Couple weeks ago. Super fun. He’s a friend and really fast. He got a 1:32.07 but couldn’t get around me. Think I ran a 32.6 than lap. Interesting to watch where he catches up etc.

niceeee

I love your videos, again wish I had the stomach to put my car on track. Spent years doing that heavily in the corvette community (I was in DEEP with full caged, race prepped, enclosed trailer/F350 tow - I couldn't stop modding) then got out completely. I feel like I broke a huge habit and should never pick it up again but boy I like watching what you can do with this platform. Please get some better camera positions....a helmet can would rock!

Keep them coming.

Chuck

Dave - is this you that he's chasing?

Oh yes it is. He ran a 1:32.7. I was running 32s earlier as well but was having fun with a buddy and let him pass. We were running 35s mostly and I think a 34.8. Friends PB by full second over his 600LT he has more experience tracking in. He was stoked. I saw the 720 creeping on us.

thanks. Yeah I really love it. It’s very expensive. I’m at 2800 per day. 25 days this year … so much fun though. I like being able to drive to the track. Dont think I’ll ever go trailer. I see the appeal but that’s a whole other level.

I have a go pro and helmet mount just haven’t been using it. Lazy. So easy to toss my phone up with Ram mount and GPS with TrackAddict. Agree though. And I have been meaning to.

V8 puts distance vs the flat 6 in the straight. 911 driver better on the brakes.

Thanks for sharing the video. I wish I lived closer to Laguna Seca because it's such and iconic track. I agree that the 911 braked later and had faster corner speeds but I won't assign that to the drivers as it's a natural advantage of the platform. There is also the old adage: fast in slow out, slow in fast out. No trophies on the line anyway so all that matters is the fun that was had - and I'm envious. Kudos.

The 720 was leaving seconds on the track by accelerating out of the corners later than he needed. The dude had some game but needs some coaching!😁

I am surprised at the 2800 number. Do you kill a set of tires in a single track day? When I talked to a GTR Pro owner at Thunderhill, he mentioned that the running costs for this car were fairly low especially for the brakes compared to comparable cars. A set of Cup2s is $2K and should last two or three track days. Probably a set of pads would also go in two or three days. I get two days on the Carbotech pads at Laguna in the M3. So that's another $500 or so for the pads. Do you install the brake pads yourself, or do you have a shop do it? That might explain the difference.

just need to sit and add up the real costs which most people don’t like to do. 3 days on tires. I do pads /rotors myself.

$700--900 tires
$300 rotor wear
$200 pads
$500 track day rental
$400-500 fuel
$400 insurance. (Open track annual divided by 20 track days )
$150 oil / dif and trans fluids

Not a cheap sport.

Do you change oil/diff/trans after every track event or is this an amortized cost across three or four events?

The M3 is working out to 1300~1500 per event, but that is because I don't purchase the track insurance. Otherwise, it feels fairly comparable.

oil every 4-5 track days

transmission and dif 10-15 days and it’s expensive. Lots of labor. I went 20 track days and trans started overheating and giving me messages. Changed it and it went away.

You might be able to keep it just under $2k with insurance. You prob don’t use as much fuel as me either. I get 3 mpg on track. 😮

Did you run any cooling ducts for the front brakes? Also, do you use a stud conversion kit to make the hubs last longer due to frequent tire/wheel changes.

has Tikt brake ducts. No stud conversion. Maybe a good idea. Never thought of it. I’m have two sets of wheels and also doing brakes constantly they get removed a lot.

Wow, that's one quick GTR

A lot of M3 track rats run stud conversion kits as the bolts and nuts get tired from the heat stress and frequent wheel changes. Typically, the studs get tossed and replaced after a season or two. This is easier than changing a hub in case things go south.

great info. Which tires do you run? I currently track a Mclaren 12c and my cost are similar, but probably get an extra day or 2 out brakes/tires (Goodyear sc3) and it’s 400 lbs less weight. However it’s down frequently and the CPO warranty is very expensive (8k a year). So I’m really considering a GTR and preferably with the Renntech turbo upgrade. Not sure how well these cars do on track though with upgraded turbos/power and managing heat.

friend had a 12c as well. I run Nankang AR1, CRS and Hoosier A7. I could get a 4th day on tires but grip is a lot less and after doing the math it only saves $300 on a nearly $3k day. Not worth it ! Grip on track is kind of nice to have

I upgraded to pure 900 turbos. $3500 using your factory as a core swap. $2k install plus tune. Way way better than stock turbos with tune. No comparison. Down low is the same. Mid and top end much much better. How car should have came from factory. I have had mine on for about 10k miles and 30 track days. Zero issues. 👍

was it Jeff cook? I know he had one and very fast at laguna. I have SC3, sc3R and got some CRS to try.

that’s great to hear, I wasn’t sure how well these cars would handle the additional power but coming from Mclaren power to weight I know I’ll need more then stock power from a gtr!

Yes Jeff. He was running 1:30.5 range on old track. Don’t know anyone faster than him on any car. Dude is a Phenom. He just ran a 28 damp track , passenger and 2nd day R7 in a 765 lt. 😮. Oh and going 9/10 as it isn’t his car.

with the smaller turbo upgrade which is clearly super reliable the car is fairly dead even with 600 LT on the straights. Considering the get is a lot heavier that’s really good.

ya dudes an absolute stud driver. I watch a lot of his videos.

nice, if it keeps up with 600LT on the straights it’s faster then my 12c on the straights

What traction control setting do you use, or do you go fully off? On M3s a lot of people disable TC completely to avoid cooking the brakes.

*Stock cooling system
*Larger housing Premier Tuning Group PTG1000 turbos with PTG tuning
*4 mile track, Road America which loves horsepower and great brakes
*so far so happy……..

Not much faster than the PTG1000’s going into turn 1 at low to mid 170’s, think there’s a 176-178mph in there somewhere, my buddies 1,000whp Nissan GTR does low to mid 180’s, ZL1’s, GT3’s, etc get 150’s…..so big PTG1000’s do make quite the difference if looking for power.
A bit nervous about temps and back pressure on a track like that with smaller stock housing turbo variants where larger wheels get machined in, maybe on smaller slower tracks ok….or for 1 lap cars, but not sure about 20-30min session…..like the bigger housings for that.

that’s great info, thank you. I was looking at the PTG1000’s they seem more ideal for track use with mid/upper end power and being physically larger they should handle temps and back pressure better. Do you know what 60-130 times are like? My 12c is about 6.7-6.8 range.