Do I wax the panorama roof?
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Do I wax the panorama roof?
I took delivery of my new 2006 BLACK SL500 yesterday. I bought a large supply of Meguir's products and microfiber towels of every shape and size to detail the car. Do I wax the panorama roof, just like the rest of the car?
Here's a photo of it when I took delivery of it at the Mercedes Delivery Showroom in Sindelfingen Germany in February. It took seven weeks for it to arrive at the port of Long Beach, CA. It has been a long wait, but worth it! It is beautiful and so much fun to drive!
Here's a photo of it when I took delivery of it at the Mercedes Delivery Showroom in Sindelfingen Germany in February. It took seven weeks for it to arrive at the port of Long Beach, CA. It has been a long wait, but worth it! It is beautiful and so much fun to drive!
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No harm in waxing the glass. You might also consider RainX, RainShield or similar product, depends on your preference. I use RainX on the windshield 2-3 times a year and on the side glass once a year.
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Should be fine to wax, polish, or RainX it. I always polish my windshield and other glass w/ Klassa AIO. It keeps them looking crystal clear and clean. Water spots don't stick and my wipers have never operated so smoothly. In fact, I sometimes don't even need the wipers because the rain just sheets off by itself.
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Originally Posted by spnslc
I took delivery of my new 2006 BLACK SL500 yesterday. I bought a large supply of Meguir's products and microfiber towels of every shape and size to detail the car. Do I wax the panorama roof, just like the rest of the car?
Here's a photo of it when I took delivery of it at the Mercedes Delivery Showroom in Sindelfingen Germany in February. It took seven weeks for it to arrive at the port of Long Beach, CA. It has been a long wait, but worth it! It is beautiful and so much fun to drive!
Here's a photo of it when I took delivery of it at the Mercedes Delivery Showroom in Sindelfingen Germany in February. It took seven weeks for it to arrive at the port of Long Beach, CA. It has been a long wait, but worth it! It is beautiful and so much fun to drive!
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I have only had my SL five days and I love the pano roof. I wouldn't have a car without a sunroof. My Highlander has one and so have all my previous cars. It opens up the car with lots of light. I have never thought they were too hot, either. I have never used the screen to close my pano or the sunroofs of previous cars.
It is too early to tell about rattles with my new SL. So far, everything about the car is perfect. The only problem is wiping the smile off my face. It is just a "rush" to drive.
It is too early to tell about rattles with my new SL. So far, everything about the car is perfect. The only problem is wiping the smile off my face. It is just a "rush" to drive.
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Originally Posted by RJC
How do you guys like your pano's; I've reading about creaks and rattles?
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Originally Posted by lkirchner
No rattles or creaks on the E55 occasional creaks on the SL55 but it is not the pano roof. It is the top mechanism but the dealer has been able to quiet it.
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How long have you had your E55? I may be getting one tomorrow...
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I always use Zaino on my sunroof (Z2). Also remember to clay it when you clay the rest of the car (which I would reccommend doing right away).
I'm not as big of a fan of RainX as I once was. I find that it's much harder to buff off than the Zaino, and it also clouds up after awhile. And for some reason, on my E Class, it makes the wipers skip when i use it on the windshield. I now use a clay bar to clean my windows every month or so, and just use a regular quality glass cleaner. I find that this process leaves my widows sparkling clean, and does not interfere with my wipers. Of course, the rain doesn't roll off the windows as nice as with the RainX.
Originally Posted by SL BRABUS
RainX work better than wax.........
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Originally Posted by revstriker
I always use Zaino on my sunroof (Z2). Also remember to clay it when you clay the rest of the car (which I would reccommend doing right away).
I'm not as big of a fan of RainX as I once was. I find that it's much harder to buff off than the Zaino, and it also clouds up after awhile. And for some reason, on my E Class, it makes the wipers skip when i use it on the windshield. I now use a clay bar to clean my windows every month or so, and just use a regular quality glass cleaner. I find that this process leaves my widows sparkling clean, and does not interfere with my wipers. Of course, the rain doesn't roll off the windows as nice as with the RainX.
I'm not as big of a fan of RainX as I once was. I find that it's much harder to buff off than the Zaino, and it also clouds up after awhile. And for some reason, on my E Class, it makes the wipers skip when i use it on the windshield. I now use a clay bar to clean my windows every month or so, and just use a regular quality glass cleaner. I find that this process leaves my widows sparkling clean, and does not interfere with my wipers. Of course, the rain doesn't roll off the windows as nice as with the RainX.
I just had a mobile detailer do my whole car on Easter Sunday w/ Zaino as the final coat--glass too. Will see how that works. Hope it doesn't cloud up or cause my wipers to skip...
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Originally Posted by Jayhawk
I've been using Klasse's AIO on my glass and my wipers glide silently across the glass--when I even have to use them. Rain just sheets off the glass when I'm driving, so I don't need wipers much of the time.
I just had a mobile detailer do my whole car on Easter Sunday w/ Zaino as the final coat--glass too. Will see how that works. Hope it doesn't cloud up or cause my wipers to skip...
I just had a mobile detailer do my whole car on Easter Sunday w/ Zaino as the final coat--glass too. Will see how that works. Hope it doesn't cloud up or cause my wipers to skip...
I've used Zaino Z2 also on my glass before and that has worked fine (although I haven't tried it on my E Class). I know in the past that RainX sheeted the water off the glass much better than the Zaino, and on other cars, I have had no issue with the wipers. I'm not sure why I get an issue with them on the E. But RainX does cloud up a bit. And every time I would wash the car, I would get streak marks on the glass.
Currently, I am quite happy without anything on the windows. The water doesn't sheet like it does with RainX or Zaino, but the wipers work perfect, and the windows are completely streak free after washing.
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Originally Posted by revstriker
You do realize that Zaino will not correctly bond if you apply it over something else (such as AIO). It may look good right after it's done, but it won't last very long. Same thing with just using Zaino Z2 without first applying Z1 or mixing in the correct amount of accelerator. You will not get the correct chemical reaction. Not much of a detailer if he didn't know this about a product he uses.
I've used Zaino Z2 also on my glass before and that has worked fine (although I haven't tried it on my E Class). I know in the past that RainX sheeted the water off the glass much better than the Zaino, and on other cars, I have had no issue with the wipers. I'm not sure why I get an issue with them on the E. But RainX does cloud up a bit. And every time I would wash the car, I would get streak marks on the glass.
Currently, I am quite happy without anything on the windows. The water doesn't sheet like it does with RainX or Zaino, but the wipers work perfect, and the windows are completely streak free after washing.
I've used Zaino Z2 also on my glass before and that has worked fine (although I haven't tried it on my E Class). I know in the past that RainX sheeted the water off the glass much better than the Zaino, and on other cars, I have had no issue with the wipers. I'm not sure why I get an issue with them on the E. But RainX does cloud up a bit. And every time I would wash the car, I would get streak marks on the glass.
Currently, I am quite happy without anything on the windows. The water doesn't sheet like it does with RainX or Zaino, but the wipers work perfect, and the windows are completely streak free after washing.
I will report back after a few weeks and a few rains as to possible problems.
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Originally Posted by Jayhawk
Yes, I was aware of the bonding issue you mentioned, and more importantly the detailer I used is a real pro and even helped Sol write the book on Zaino products. I heard on the forums that he gets early evaluation samples to test out and report on. He has used most of the various polishes, sealants, and waxes at one time or another and knows well the various interaction effects. He also knew I had AIOed the glass and you can bet I will be keeping an eye on it over time. This guy's full detail included a hand wash, clay, 2 step polish, Zaino for the paint; wheels and tires cleaned, tires dressed, wheels polished; interior starts with vacuum, then steam clean mats, clean the carpet, clean and condition the leather, clean and protect all vinyl. He even cleaned the trunk. He was really very good, and I know this because I have spent a lot of time on the various detailer's forums over the past year, just to be sure I could correctly evaluate prospective detailers.
I will report back after a few weeks and a few rains as to possible problems.
I will report back after a few weeks and a few rains as to possible problems.
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Originally Posted by revstriker
Sounds good. If I am reading this correctly, he clayed the car and then applied a polish (I'm assuming 2 different abrasive levels), and then the Zaino? If this is the case, then he was not really applying the Zaino over something, so you should not have an issue.
But I still plan to keep a close eye on things over the next few months.
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Originally Posted by Kar don
i have put zaino over AIO multiple times with no bonding issues.
Also, I had the exact same thing happen with Zaino Z2 without using Z1 or the EFX Accelerator. Looked great when it was done, but after one wash, you could tell the finish wasn't as nice as it should have been one week after being completed.
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Originally Posted by revstriker
Interesting. I have tried zaino over NXT and did have an issue. As I said earlier, it looked great right after it was done. But after the first car wash, a week later, it looked like I hadn't touched it in months, and the finish was no longer slick like it normally is. Perhaps AIO and zaino share similar properties which allow this to work.
Also, I had the exact same thing happen with Zaino Z2 without using Z1 or the EFX Accelerator. Looked great when it was done, but after one wash, you could tell the finish wasn't as nice as it should have been one week after being completed.
Also, I had the exact same thing happen with Zaino Z2 without using Z1 or the EFX Accelerator. Looked great when it was done, but after one wash, you could tell the finish wasn't as nice as it should have been one week after being completed.
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Originally Posted by Jayhawk
Could it have been the car wash or soap and/or water you used? I have heard that AIO works w/ most sealants and wax products, but I have also read reports of problems. There a so many variables involved in detailing...
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Originally Posted by revstriker
Could be. The car wash soap I always use is Zaino Z7. I've never tried zaino over AIO though. Once instance it was over NXT, and the other was zaino over zaino, only without the ZFX (my ZFX had dried up when I went to use it, so I just left it out). Both times it appeared like the zaino worked just fine, but both times after one wash, there was a noticeable difference. Normally when I apply a coat of zaino, all it takes is a washing and a light coat of Z6 to get the finish right back to where it was.
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Originally Posted by Jayhawk
You might want to take a good polish and go back to a clean, clear, finish. Then put a good sealant or wax on and see how that works. I am anxious to see what happens after a wash or two, but the car is so clean now I don't want to mess w/ it. And it might be a while since I use a car duster every few days and QD every week or two. So unless we get a lot of rain it could be weeks before I can find out much. (Little or no rain is predicted for the next several weeks...)
Let us know how it goes with yours. Hopefully, it will still look great after several weeks.
btw: I follow a similar regiment with a duster each night, and some Z6 as needed (every few days).
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Don't use wax on your glass top as it will eventually build up in the molding areas and look horrible.
I use and recommend Aquapel. It's far better than RainX or anything else I have used for my clients cars.
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I use and recommend Aquapel. It's far better than RainX or anything else I have used for my clients cars.
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