Looking for a solid MB Diesel. Any other models I should be looking at besides these?
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Looking for a solid MB Diesel. Any other models I should be looking at besides these?
Hello,
New to the forum, new to MB's, unless the transmission in my old Porsche 928* counts as a species of MB ownership.
I am looking for a diesel car. Based on my research, I am looking for one of the following:
1982-84 300D
1986-89 190D
1990-93 300D turbo
1995-97 E300
1998 or newer E300
I am hoping to spend less than 10-14K and get something really solid and low miles. Are there any other models I should be looking at?
Thanks in advance.
*Sadly, I don't own it anymore.
New to the forum, new to MB's, unless the transmission in my old Porsche 928* counts as a species of MB ownership.
I am looking for a diesel car. Based on my research, I am looking for one of the following:
1982-84 300D
1986-89 190D
1990-93 300D turbo
1995-97 E300
1998 or newer E300
I am hoping to spend less than 10-14K and get something really solid and low miles. Are there any other models I should be looking at?
Thanks in advance.
*Sadly, I don't own it anymore.
Last edited by ThaddeusMaximus; Oct 25, 2010 at 06:28 PM.
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I love my 99 E300. Here's a couple of mods I did:
-3" turbo back exhaust which eliminated the trap oxidizer
-Brabus muffler
-Speedtuning ECU flash, including EGR delete coding
You can also take off the trap oxidizer, hollow it out, and reinstall it to look stock.
-3" turbo back exhaust which eliminated the trap oxidizer
-Brabus muffler
-Speedtuning ECU flash, including EGR delete coding
You can also take off the trap oxidizer, hollow it out, and reinstall it to look stock.
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I hollowed my trap out about two years ago (just installed the 3" exhaust so the trap is gone now). I had to do this procedure because the element inside of the trap had come loose and was making an annoying rattling sound. I noticed no drop in MPG or power as a result of doing this procedure.
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I don't disable emission controls for whatever reason. A few years ago, I bought a Porsche 993 that had crossover pipes in place of a catalytic converter. I sourced one and re-installed it. Probably lost about 5 HP: big whoop.
I still have the crossover pipes, if anybody wants to buy them... I don't own that car anymore.
I still have the crossover pipes, if anybody wants to buy them... I don't own that car anymore.
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An EGR has a slight benefit in fuel economy due to reducing throttle parasitic losses. This is offset by the sludge formed in the intake, valves and injectors when the CCV oil vapor combines with soot in the exhaust and reduced combustion efficiency (flame front has to search for oxygen, further increasing soot, HC and CO emissions). This is all on gasser engines, an EGR has zero benefits on a diesel.
A cat has no benefit at all. It increases fuel consumption, adds considerable cost and masks poor tuning and/or bad engine design. Cats allow manufacturers to keep selling old junk instead of developing naturally clean engines. The Mustang, for example, has 5 cats to cover up how dirty it really is.
Same thing with Diesel particulate filters, it allows manufacturers to tune the engine dirtier so it will make more torque off the line. At the expense of a few $grand per vehicle, a major increase in fuel consumption to clean the filter and drastically reduced engine lifespan/reliability from the extreme heat.
A truely clean engine thats reliable and long-lived doesn't need anything but fresh air and mufflers (mufflers optional).
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Incorrect. Just because it runs doesn't mean its running well or continue to do so in the long-term. Think of it this way; smoking is fine for most people in the short term, maybe some coughing and headaches, its the long-term smokers that develop life-threatening diseases.
WVO is the same to engines. It burns very dirty, contaminates the engine oil and corrodes the fuel system. Short term it runs fine, but over time it will lose compression due to the non-burnable glycerin that makes up 10% of raw vegetable oil sticking the piston rings, coating the combustion chamber and polluting the oil. That means for every 21 gallon tank of WVO you run through the system, 2.1 gallons of that is trash.
Would you be willing to drink toilet water? Usually only 10% of it is actually contaminated! Come on, you'll save $0.89/gallon and you'll be recycling a waste product!
Instead of blowing money on an illegal "conversion" system, the only option is to buy a processor and convert the oil into biodiesel.
There used to be thousands, guess what happened to all of them? Yep, the engines kicked the bucket a decade earlier than the normally would have and the cars were sent to the junkyards.
WVO is the same to engines. It burns very dirty, contaminates the engine oil and corrodes the fuel system. Short term it runs fine, but over time it will lose compression due to the non-burnable glycerin that makes up 10% of raw vegetable oil sticking the piston rings, coating the combustion chamber and polluting the oil. That means for every 21 gallon tank of WVO you run through the system, 2.1 gallons of that is trash.
Would you be willing to drink toilet water? Usually only 10% of it is actually contaminated! Come on, you'll save $0.89/gallon and you'll be recycling a waste product!
Instead of blowing money on an illegal "conversion" system, the only option is to buy a processor and convert the oil into biodiesel.
I live in Los Angleles and there are HUNDREDS of them here.
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I regularly test my motor oil for impurities.
I will examine the combustion chamber for WVO coating and send you the pic.
You have me confused with that commercial product that is advertised all over diesel forums. My WVO is pre-heated and pumped through a centrifuge.
I was a "home-brewer" of biodiesel in the past. It was a labor-intensive process that required several days (and hours) to make ANY amount of BD.
The only thing easier is finding one of the thousands of stations that sell Biodiesel at the pump.
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Hello,
New to the forum, new to MB's, unless the transmission in my old Porsche 928* counts as a species of MB ownership.
I am looking for a diesel car. Based on my research, I am looking for one of the following:
1982-84 300D
1986-89 190D
1990-93 300D turbo
1995-97 E300
1998 or newer E300
I am hoping to spend less than 10-14K and get something really solid and low miles. Are there any other models I should be looking at?
Thanks in advance.
*Sadly, I don't own it anymore.
New to the forum, new to MB's, unless the transmission in my old Porsche 928* counts as a species of MB ownership.
I am looking for a diesel car. Based on my research, I am looking for one of the following:
1982-84 300D
1986-89 190D
1990-93 300D turbo
1995-97 E300
1998 or newer E300
I am hoping to spend less than 10-14K and get something really solid and low miles. Are there any other models I should be looking at?
Thanks in advance.
*Sadly, I don't own it anymore.
What did you end up buying?
