Babilonian

How good are they? How reliable are they? Are they cheap to maintain? Do they require same maintenance as other E class? How many KM/tank do you get? Are they worth it?

Hope some of you guys out there can help out. what is a good price for this year?

Thanks.

lkchris

They are not cheap to maintain and they require more maintenance than gas models.

If you get one, it will be the best car you've ever owned.

zemun1234

I see in you profile both E320 CDI and GL320 CDI and I am wondering if you can compare models ..I hace 2005 E320 CDI and no problems so far but I am missing 4WD.

Could you please give us a few comments about above models ...?

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harkgar

Big differences between the two "CDi" engines.

The engine in the E class is the last of the straight 6 diesels sold in North America. They were sold only in the E series, 2005 & 2006. None were sold in 4 Matic.

Engines from 2007 and up are all V-6 with multiple "filters". Used in the E, R, ML and GL classes.

Engines from 2008 and newer are like the above adding urea injection. No spar e tires in these cars - space used to house urea tanks. These engines will lose power and eventually stop running if the urea levels are low. Avoid these engines.

TMAllison

In the USA, "No" E class W210 or W211 has ever received urea/adblue. The W212 in 2010 will/would be the first. Last time I looked on MBUSA's website it did not appear the W212 would be offered with a diesel option.

lkchris

The V6 is a WAY more sophisticated engine than the I6. Better in every aspect.

Unfortunately, it's basically incompatible with the 7-speed transmission it comes with. The list of DTBs is long.

The E-class is a noticeably higher quality vehicle than the GL. Still, IMHO the GL has no competitors in its class.

It's the 2009 "Alabama cars" (ML, GL, R) that come with the urea injection and that means runflat tires and no spare tire, a deal killer for me.

W212 diesels coming in 2010; maybe station wagons, too, but not as likely.

Babilonian

If they're not cheap to maintain and need lots of it, then what part is the best part?
Reason I'm asking is that those who drove/had the old sd 300 models in the eighties have praised it allot as a low maintenance car. I don't know though if they were just in love with it or if it was truly low maintenance.

TMAllison

The best part would be driving one, its level of tech, comfort, safety and efficiency.

I've owned a few 80's 300D's, 90 2.5 Turbo, the 99 E300 and an 01 E320.

I think the 80's vintage folks learn to live with lots of things that don't work and are generous in their descriptions of what is considered "required" maint.

I've had little prob working on my E300. I love the fact it has a computer that will point one to the /system/component causing a fault. The 80's guys have finally mastered thier MittyVac and just can't bear to move up in technology I think.