benzclub

Am I the only one who feels this way? The new GT looks as if it has been in production for a long time and is assembled from various pieces of conventional models. There is no feeling of newness.

superswiss

Well, that is AMG kinda in a nutshell. The cars are all based on the same architecture and powertrain, just different power levels, size and weight. A lot of parts are shared between them.

California John

And this is just what AMG said at the beginning....that they (the AMG SL63 and the hardtop GT) were basically to be the same car underneath with some different externals and features - most obviously a soft top versus a hardtop.

AMG GTR Pro

This seems to be what everyone thinks but I’m not sure that is what AMG has ever said. They said that they would share a platform but lots of cars share a platform. It doesn’t mean that they can drive like different cars. I heard a number in Pebble that like 95% of the body is different.

If in the end, the GT is just a hard top SL with some new body panels, it will be a huge failure but we won’t see until someone actually gets to drive one.

It doesn’t help that it weighs so much, has rear seats and lost the transaxle layout but AMG knows the performance targets the car needs to meet on the road even if it is more GT then it used to be.

California John

That is what AMG said - and often - in the early planning. There were videos of it at the time (a few years ago) - some of which I posted quite a while ago on the AMG SL63 forum - but of course you are right that doesn't mean they will drive exactly the same or be "skinned" the same. I had a GTS for 3 years and a GTC for 3 years. I can tell you that the SL63 exits corners faster on my favorite freeway transition skidpad. But what one likes or appreciates is always quite personal. Especially body panels and the looks.

W205C43PFL

If this makes you feel better (or add values in anyways), the taillights kind of look like it took inspiration from the Project One.

W205C43PFL

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaM8wfplr00

c400ry

I took my GTC on a roadie from Phoenix to Vegas a couple of weeks ago. I agree with many who say its not really a Grand Tourer. Reason being it really isn't great on long trips. Half, or more, of the roads on my drive had some type of road damage (potholes/missing pavement tiles) and/or poor quality asphalt. Since the GTC gives a lot of road feedback it ended up being fairly "grindy", noisy and annoying. However, once I got on decent, to nice, pavement it was very enjoyable. Especially in the canyons where I could kick it into Sport Plus or Race mode. Hard to replicate a feeling like that in most cars. Another main reason its not a true GT is there is VERY limited storage. I went alone with a carry-on size luggage and backpack. Needless to say that pretty much filled my trunk. If my lady would have come I would probably have to pull a trailer or strap her luggage to the roof I did buy the Roadster because again you can't replicate the feeling of the open air without it. I didn't have top down due to excessive heat. Better temps outside would have made it more enjoyable with it down. I mostly use my GTC as a daily driver for short runs (2 hours of less) and works well. I am not much of a track guy but would like to take it sometime. I was just brought up to baby my vehicles so pushing it hard (like at the AMG Driving Academy) makes me uncomfortable. Plus you can go through a set of brakes and tires in one day if you run it hard. Good 3-5k day at the track . Main reason I like my GTC is its unique and fun to drive. Definite sacrifice on those other items.

GTConn

That may be so...but the new GT looks absolutely nothing like the Project One, so nah, still not sold 😁

W205C43PFL

Fair enough, I mainly mean the taillights graphics.

alexasa

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Love it. I'd personally be spec'ing no aero+night package on sun yellow if I were in the market.

UCIMBZ

Just to emphasise that Sun Yellow is not Solarbeam Yellow.

alexasa

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MalibuScott

Different, not better.

thebishman

This is sounding better and better tbh. I can imagine the GT R version to be rather epic:


https://www.evo.co.uk/sports-cars/20...che-911-beater

superswiss

Yeah, the drive reviews are out.

Wolfman

kcirm

I've watched quite of few of the driving reviews and I must say, it's been a long time since I've seen such unanimous praise from reviewers. Probably since the last GT & E63s. As a SL owner, it gives some nice added perspective. Driving the SL, I thought AMG would have a hard time making the GT right. Not that the SL sucks, more that it's very focused in it's mission of being an all-around pleaser. Happy to see they seem to have figured out the winning formula. The design is bomb in and out, the driving is amazing, the car is fast, the emotion is even higher than the SL and it comes with comfort and perks.

I assume the discussion will quickly go from "This is just an SL with a hardtop" to "This is just the base GT" as we anticipate follow up models.

My personal hope and wish is that AMG nails the hybrid as well as they've nailed this one. If you remember, they specified that this chassis uses some modular-something-something tech to make it ready and effectively a hybrid drivetrain. Hopefully this means a low weight gain. If they can make it happen with +200lbs, that would be amazing. This, plus the learnings they've made from the somewhat sloppy GT63e 4DR and S63e could mean we have the potential for a proper hybrid step up that would deliver and uncompromised, modern & electrified performance driving experience. I had little to no hope they would, but now I do. We may see a proper poor man's SF90/Revuelto from Mercedes.

We all know the sun is setting for these big engine performance cars, but at least it seems AMG is going out with a bang.

W205C43PFL

The GT 63 S E Performance wasn't good at launch which I sort of get it since it was the first time they did anything like that, then the S 63 E Performance came out and once reviewers had time with it, they really like how much more refined the powertrain is. Same idea for the C 63 S E Performance, reviewers are praising it works much better in the GLC 63 S than the sedan. The sedan was hated for the weight, how the transmission, the E Performance system, the engine all speak different languages... (Well, let's just ignore the 4 vs 8 cylinder for the sake of this discussion...) I am hoping and I think it is likely that the new GT E Performance is what is so called the third times a charm where it is a highly refined machine.

benzbell

Will the GT63 S coupe most likely make an appearance in 2025? GT63 4-door coupe is 577 hp and the GT63 S 4-door coupe is 630 hp. Might be best to wait a year and get some wrinkles ironed out and some more HP. I'm definitely interested. Still don't like the giant ipad but can't do anything about it. I find it interesting how the car sounds so good when I thought they were having to "quiet" things down. My GLE 63 and C63 are muted. It sucks.

Drone_S213

Thought AMG E63s Wagon would be my last new car. 2025-2026 might have to lease a GT55 Coupe...old jobs at Missile Range and Oilfields both want me back. Think can return to the Dark Side until age 70?
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Wolfman

Order banks for the GT63 coupe are open in Germany since October 10 but who knows what will happen in the US. My guess still would be spring 2024, hopefully as a MY 25.

AMG 17GT

This car could be more in demand going forward. BMW just made its last V8 November 10….

superswiss

What do you mean last V8? The XM has a V8 hybrid setup and the upcoming M5 is likely getting the same powertrain.

AMG 17GT

https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=bm...e=sh/x/gs/m2/5

maybe just Munich?