious ... how does a driveshaft "slip?"
The carbon fiber drive shaft starts slipping inside of the collars, which is why there is a recall for them for early year model GTSs.

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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 02:45 PM
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The carbon fiber drive shaft starts slipping inside of the collars, which is why there is a recall for them for early year model GTSs.
Thanks ... makes sense when you see the end/collar pieces. You'd think there'd be an inside thread that was self-tightening (for forward gears) and was tightened to pre-stress during the assembly/glue process (threads would also provide more surface area for glue ... but likely require thicker shaft-ends and collars). Of course, that'd assume breakage would always occur in forward and not reverse gear(s). #;-))
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Originally Posted by user33
Thanks ... makes sense when you see the end/collar pieces. You'd think there'd be an inside thread that was self-tightening (for forward gears) and was tightened to pre-stress during the assembly/glue process (threads would also provide more surface area for glue ... but likely require thicker shaft-ends and collars). Of course, that'd assume breakage would always occur in forward and not reverse gear(s). #;-))
Agreed, here is a side by side of the old one (top), and "improved" one (bottom). I chased misfire codes for a few months, before getting the recall done. I was also shocked that there was any correlation.



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Hello everyone,

Well brought it to a Mercedes dealer. They replaced all spark plugs, one coil pack on number 4 cylinder. They also updated software said there was an instrument cluster campaign number 2020020003 as per MB software update. Also performed campaign number 2022080010 update. Something about catalyst heating after warm engine shutdown. I am located in Canada so don't know if these recalls are also in the USA.. Said there was no driveshaft recall on my car...…I found that hard to believe but i guess i have to. Total for repairs $1800.00CAD.
Car runs great, so I'm happy.

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