I noticed a small spot of oil on an under-panel and, upon investigation, found a leak. I've cleaned it up as well as I could without removing the under-panel and am currently waiting to see drip level on a piece of inserted cardboard. No additional "hanging drop" has formed while the vehicle has been on the hoist overnight.
QUESTION: I have an upcoming track day that's a 4.5 hour drive away, so it'd be a serious towing bill to return the car to my dealer (don't yet know whether dealer can investigate before track day). Any ideas on this issue and whether it's likely to be a disaster if I don't cancel the track day?
Alerting leak evidence ... not there when doing May 11th pre-trackday check-over ... this is now 2 track-days later:
Here's what I found after removing the bottom of the diffuser:
Nice catch!
Without knowing what's what until you/technician actually get in there to investigate source of leak, I myself would err on the side of caution and postpone track day until this is sorted.
A replacement, re-manufactured trans is a nightmare with prolonged downtime. From what I understand, the Dealerships don't even service the Trans themselves, and order full unit replacement.
If possible, get yourself to an Independent who works on other makes such as Ferrari, etc that also share same Trans.
... A replacement, re-manufactured trans is a nightmare with prolonged downtime. From what I understand, the Dealerships don't even service the Trans themselves, and order full unit replacement. ...
Yes, I've read the various postings regarding this type of thing. As always, this forum is "great." I'm also lucky to have found a dealership that has an extremely good service department who has supported me well over the past 7 years.
AFAIK, this car is still under warranty (I've asked for confirmation on this). Still, losing a track season would be extremely disappointing ... but then, when these are the things we have to worry about, we are truly privileged.
Yes, I've read the various postings regarding this type of thing. As always, this forum is "great." I'm also lucky to have found a dealership that has an extremely good service department who has supported me well over the past 7 years.
AFAIK, this car is still under warranty (I've asked for confirmation on this). Still, losing a track season would be extremely disappointing ... but then, when these are the things we have to worry about, we are truly privileged.
Sorry to see this, I think it's better to be on the safe side to have it check out before the track day if you could, otherwise, I wouldn't risk it for the track, the leak could get much more severe once it reaches a threshold point and could result in further damage.
My understanding is that that's for early GTS models (all GTR Pros are model-year 2020, though mine was manufactured in 2019).
I see, you are right I should had confirmed before linking it here. I am curious the changes were made by AMG however to resolve the issue which means your vehicle is not affected by that flaw?
My service manager agreed to have a quick look at the situation. Given the timing, I had also decided to remove the carbon fiber under-panel so I could have a proper look and found the following (this was after I'd wiped the trans/panel down with the under-panel still on):
Since the dirt on the windward side of the drain plug implied that the drain plug was seeping, I re-torqued it and it turned a couple of degrees. On the 1.5 hr trip to/from the dealer there was no more leak and it's remained that way with the under-panel reinstalled (whew!). The shop foreman agreed that everything looked good, including the seals, etc. so this was about the best "I have a trans leak" outcome one could hope for.
My service manager agreed to have a quick look at the situation. Given the timing, I had also decided to remove the carbon fiber under-panel so I could have a proper look and found the following (this was after I'd wiped the trans/panel down with the under-panel still on): https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0deb2f58f6.jpg
Since the dirt on the windward side of the drain plug implied that the drain plug was seeping, I re-torqued it and it turned a couple of degrees. On the 1.5 hr trip to/from the dealer there was no more leak and it's remained that way with the under-panel reinstalled (whew!). The shop foreman agreed that everything looked good, including the seals, etc. so this was about the best "I have a trans leak" outcome one could hope for.
Guys my gtr 2019 has 33km dealer maintained and transmission fluid changed 3 months ago was going to sell the car last week we put the car for inspection and suddenly I found this…… what do you think
Guys my gtr 2019 has 33km dealer maintained and transmission fluid changed 3 months ago was going to sell the car last week we put the car for inspection and suddenly I found this…… what do you think
Ah that possibly looks like the infamous weep hole leak but prob best to get that investigated by a dealer or an indy who has experience with ferrari/getrag dct service.
is it just slight seepage or is it an active leak once you start the car? If the latter then that unfortunately sounds like bearing is failing.
really sad to see this on a 2019 gtr and kind of confirms that nothing was ever fixed in subsequent model years and that these transmissions are just ticking time bombs due to a design flaw from getrag.
yes, oil coming from that hole means that the oil seal that separates the 2 oils has broken
Oh gosh, no that is not the "weep hole" leak where the transmission needs to be dropped to replace the radial shaft seals just inside the gear box. This is a leak from the differential cover. It's either a failed differential cover o-ring or the tiny o-ring that seals the channel between the casing and the differential cover. Refer to bulletin 2612 pages 25 figure 7 for the small o-ring, and page 26 figures 8, 9 and 10 for the differential cover gasket. Bulletin 2612 REPLACES 2076 12_2019 Getrag Remove Differential.pdf
Here, I made a video. I just happen to have my transmission apart.
