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Old 04-04-2007, 10:03 AM
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Cdi Amg?

Is there such thing as an AMG CDI?

If So anyone know anything about them or got a link?

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There is no such thing.

AMG builds only gasoline engines.
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Originally Posted by lkchris
There is no such thing.

AMG builds only gasoline engines.
There WAS such a thing. The 2001-2003 C30 CDI AMG was the first, and only, diesel tuned by AMG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pL-LiSNTzY
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The engine starts life as the 2.7L I-5 CDI and is bored/stroked to 3.0L. It also uses the extremely rare and very coveted GT2559V turbo. The largest VNT turbo before jumping to a GT3782V

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Originally Posted by 240D 3.0T
There WAS such a thing. The 2001-2003 C30 CDI AMG was the first, and only, diesel tuned by AMG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pL-LiSNTzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DXQtFiF8-8


The engine starts life as the 2.7L I-5 CDI and is bored/stroked to 3.0L. It also uses the extremely rare and very coveted GT2559V turbo. The largest VNT turbo before jumping to a GT3782V
:drool:,......:drool: and more :drool:

We could only wish our government would get it together to allow a sweet car like that to be sold here.
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The government is not stopping them. The auto manufacturers are the ones responsible for not selling them here.
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Originally Posted by 240D 3.0T
There WAS such a thing. The 2001-2003 C30 CDI AMG was the first, and only, diesel tuned by AMG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pL-LiSNTzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DXQtFiF8-8


The engine starts life as the 2.7L I-5 CDI and is bored/stroked to 3.0L. It also uses the extremely rare and very coveted GT2559V turbo. The largest VNT turbo before jumping to a GT3782V
240:

What is so special about this super turbo? Can it be installed in my 2006 CDi without affecting the ECU?
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I wonder why MB did not install the super turbo on a straight six engine. The 5 cylinder does not make sense. Inherently imbalanced.
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Originally Posted by harkgar
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What is so special about this super turbo? Can it be installed in my 2006 CDi without affecting the ECU?
It will bolt up but not without remapping how the ECU controls the turbo.
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Originally Posted by 240D 3.0T
It will bolt up but not without remapping how the ECU controls the turbo.
First of all I have to clock up some mileage in case there is some warranty issue I am unaware of. If something happens I know it is not due to modifications to the car.

Secondly, I shall try a tuning box. Cheaper and more driveage. Reversible.
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Originally Posted by 240D 3.0T
There WAS such a thing. The 2001-2003 C30 CDI AMG was the first, and only, diesel tuned by AMG.
The C30CDI's (sedan, coupe and station) have been available from 2003 up to 2005/6.
Eventhough these cars were factory AMG diesels they only came with an AMG engine, bumpers & skirts, brakes & rims and that was it...no AMG in the interior at all (other then an AMG mark in the IC and a C30 mark on the shiftknob)...these C30s still had the same interiors as any other 203 (which makes them a kind of boring).

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The C30CDI's (sedan, coupe and station) have been available from 2003 up to 2005/6.
Eventhough these cars were factory AMG diesels they only came with an AMG engine, bumpers & skirts, brakes & rims and that was it...no AMG in the interior at all (other then an AMG mark in the IC and a C30 mark on the shiftknob)...these C30s still had the same interiors as any other 203 (which makes them a kind of boring).

greetingz,
I am looking for an old style MB oil dipstick for my 2006 E320 CDi with a conventional red or yellow plastic finger ring that can remain inside the dipping metal tube after checking the oil level. Since Europeans have more versions of MB diesels may be I can get one to fit my car.

This expensive MB oil measuring "tool" is the height of stupidity. This is truly the "tool" of the century.
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I am looking for an old style MB oil dipstick for my 2006 E320 CDi with a conventional red or yellow plastic finger ring that can remain inside the dipping metal tube after checking the oil level. Since Europeans have more versions of MB diesels may be I can get one to fit my car. This expensive MB oil measuring "tool" is the height of stupidity. This is truly the "tool" of the century.
IF Mercedes made one (they don't) you'd have to remove the plastic engine cover every time you wanted to access it.
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if there is a dipstick

Originally Posted by lkchris
IF Mercedes made one (they don't) you'd have to remove the plastic engine cover every time you wanted to access it.
I can always leave one of the 2 black plastic shrouds off.

I wonder why MB is so stupid. They amended their way in some of their latest cars.

The standard answer from MB is that "the computer" can tell you when there is insufficient oil. MB is not well known for fail-safe electronics. There is nothing to beat a low tech dipstick. Gravity does not break down.
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Originally Posted by harkgar
I can always leave one of the 2 black plastic shrouds off.

I wonder why MB is so stupid. They amended their way in some of their latest cars.

The standard answer from MB is that "the computer" can tell you when there is insufficient oil. MB is not well known for fail-safe electronics. There is nothing to beat a low tech dipstick. Gravity does not break down.
I program computers and I wouldn't trust one to tell me my oil was low unless I had to.

There are too many things that can gum and gunk up to foul something up like the sensing of low oil.

o well.....
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I personally am not a fan of Diesel.. especially if it was an AMG Diesel (hogging more gas..) Diesel here in San Diego is WAYYY more than premium gasoline at most places.
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Then why are you in the diesel forum, polluting it with your hate speech?

That AMG CDI still gets better MPG and emits less pollution that most of the gas cars on Americas streets.
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Then why are you in the diesel forum, polluting it with your hate speech?

That AMG CDI still gets better MPG and emits less pollution that most of the gas cars on Americas streets.
I wasn't hating on Diesel.. It wasn't a hate speach. It was my $0.02 and I'm sorry for sharing my opinion.....
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I personally am not a fan of Diesel.. especially if it was an AMG Diesel (hogging more gas..) Diesel here in San Diego is WAYYY more than premium gasoline at most places.
In Northern LA county if you wanted to by diesel in city this is true, at the truck stops not such at all. The in city price was hiked on purpose, there was no reason a fuel that cost less the kerosene to produce spiked 2.30 cents a gallon in less than 4 years because of low sulfur requirments while the truck stop prices were still horrid but less than half.

Even so lets do the math; 4$ a gallon for diesel and your 4,000 pound car gets what? 35 - 40 mpg highway real world driving? I believe MB is boasting 700 miles to the tank and that's somewhat conservative seeing they have 21 gallon tanks.

Now, lets put a similar performing premium gasoline burning 4,000 pound car with real world driving and....yeap....not even close......

A diesel won the Le Mans this year, Corvette is selling a twin turbo V8 diesel in 09, Lambos are already stuff with a twin turbo v10 diesel and 7000 pound trucks have been runnin 10 sec quarters in the US sense the late 90s with diesels along with the VW Lupo witch gets 70 mpg city and the Honda Accord diesel that got a whopping 75 mpg highway on test drives.

Why dont we have these cars here in the US en masse?
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Corvette is selling a twin turbo V8 diesel in 09
That was an April Fools joke, BTW. It's not going to happen.
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In Northern LA county if you wanted to by diesel in city this is true, at the truck stops not such at all. The in city price was hiked on purpose, there was no reason a fuel that cost less the kerosene to produce spiked 2.30 cents a gallon in less than 4 years because of low sulfur requirments while the truck stop prices were still horrid but less than half.

Even so lets do the math; 4$ a gallon for diesel and your 4,000 pound car gets what? 35 - 40 mpg highway real world driving? I believe MB is boasting 700 miles to the tank and that's somewhat conservative seeing they have 21 gallon tanks.

Now, lets put a similar performing premium gasoline burning 4,000 pound car with real world driving and....yeap....not even close......

A diesel won the Le Mans this year, Corvette is selling a twin turbo V8 diesel in 09, Lambos are already stuff with a twin turbo v10 diesel and 7000 pound trucks have been runnin 10 sec quarters in the US sense the late 90s with diesels along with the VW Lupo witch gets 70 mpg city and the Honda Accord diesel that got a whopping 75 mpg highway on test drives.

Why dont we have these cars here in the US en masse?

Yeah.


I see the benifits of Diesel but for people like me who live in the city it would make me go broke at the high prices... hahaha


But then again my CLS gets 13mpg.. hahaha so it probably balances it out..
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Originally Posted by 240D 3.0T
That was an April Fools joke, BTW. It's not going to happen.
Shoot! I could definantly see a cummins V8 twin blower with a tunning box get 1000 ft pds of torque....o well....
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I see the benifits of Diesel but for people like me who live in the city it would make me go broke at the high prices... hahaha


But then again my CLS gets 13mpg.. hahaha so it probably balances it out..
While I lived in N LA I drive over 40 miles to work, one way on the 210 in a vw TDI Passat that got around 45 mpg with upgraded injectors. I loved it I just hated what they did to diesel prices in socal.

Hey, maybe this 640 hp 80 mpg hybrid mini would be sold in the US one day....http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006...mini.php....or something similar .....
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While I lived in N LA I drive over 40 miles to work, one way on the 210 in a vw TDI Passat that got around 45 mpg with upgraded injectors. I loved it I just hated what they did to diesel prices in socal.

Hey, maybe this 640 hp 80 mpg hybrid mini would be sold in the US one day....http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006...mini.php....or something similar .....
Woah. Sweettttt

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Originally Posted by erh7771
While I lived in N LA I drive over 40 miles to work, one way on the 210 in a vw TDI Passat that got around 45 mpg with upgraded injectors. I loved it I just hated what they did to diesel prices in socal.

Hey, maybe this 640 hp 80 mpg hybrid mini would be sold in the US one day....http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006...mini.php....or something similar .....
I had a 5 speed manual 1999 VW Jetta TDi which did from day one 40 mpg city and 50 mpg highway no matter how hard I tried to hammer the go pedal. I had an Upsolute chip on the car too so I know your claim is genuine.

The 1999 E55 (no supercharger) I traded in for the E320 CDi did best 20-21 mpg on the highway, city 16 mpg without a/c on. The CDi did 39 mpg and never dropped under 20 mpg and it has only 6,000 miles on the clock. This means diesel has to be almost double the price of regular gasoline before the CLS55 can match it in fuel economy. Remember the CLS supercharged burns premium, not regular gas. In Toronto diesel is cheaper than regular 96.9 cents vs 103 cents so it is a no brainer to choose diesel.

With a tuning box diesels can add on enormous horsepower while the gasoline counterparts are more expensive to modify. I love those diesel trucks blowing black smoke.
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I personally am not a fan of Diesel.. especially if it was an AMG Diesel (hogging more gas..)
Diesels don't hog gas.


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