Track question
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Track question
Greetings all,
FNG here, looking to buy myself a GTR. Love the resource this forum provides so thank you all for that. Coming from a 991 GT3 and a 991 GT3 Cup.
My question at the moment is how well the magno paint holds up on the track. Track cars get a lot of tire marks and general spooge which takes a fair amount of elbow grease to remove. How does the paint handle this and what do you use to remove it?
I'll have lots of other questions as this journey moves along so please be patient with me. I imagine the next one will be about what kind of slicks folks run and what wheels they use for them.
Thanks!
FNG here, looking to buy myself a GTR. Love the resource this forum provides so thank you all for that. Coming from a 991 GT3 and a 991 GT3 Cup.
My question at the moment is how well the magno paint holds up on the track. Track cars get a lot of tire marks and general spooge which takes a fair amount of elbow grease to remove. How does the paint handle this and what do you use to remove it?
I'll have lots of other questions as this journey moves along so please be patient with me. I imagine the next one will be about what kind of slicks folks run and what wheels they use for them.
Thanks!
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Greetings all,
FNG here, looking to buy myself a GTR. Love the resource this forum provides so thank you all for that. Coming from a 991 GT3 and a 991 GT3 Cup.
My question at the moment is how well the magno paint holds up on the track. Track cars get a lot of tire marks and general spooge which takes a fair amount of elbow grease to remove. How does the paint handle this and what do you use to remove it?
I'll have lots of other questions as this journey moves along so please be patient with me. I imagine the next one will be about what kind of slicks folks run and what wheels they use for them.
Thanks!
FNG here, looking to buy myself a GTR. Love the resource this forum provides so thank you all for that. Coming from a 991 GT3 and a 991 GT3 Cup.
My question at the moment is how well the magno paint holds up on the track. Track cars get a lot of tire marks and general spooge which takes a fair amount of elbow grease to remove. How does the paint handle this and what do you use to remove it?
I'll have lots of other questions as this journey moves along so please be patient with me. I imagine the next one will be about what kind of slicks folks run and what wheels they use for them.
Thanks!
One last thing: a previous owner of a GHM GTR actually had the whole car protected by Xpel Ultimate Plus, and whilst that obviously took away the matte looking finish, it actually created a fantastic looking car imho.
Happy hunting!
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Whether on paint or PPF, I've always used the following when doing the post-track tire-mark (and to/from track road-grime) removal:
- first use 50/50 rubbing alcohol via a soft cotton rags (I use cut-up old T-shirts)
- for remaining marks, use (Mothers pure) carnuba wax via same soft cotton rags
BTW, carnuba wax removes many types road grime, including road tar. The thing I like about carnuba wax is that I don't have to worry about it damaging the paint, in any way. I have much less trust for many of the automotive specialty products. Oh, and 50/50 rubby plus carnuba wax is often less expensive than having a hoard of specialty cleaners.
- first use 50/50 rubbing alcohol via a soft cotton rags (I use cut-up old T-shirts)
- for remaining marks, use (Mothers pure) carnuba wax via same soft cotton rags
BTW, carnuba wax removes many types road grime, including road tar. The thing I like about carnuba wax is that I don't have to worry about it damaging the paint, in any way. I have much less trust for many of the automotive specialty products. Oh, and 50/50 rubby plus carnuba wax is often less expensive than having a hoard of specialty cleaners.
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Whether on paint or PPF, I've always used the following when doing the post-track tire-mark (and to/from track road-grime) removal:
- first use 50/50 rubbing alcohol via a soft cotton rags (I use cut-up old T-shirts)
- for remaining marks, use (Mothers pure) carnuba wax via same soft cotton rags
BTW, carnuba wax removes many types road grime, including road tar. The thing I like about carnuba wax is that I don't have to worry about it damaging the paint, in any way. I have much less trust for many of the automotive specialty products. Oh, and 50/50 rubby plus carnuba wax is often less expensive than having a hoard of specialty cleaners.
- first use 50/50 rubbing alcohol via a soft cotton rags (I use cut-up old T-shirts)
- for remaining marks, use (Mothers pure) carnuba wax via same soft cotton rags
BTW, carnuba wax removes many types road grime, including road tar. The thing I like about carnuba wax is that I don't have to worry about it damaging the paint, in any way. I have much less trust for many of the automotive specialty products. Oh, and 50/50 rubby plus carnuba wax is often less expensive than having a hoard of specialty cleaners.
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Whether on paint or PPF, I've always used the following when doing the post-track tire-mark (and to/from track road-grime) removal:
- first use 50/50 rubbing alcohol via a soft cotton rags (I use cut-up old T-shirts)
- for remaining marks, use (Mothers pure) carnuba wax via same soft cotton rags
BTW, carnuba wax removes many types road grime, including road tar. The thing I like about carnuba wax is that I don't have to worry about it damaging the paint, in any way. I have much less trust for many of the automotive specialty products. Oh, and 50/50 rubby plus carnuba wax is often less expensive than having a hoard of specialty cleaners.
- first use 50/50 rubbing alcohol via a soft cotton rags (I use cut-up old T-shirts)
- for remaining marks, use (Mothers pure) carnuba wax via same soft cotton rags
BTW, carnuba wax removes many types road grime, including road tar. The thing I like about carnuba wax is that I don't have to worry about it damaging the paint, in any way. I have much less trust for many of the automotive specialty products. Oh, and 50/50 rubby plus carnuba wax is often less expensive than having a hoard of specialty cleaners.
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Whether on paint or PPF, I've always used the following when doing the post-track tire-mark (and to/from track road-grime) removal:
- first use 50/50 rubbing alcohol via a soft cotton rags (I use cut-up old T-shirts)
- for remaining marks, use (Mothers pure) carnuba wax via same soft cotton rags
BTW, carnuba wax removes many types road grime, including road tar. The thing I like about carnuba wax is that I don't have to worry about it damaging the paint, in any way. I have much less trust for many of the automotive specialty products. Oh, and 50/50 rubby plus carnuba wax is often less expensive than having a hoard of specialty cleaners.
- first use 50/50 rubbing alcohol via a soft cotton rags (I use cut-up old T-shirts)
- for remaining marks, use (Mothers pure) carnuba wax via same soft cotton rags
BTW, carnuba wax removes many types road grime, including road tar. The thing I like about carnuba wax is that I don't have to worry about it damaging the paint, in any way. I have much less trust for many of the automotive specialty products. Oh, and 50/50 rubby plus carnuba wax is often less expensive than having a hoard of specialty cleaners.
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Okay, very helpful responses so far. Thank you.
How long are you finding that the PPF lasts? I have seen older film bind to the paint and pull it off if let in place too long. I know the newer films are supposed to be better but none of them should stay on the car forever, right?
How long are you finding that the PPF lasts? I have seen older film bind to the paint and pull it off if let in place too long. I know the newer films are supposed to be better but none of them should stay on the car forever, right?
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Okay, very helpful responses so far. Thank you.
How long are you finding that the PPF lasts? I have seen older film bind to the paint and pull it off if let in place too long. I know the newer films are supposed to be better but none of them should stay on the car forever, right?
How long are you finding that the PPF lasts? I have seen older film bind to the paint and pull it off if let in place too long. I know the newer films are supposed to be better but none of them should stay on the car forever, right?
It can get brittle as it ages and be difficult to remove. Pulling the paint up is always a risk, but usually on panels that have been repainted or if the adhesion/bonding is poor for whatever reason. It really doesn't happen a lot when proper removal techniques are used.
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Xpel guaranteed for 10 years iirc. Have it removed/replaced professionally and you’ll be fine especially if it’s applied over OEM paint. Also consider protecting the windshield with Exoshield, etc.
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Simple:
Spray down with Koch Chemie Green Star APC diluted in the spray bottle 1:5, let dwell for 2-3 minutes then rinse.
If anything remains, break out the hammer, CarPro TarX, spray on, let dwell then rinse. In some cases light agitation with a microfiber towel is needed.
Spray down with Koch Chemie Green Star APC diluted in the spray bottle 1:5, let dwell for 2-3 minutes then rinse.
If anything remains, break out the hammer, CarPro TarX, spray on, let dwell then rinse. In some cases light agitation with a microfiber towel is needed.
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Many great PPF brands and models out there, if splitting hairs I prefer STEK and some Suntek product to Xpel, but all are good and I would use any.
I STRONGLY suggest you find the best installer you can afford, and don’t worry about what film they use, they all have unique characteristics in working with them, let the installer use what brand they are great at using.
XPELs popularity was/is primarily driven by its superior pattern cutting software, which to use requires film roll purchases, so that’s why you see that brand used a lot.
Also, don’t leave ANY PPF product on more than 7-10 years, it’ll be an absolute pain to get off and redo.
I STRONGLY suggest you find the best installer you can afford, and don’t worry about what film they use, they all have unique characteristics in working with them, let the installer use what brand they are great at using.
XPELs popularity was/is primarily driven by its superior pattern cutting software, which to use requires film roll purchases, so that’s why you see that brand used a lot.
Also, don’t leave ANY PPF product on more than 7-10 years, it’ll be an absolute pain to get off and redo.
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Whether on paint or PPF, I've always used the following when doing the post-track tire-mark (and to/from track road-grime) removal:
- first use 50/50 rubbing alcohol via a soft cotton rags (I use cut-up old T-shirts)
- for remaining marks, use (Mothers pure) carnuba wax via same soft cotton rags
BTW, carnuba wax removes many types road grime, including road tar. The thing I like about carnuba wax is that I don't have to worry about it damaging the paint, in any way. I have much less trust for many of the automotive specialty products. Oh, and 50/50 rubby plus carnuba wax is often less expensive than having a hoard of specialty cleaners.
- first use 50/50 rubbing alcohol via a soft cotton rags (I use cut-up old T-shirts)
- for remaining marks, use (Mothers pure) carnuba wax via same soft cotton rags
BTW, carnuba wax removes many types road grime, including road tar. The thing I like about carnuba wax is that I don't have to worry about it damaging the paint, in any way. I have much less trust for many of the automotive specialty products. Oh, and 50/50 rubby plus carnuba wax is often less expensive than having a hoard of specialty cleaners.
However, my advice still holds for non-matte paint and, given that I've used the stated techniques for decades, including on a 1983 Polar White MMZ that I daily drove for 27 years (over 0.5M mi), I have strong evidence that it's a good strategy when caring for MBZ paint.
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Just noticed this and have to say that I feel it's rather rude. You made your point about the special case of matte paint and I understand that. Personally, I never think about that case because I'd never have a matte-paint car (yes, my bad as that was the context of the question).
However, my advice still holds for non-matte paint and, given that I've used the stated techniques for decades, including on a 1983 Polar White MMZ that I daily drove for 27 years (over 0.5M mi), I have strong evidence that it's a good strategy when caring for MBZ paint.
However, my advice still holds for non-matte paint and, given that I've used the stated techniques for decades, including on a 1983 Polar White MMZ that I daily drove for 27 years (over 0.5M mi), I have strong evidence that it's a good strategy when caring for MBZ paint.
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