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Old 03-04-2011, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by isstay
Also I said that my state requires label for the cetane number.
Originally Posted by 240D 3.0T
There are none that require it. However, there may be specific city or county ordinances that require it.
240D is wrong as usual. Several states require cetane labels. Virgina is one that comes to mind. Quick google of "virgina weights & measures" lead me to this page:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...cod+59.1-167.1

§ 59.1-167.1. Labeling of motor fuels; notification to reseller.
A. Every dispensing device used in the retail sale of any motor fuel shall be plainly and conspicuously labeled with:
1. The brand name, trademark or trade name of the motor fuel it contains;
2. The grade, blend or mixture of the motor fuel it contains;
3. The octane or cetane rating of the motor fuel it contains; and
4. If the product contains one percent or more ethanol or methanol, information identifying the kind of alcohol and the percentage of each at the time of blending, in letters not less than one inch in height.

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Sorry, there has been no change in your trolling status.

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Originally Posted by b4black
240D is correct as usual. No states require cetane labels. Virgina is the only one that comes to mind. Quick google of "virgina weights & measures" lead me to this page:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...cod+59.1-167.1
Originally Posted by isstay
look closely at pages 9 and 37-58.
Nothing in the linked document states different from what I have posted.

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Originally Posted by 240D 3.0T
Thanks for providing that link that shows I was mistaken. I apologize to everyone, epsecially isstay, for the misinformation I provided earlier.
No problem.
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You two should stop acting like children.

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Folks, do not continue distorting other people's quotes. And "he started it" is childish. Carry on.
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I guess because is his job (240D's), he is a diesel mechanic - he is against additives (if your fuel system is not broken you don't go to service).
But he should look at the facts and accept them. I don’t know where he works like diesel tech, but I definitely will try to stay away from that place.
Just my 2 cents.
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(if your fuel system is not broken you don't go to service).
Ah so that means drivers, who have no training or experience fixing engines, know better than ASE certified mechanics. Sure, makes perfect sense.
Where was he asking you to pay him to fix your vehicle? Oh yeah, this is a forum where people help you for FREE.

But he should look at the facts and accept them.
Yes, the facts they do nothing beneficial.

I don’t know where he works like diesel tech, but I definitely will try to stay away from that place.
Instead of violating TOU rules with ad hoc attacks, how about informing everyone what do YOU do for a living so we can assess your credibility based on your occupation too.
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Ah so that means drivers, who have no training or experience fixing engines, know better than ASE certified mechanics. Sure, makes perfect sense.
Where was he asking you to pay him to fix your vehicle? Oh yeah, this is a forum where people help you for FREE.


Yes, the facts they do nothing beneficial.


Instead of violating TOU rules with ad hoc attacks, how about informing everyone what do YOU do for a living so we can assess your credibility based on your occupation too.
I'm guessing this doucher is actually 240.

Edit: just saw "zedd" on the other site with the same sig as the 240 troll.

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Originally Posted by Zedd
know better than ASE certified mechanics.

Where was he asking you to pay him to fix your vehicle? Oh yeah, this is a forum where people help you for FREE.

Yes, the facts they do nothing beneficial.

Instead of violating TOU rules with ad hoc attacks, how about informing everyone what do YOU do for a living so we can assess your credibility based on your occupation too.
How do you know that he is ASE certified? Or this is you 240D, or Zedd or ForcedInduction or .......... ? Look at the attached picture you may recognize yourself, or someone else will?


Not now, but when breaks down because of his good advice! Good think I am far away fron him!!! By the way I see him offering lots of things for sell on different forums!!! I guess he is asking for money if not me, to someone else....


For you...., except making your clients thinking if they should listen to your b******t.

I don’t violate any forum rules, I don’t change people’s quotes, I just posts facts as I find them, and if I cannot prove something, I will accept the facts and I will admit my mistake (read above). And trust me, I know how to use World Wide Web, plus I speak couple languages which gives me better data base, compare to yours, if you know how to search for info….. at all. You may want to look at this....

http://www.epa.gov/oms/regs/fuels/additive/web-dies.htm

As you can see, this info is relativle new...

And only one thing:
I don’t poop where I make mine living, because I know that I don't know everything!!! Nail this in your W**D Head and don't argue against the facts.

No more Comments On his Stu...... no matter of his name. Discusion clossed for me.

Thanks everyone suppling facts to prove that we are right. and happy .

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Take it easy, Isstay. 240 has already been banned...
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Take it easy, Isstay. 240 has already been banned...

and he gets a different user name and comes back...........
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and he gets a different user name and comes back...........

I think they can tell from the server address who is who.

I think he was banned from a VW TDI forum also, diesel tec from Colorado
"Diesel Benz" same sort of thing.
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I think they can tell from the server address who is who.

I think he was banned from a VW TDI forum also, diesel tec from Colorado
"Diesel Benz" same sort of thing.
I'd love to know where he works so his employers knew what sort of crap he spews (and so locals could avoid taking their car there).
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Your car must be a flyer. 400 foot pound of torque in a C body. We do not get that in North America.
Not entirely true.My "d"...a 3 Series....has 425 ft lbs of torque that can most certainly pin you back in your seat.I'm likely to lose that soon if my plan to buy an E350 Bluetec comes to pass but it's OK...I'll gladly trade the extra torque for the added luxury,room and Distronic.
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The bluetec actually has between 388-400 Ft/lbs stock (numbers vary depending on which source you look at, even within Mercedes' sites). With a KD-Box, that'll bump it up another 30-50. I'd still prefer to have a 335d coupe though.. but they don't sell those here.
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The bluetec actually has between 388-400 Ft/lbs stock (numbers vary depending on which source you look at, even within Mercedes' sites). With a KD-Box, that'll bump it up another 30-50. I'd still prefer to have a 335d coupe though.. but they don't sell those here.
O yes good old I6 vs. crappy V6.........
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Actually I would prefer it because of the added power, which is thanks to two turbos, in a sporty, smaller car that actually gets better gas mileage. Do you really want to revive the v6 vs I6 argument? Bored since 240 left?
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Do you really want to revive the v6 vs I6 argument? Bored since 240 left?
No. But I drove diesel 2011 ML back in january and I was very disapointed. Just my oppinion. And why BMW sticks w/I6 anyway, they also have to comply w/European safety rules?
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The S class Bluetec puts out more horsepower and torque than the 335d. It is just a different ECU tune. Shows how much reserves are actually available in the MB V6 diesel. I wish I could get the S Class tune done in my E350 Bluetec.
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The S class Bluetec puts out more horsepower and torque than the 335d. It is just a different ECU tune. Shows how much reserves are actually available in the MB V6 diesel. I wish I could get the S Class tune done in my E350 Bluetec.
We can't compare those engines. The only common thing is the technology used. Engine configuration brings all the differences. Can't beat Hp output on 335d, not to mention 535d, a little bit more torque at lower and wider rpm band that is the best part. Look at the attached datasheets.

I will keep the car on the picture out of this, because is simply a bad **$, but has a good match w/745d. V8 against V8, 4.0 against 4.4, twin turbos. The sad part is that they both are history.
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Originally Posted by isstay
No. But I drove diesel 2011 ML back in january and I was very disapointed.
I actually drove 2010 ML's in reverse order - I drove the gas version and was disappointed and started to walk away. Then I drove the BluTec and I was actually impressed! (Both had < 100 miles.)
I thought the diesel moved the 2 1/2 tons with more authority.

Later, after I got it home, I had second thoughts, probably the 1st & 2nd gear performance where the 7spd doesn't match the torque band.

I just came back from a 2800 mile trip and am really pleased (now have 6,000 miles). I got 29.6 mpg for the trip overall with 6 days on highways and 5 days puttering around in town. I was definitely NOT driving for economy - I was giving it a break-in workout. It was responsive in passing (shooting to 100 mph easily) and squirting into little gaps in traffic with appropriate & quick downshifts.

The coarseness off the line has decreased, and the 7spd seems to shift into second sooner and use the torque better. I am looking forward to 10,000 miles and more break-in.

Me - the I-6 devotee - I think I'm converted.

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